Union scum....

[Anonymous]

Oh honey, they want you to think that.  They have increased certain targeted funding or put more money into increases to insurance costs, etc.  Not into classrooms.

Ya know RW, this is really none of our biz. OL and I do NOT live in BC. This fight with teachers is the concern of BC residents alone. However, what happens in other provinces influences what happens in my own.

In recent years, Alberta's fiscal stance has shifted from large surpluses to deficits, and a large

part of the blame appears to be due to rising public sector salaries. Since 2000, the province's

public sector wage bill has shot up by 119 percent — almost double the rate of growth in the

rest of Canada. Wages, previously roughly at par with the rest of the country, are now higher

(in many cases very substantially) across all public sector categories, including health care,

social services, education and government, consuming 95 percent of the increase in

provincial revenues over the past decade. At the same time, the number of public sector

employees has grown faster than the overall population; it is difficult to attribute this sharp

uptick to a rise in productivity, or the need to compete with private industry for skilled workers.

This paper breaks down the increases in every category, arguing that if the provincial

government is looking to trim expenditures, public sector salaries are a good place to start.

The authors make their case using detailed Statistics Canada data, throwing down the

gauntlet to defenders of the status quo and challenging them to justify these disparate

increases.

[RW]

I don't know what you mean this is none of our biz.  It's a public matter Shen :)



I can speak best to the BC system because I know it well and I'd rather stay focused on this as an education/teacher debate.

[Anonymous]

I don't know what you mean this is none of our biz.  It's a public matter Shen :)

For BCer's like you it is. Crimea is a public matter for Ukrainians and Russians. Albertans and Saskabushers should stay out of it.

[RW]

Then I'd have no one to debate with!

[Anonymous]

Then I'd have no one to debate with!

Well, I am not really in a feisty mood today because it's above zero in the Czuk. Well, I wasn't until I read old evs posts on VF. :x

[RW]

I'm still waiting for Munday to dig up some FACT.  Slogging through all this conjecture is boring me.

[Anonymous]

I'm still waiting for Munday to dig up some FACT.  Slogging through all this conjecture is boring me.

I have confidence that handsome will be here soon and then you'll be sorry.

[RW]

I highly doubt that :)

[Obvious Li]

I'm still waiting for Munday to dig up some FACT.  Slogging through all this conjecture is boring me.

we don't debate....i present you with facts and you spew out a litany of socialist bullshit......i'm truly happy that your kids can find the pacific ocean on a map...maybe they can be a manager at macdonalds some day.........your solution to the fact that we spend 3/4 of our educational budgets on salaries and benefits means we just need more money to resolve the issue borders on insanity.....there is plenty of money in the system ...it just needs to be properly allocated.....i stand by my position that we graduate 40% stupid (and lazy) kids.....i am fine with this....as long as we have a population of uneducated dolts and morons it makes it easier for the 1% like me.......it is a shame that we waste precious dollars operating a teenage daycare though........there will always be enough foreign grads to fill the positions in engineering and science we need.....if i had my way they would have to pass a university entrance  exam (like the USA) and pay full pop for their degree......why i should pay for your kids to waste time in university when you won't baffles me.....in any case i could write your response in advance....but i should let you at least reflect on the error of your thinking

[RW]

"Hi my name is Munday.  I have my finger on the state of the BC education system from my grain elevator in Dog River." Hehe



You haven't actually presented any facts Munday - just conjecture.  I think it's really great that you have an opinion on this matter and a bunch of ad hom bullshit but that's all you've got.



I provide links to reputable sources on where the Canadian education system ranks - you say grads can't find oceans or name the province they live in.



Now, I am well versed on school board operations and capital budgets, the state of our education system, current changes to curriculum (and who actually sets curriculum), mandated learning outcomes, technology implementation, course offerings including trades focuses for post secondary credit, graduation and literacy rates, socio-economic effects on educational performance, salaries, class size and composition, teacher workload and hours, government funding including cost off loads, school closures, enrolment decline, alternate and distance education, community support, grant writing and fundraising, issues with bargaining, replacement of boards by government, etc.  



I understand that you just want to take a dump down the throats of public sector teachers Munday, but if there is any one else who has questions or would like to have a discussion based on current realities, I'm available for knowledgable comment.

[Anonymous]

Ya see SRW, I told you, you'd be sorry.

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[RW]

LOL!



All I can say is if Munday is a product of an older education system, I can see why they've changed it.

[Anonymous]

LOL!



All I can say is if Munday is a product of an older education system, I can see why they've changed it.

I went to a private school in China and the public schools in Canada. What I can tell you is that the grade 3 math in China is the same as grade 6 math in Alberta.

[Odinson]

LOL!



All I can say is if Munday is a product of an older education system, I can see why they've changed it.

I went to a private school in China and the public schools in Canada. What I can tell you is that the grade 3 math in China is the same as grade 6 math in Alberta.

Could you describe whats in the grade 6 math in Alberta?

[Anonymous]

LOL!



All I can say is if Munday is a product of an older education system, I can see why they've changed it.

I went to a private school in China and the public schools in Canada. What I can tell you is that the grade 3 math in China is the same as grade 6 math in Alberta.

Could you describe whats in the grade 6 math in Alberta?

I remember multiplication and division of decimals, ratio tables, finding missing angles and side lengths in triangles and quadrilaterals, line plots and bar graphs.