Quote from: Bricktop post_id=442550 time=1646516526 user_id=1560
The irony out of all this is that Putin will achieve exactly the opposite of what he would have hoped.
NATO will strengthen their forces, Russia will never be trusted again and will remain encircled by increasingly menacing NATO first strike capabilities.
Russia will have gained nothing.
Someone posted that the German chancellor has said that NATO membership is off the table for Ukraine despite the American viec president saying before all of this that it should be fast tracked.