Quote from: Lokmar post_id=463236 time=1657330091 user_id=3351Quote from: Zetsu post_id=463188 time=1657312859 user_id=61
This is how I see it, if everyone has guns, criminals will have access to them too, which created this problem in the first place and the paradox/vicious cycle will continue on, same thing with inflation and increasing min wage.
People getting stabbed is possible, but how can you even dare compare it to a firearm when you can't even out run a gunman.
Usually it takes 2 or more factors to create a problem. In the old days I believe it's b/c ppl didn't have phone cams, severe decaying poverty, internet news or social media, diversity conflict, intense political/cultural competition. Life was so much more simple back then, even if people had guns, but now if more and more people are becoming mentally unstable, guns are only making things 10x worst, it's just nothing but a catalyst with a means to kill and destroy.
Everyone who is free should have access to guns. Anyone who murders should be publicly executed. A lot of people should die in America every year. Only problem is, we need to make sure the right people are killed.
On tonight's news, they had a story about an old man who was beaten and robbed in his bodega. He managed to grab a knife and stabbed his attacker, killing him. New York has charged him with murder.https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york-city-bodega-worker-charged-murder-allegedly-seen-video-stabbing-ex-con-dispute"> https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york-cit ... on-dispute">https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york-city-bodega-worker-charged-murder-allegedly-seen-video-stabbing-ex-con-dispute
Just like in the UK, if you defend yourself with any weapon, you WILL be charged. The best way to stay alive is to have a gun to shoot these assholes BEFORE they beat you. In Europe, mass murders are committed with vehicles. Cant outrun them either.
All of this is moot because unlike the rest of the world, America has a 2nd Amendment for overthrowing the government when necessary. No number of dead kids changes that.
I do agree with ya on one thing that we both hate, which is criminal rights. But aside from that I duno why do you guys are so concerned your government will turn 180 degrees on their own people and want to destroy them just for that. Chances are if a civil war breaks out, I doubt it'll end well for people against the US military that have over 15 years of experience fighting terrorists and a century of modern combat knowledge and training. Not to mention as long as you use smartphones, you're screwed to begin with as the government already has all your data and everything else that's in it, and can track every where you go and everything you say.