What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander

[Erica Mena]

Ah ok. Got it

[Frood]

How do numbers stack up for hospitalizations and intensive care? The unvaccinated are an expensive burden.

Are the vaccinated who catch COVID and require hospitalization an expensive burden?

If the jab doesn't stop infection or transmission, it doesn't make a difference to hospitalisation rates.

Booooing .. Duh  :sdfjh(2):



Great lessening of symptoms in favor of vaxxed have lead to a 15-20 to 1 ratio of hospitalizations (unvaxxed vs. vaxxed)  on a per population ratio as demonstrated multiple times, everywhere in the world  .. sigh



Next, Double that number by 2 as average length of stay is double



You sillies are filling hospitals worldwide at those rates



Try to keep up  ... eyes and ears before typing fingers  is always a good plan  

That data doesn't play out in highly jabbed nations with the Delta but particularly the Omicron variant, where indications are that the unjabbed get less severe cases compared to the jabbed.



(I've avoided using the terms vaxxed and unvaxxed for clarity and truth in definitions)...

[Anonymous]

We know that this latest variant has no respect for immunity. It doesn't matter if it's through vaccination or through natural immunity like I have. People are catching it and spreading it. But, it's only the unvaccinated who are subjected to draconian restrictions. This is unfair and unjust.

How do numbers stack up for hospitalizations and intensive care? The unvaccinated are an expensive burden.

Are the vaccinated who catch COVID and require hospitalization an expensive burden?

I  interpret what IHJ is getting at as the numbers & there is 2 areas of them, both areas affecting cost



Cost Area 1. (quantity) - The ratio / population of unvax in hospitals is extreme (15 to 20  vs  1) Huge difference!!

(Comparison by numbers alone is greatly misleading as the unvaxxed make up only 10% of the population, thus only comparison by numbers / population are genuine to use as comparison)



and it doesn't end there for cost comparison

Cost Area 2 (cost / person). Severity and length of stay  - on average is far greater among unvaxxed  also .. meaning on average  unvaxxed patients have much longer stays & thus  cost more / patent in this 2nd area as well



So, yes  .. on per population basis they are costing us many times more than the vaxxed  - and for both reasons above .. a double whammy



And those vaxxed have a legitimate right to be extremely unhappy about paying many times their fair share in this area of overall health care costs .. not to mention delays of operations etc. obviously as a main result of the above ratio of patients



The sick irony of it all cost-wise -  is that the vaxxed are the ones with a right to bitch but mainly are quiet - whereas those causing the great majority of hospital cost (+ operations etc. being delayed) for everyone are the greatest and loudest bitchers



In areas where each pays their own way, it's fair cost-wise. Here where we all subsidize the holdouts, it's grossly  not  fair as to personal costs

Dang girl, you really study the hell out of this.

[cc]

How do numbers stack up for hospitalizations and intensive care? The unvaccinated are an expensive burden.

Are the vaccinated who catch COVID and require hospitalization an expensive burden?

If the jab doesn't stop infection or transmission, it doesn't make a difference to hospitalisation rates.

Booooing .. Duh  :sdfjh(2):



Great lessening of symptoms in favor of vaxxed have lead to a 15-20 to 1 ratio of hospitalizations (unvaxxed vs. vaxxed)  on a per population ratio as demonstrated multiple times, everywhere in the world  .. sigh



Next, Double that number by 2 as average length of stay is double



You sillies are filling hospitals worldwide at those rates



Try to keep up  ... eyes and ears before typing fingers  is always a good plan  

That data doesn't play out in highly jabbed nations with the Delta but particularly the Omicron variant, where indications are that the unjabbed get less severe cases compared to the jabbed.

You are either making that up or are a victim of very bad info  .. Have never heard that even on some very low level sites



Please cite & source your very bad (upside-down) info



I have cited BC Health info on this every day or 2 (also Ontario, Canada & UK & German data quite often) .. and it's extremely consistent (& Fauci-free)  ... 15 / 1 (minimum)  .. unvaxxed vs vaxxed hospitalized then double that for the double average stay time for uvaxxed  > all based on per population (usually per 100,000) comparisons

[Bricktop]

Dang girl, you really study the hell out of this.

Anecdotally speaking, it's my observation that women are far more concerned than men about the plague.



That's no criticism because given the differences between male and female, you would expect that kind of reaction.



Men seem to be focused on the morality and human rights, women on health and welfare. T'was ever thus.



This leads to a rather laissez-faire approach by men who may think that they are invulnerable, and even if they catch the virus they can deal with it.



Women, on the other hand, are more paranoid and protective and fear infection will be catastrophic for them, and of course their children.



Just as in many other social issues, the chasm between genders is stark and destructive.

[Anonymous]

Dang girl, you really study the hell out of this.

Anecdotally speaking, it's my observation that women are far more concerned than men about the plague.



That's no criticism because given the differences between male and female, you would expect that kind of reaction.



Men seem to be focused on the morality and human rights, women on health and welfare. T'was ever thus.



This leads to a rather laissez-faire approach by men who may think that they are invulnerable, and even if they catch the virus they can deal with it.



Women, on the other hand, are more paranoid and protective and fear infection will be catastrophic for them, and of course their children.



Just as in many other social issues, the chasm between genders is stark and destructive.

There could be something to that. The only lady aint paranoid, but she is more cautious than I am about catching it. And she is eleven and a ahlf years younger than me.

[cc]

Cradle Robber!!



 ac_smile

[Thiel]

We know that this latest variant has no respect for immunity. It doesn't matter if it's through vaccination or through natural immunity like I have. People are catching it and spreading it. But, it's only the unvaccinated who are subjected to draconian restrictions. This is unfair and unjust.

I think I can now proclaim who my new favourite poster is. It's a discriminatory double standard.

[Anonymous]

We know that this latest variant has no respect for immunity. It doesn't matter if it's through vaccination or through natural immunity like I have. People are catching it and spreading it. But, it's only the unvaccinated who are subjected to draconian restrictions. This is unfair and unjust.

I think I can now proclaim who my new favourite poster is. It's a discriminatory double standard.

Thank you sir. Between the coronavirus and climate change excuses liberty is being eroded. I will remain steadfast in my defense of it.

[Frood]

[Bricktop]

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR WEEKS!!!



 

[Anonymous]

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR WEEKS!!!



 

You've been saying freedoms are under attack?

[Frood]

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR WEEKS!!!



 

I think I love you.... in a Freud way (not a Pantywaste or Dinky Dianna way).... woah, tiger!  ac_razz

[Bricktop]

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR WEEKS!!!



 

You've been saying freedoms are under attack?

AAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!

[Blazor]

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR WEEKS!!!



 

You've been saying freedoms are under attack?

AAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!

 



Welcome to the club.



Love you too btw, its not just Dinky.... in a non homo way.