Edmonton Radio Station Asks If Rape Victims Partly Responsib

[Anonymous]

I meant you Munday.



Once again, and I will type it slowly so you understand, it...is...the...lack...of...positive...male...

role...modelling...that...is...at...the...heart...of...this...issue.  If you want to lay blame, gather up your brethren specifically all the dead beats, women beaters/haters, chauvinists, mysoginists, peepers, sexual conquesters, porn watchers, "studs", etc and give THEM shit for setting bad examples for their boys.



In terms of education, the system has identified the need for further male supports including relationship education.  So before you sit there shitting on the education system, learn how it's changing to address these issues.

I agree with ALL of the things that Obvious Li says about the public education system..



Gangs, bullying, brand name and celebrity worship are among the reasons we would never send our children to the public schools.

thanks Fash.....as you are already aware,  i am always right...you are smart spending the extra to send your kids to private schools.....public schools are a progressive cesspool for the unwashed..... :ugeek:

Thanks for correcting my error Obvious Li.

 ;)

Private school education is a worthwhile investment in my children's future.

[Obvious Li]

I meant you Munday.



Once again, and I will type it slowly so you understand, it...is...the...lack...of...positive...male...

role...modelling...that...is...at...the...heart...of...this...issue.  If you want to lay blame, gather up your brethren specifically all the dead beats, women beaters/haters, chauvinists, mysoginists, peepers, sexual conquesters, porn watchers, "studs", etc and give THEM shit for setting bad examples for their boys.



In terms of education, the system has identified the need for further male supports including relationship education.  So before you sit there shitting on the education system, learn how it's changing to address these issues.

RW..i appreciate your consideration.......however, for someone so tall i'm never sure how  the point completely goes over your head.....why in gods name would we want the educational system that fucked up society and turned males into metro-sexual eunuchs or gang bangers to now begin teaching "relationship education" to them.....the reason we have all those categories of males you listed above is directly related to 40 years of progressive education.......YOU and by this i mean YOU would have been a star pupil in the hitler youth.....YOU like the koolaid so much you just keep drinking more.....now STFU

[Anonymous]

I meant you Munday.



Once again, and I will type it slowly so you understand, it...is...the...lack...of...positive...male...

role...modelling...that...is...at...the...heart...of...this...issue.  If you want to lay blame, gather up your brethren specifically all the dead beats, women beaters/haters, chauvinists, mysoginists, peepers, sexual conquesters, porn watchers, "studs", etc and give THEM shit for setting bad examples for their boys.



In terms of education, the system has identified the need for further male supports including relationship education.  So before you sit there shitting on the education system, learn how it's changing to address these issues.

RW..i appreciate your consideration.......however, for someone so tall i'm never sure how  the point completely goes over your head.....why in gods name would we want the educational system that fucked up society and turned males into metro-sexual eunuchs or gang bangers to now begin teaching "relationship education" to them.....the reason we have all those categories of males you listed above is directly related to 40 years of progressive education.......YOU and by this i mean YOU would have been a star pupil in the hitler youth.....YOU like the koolaid so much you just keep drinking more.....now STFU

The government can reform the public school system all they want and I will have little faith in it..



In my children's school the parents concerns are taken very seriously..



Parents don't have the same control in the public schools.

[Obvious Li]

I meant you Munday.



Once again, and I will type it slowly so you understand, it...is...the...lack...of...positive...male...

role...modelling...that...is...at...the...heart...of...this...issue.  If you want to lay blame, gather up your brethren specifically all the dead beats, women beaters/haters, chauvinists, mysoginists, peepers, sexual conquesters, porn watchers, "studs", etc and give THEM shit for setting bad examples for their boys.



In terms of education, the system has identified the need for further male supports including relationship education.  So before you sit there shitting on the education system, learn how it's changing to address these issues.

RW..i appreciate your consideration.......however, for someone so tall i'm never sure how  the point completely goes over your head.....why in gods name would we want the educational system that fucked up society and turned males into metro-sexual eunuchs or gang bangers to now begin teaching "relationship education" to them.....the reason we have all those categories of males you listed above is directly related to 40 years of progressive education.......YOU and by this i mean YOU would have been a star pupil in the hitler youth.....YOU like the koolaid so much you just keep drinking more.....now STFU

The government can reform the public school system all they want and I will have little faith in it..



In my children's school the parents concerns are taken very seriously..



Parents don't have the same control in the public schools.

parents have zero control in the public schools.....only teachers unions decide what is right and good for your children....no on else counts.... :ugeek:

[RW]

Parents absolutely have control in public education.  In fact, public Ed is REQUIRED to consult on certain issues like policy development, etc. Parent reps are mandated as part of School Planning Councils and have groups like PTAs, etc.  Seriously Munday, why do you insist on talking about something you obviousli know sweet fuck all about?



Fash, in my kids' public school, things are taken very seriously as well.  The thing with private schools is they don't deal with socio-economic issues in their student base to the same degree.  You can do a lot more when you aren't dealing with kids with special needs or kids from poorer backgrounds.

[Obvious Li]

Parents absolutely have control in public education.  In fact, public Ed is REQUIRED to consult on certain issues like policy development, etc. Parent reps are mandated as part of School Planning Councils and have groups like PTAs, etc.  Seriously Munday, why do you insist on talking about something you obviousli know sweet fuck all about?



Fash, in my kids' public school, things are taken very seriously as well.  The thing with private schools is they don't deal with socio-economic issues in their student base to the same degree.  You can do a lot more when you aren't dealing with kids with special needs or kids from poorer backgrounds.

jesus you are thick.......if you are seriously trying to tell us some immigrant mother or high school drop out has the cohjones to stand up to a militant fanatical organization like the Teachers union at some meeting then you are a twirlybrained fucked in the head spammer nutjob.....furthermore who made the decision that my normal children need to be in class with a bunch of dibbleys and mentally disturbed rejects...school is not a babysitting service..it is meant to be a place of higher learning....i want my taxes to go to teaching my children to the highest standards......not the lowest common denominator set by a class full of autistics...i can tell you who made the decision..it was your progressive sisters and brothers in the teachers union who saw it as a great way to increase members and collect more union dues....fuck the kids lets just collect more dues and fund the NDP.

[RW]

Oh God you are a tard!



1. Government mandates that all students have the right to access education.  That's federal btw and the NDP has never been in power federally.  So much for that misplaced blame.



2. Parent Advisory Councils, which is what we have here, don't generally meet with teachers.  They generally work with administration.  School Planning Councils are head by administration.  Policy development, budgeting, etc is done on a school board level.  The school board is elected as part of municipal governance.



3. I had dinner with a landed immigrant who ripped a strip off our school board trustees the other night and it's not the first time she's done it.  So yeah, why not?  I don't know about you, but I work with my teacher to ensure my kids are getting the best possible education.  We are not at odds.



4.  Classes aren't full of autistics either btw.  There is actually a legislated limit to how many kids with learning disabilities can be in class.



Again Munday, it's all good and well to spout off about unions and the NDP, but you have no idea WTF you are talking about.  I know this because I do.  If you want evidence of this, I ask those who currently have a child in the Canadian education system to raise his/her hand.



*raises hand*

[Obvious Li]

Oh God you are a tard!



1. Government mandates that all students have the right to access education.  That's federal btw and the NDP has never been in power federally.  So much for that misplaced blame.



2. Parent Advisory Councils, which is what we have here, don't generally meet with teachers.  They generally work with administration.  School Planning Councils are head by administration.  Policy development, budgeting, etc is done on a school board level.  The school board is elected as part of municipal governance.



3. I had dinner with a landed immigrant who ripped a strip off our school board trustees the other night and it's not the first time she's done it.  So yeah, why not?  I don't know about you, but I work with my teacher to ensure my kids are getting the best possible education.  We are not at odds.



4.  Classes aren't full of autistics either btw.  There is actually a legislated limit to how many kids with learning disabilities can be in class.



Again Munday, it's all good and well to spout off about unions and the NDP, but you have no idea WTF you are talking about.  I know this because I do.  If you want evidence of this, I ask those who currently have a child in the Canadian education system to raise his/her hand.



*raises hand*

i am pleased to hear you have kids in the public school system...the way the TFW program is going the fast food and hospitality industries are going to need lots of low skilled entry level bodies......we can thank the public school system in canada for a steady supply to fill the void...... :geek:

[Anonymous]

i am pleased to hear you have kids in the public school system...the way the TFW program is going the fast food and hospitality industries are going to need lots of low skilled entry level bodies......we can thank the public school system in canada for a steady supply to fill the void...... :geek:

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[RW]

Digs about my kids are a lame attempt to hide the fact that you just got your ass handed to you.

[Obvious Li]

Digs about my kids are a lame attempt to hide the fact that you just got your ass handed to you.

lol..on my worst day....totally distracted...i am soooo beyond your reach........like i said your kids will be welcome to work as a highly skilled food server or in house keeping at any of the local hospitality establishments....nothing personal about your children, who i suspect are little darlings, just giving you a heads up so you won't be disappointed.....truthfully, i am not all that upset with the quality of public school grads....i realized long ago i needed a steady supply of dolts to do the shit jobs at my work sites that no one else would do.....it is getting easier and easier to find them every year...for this i send a big THANK YOU to the local teachers union where ever i have a project ongoing......cheers toots

[Anonymous]

Digs about my kids are a lame attempt to hide the fact that you just got your ass handed to you.

I am terribly sorry Real Woman if words were misinterpreted..



I would never insult your lovely children..



There are many reasons why we would never subject my children to the public school system..



Here are a few of them..



1. God's word is taught



2. The school shares our values



3.  Safety



4.  Academic achievement



5.  Teachers love and fear the Lord



6.  Individual attention



7.  Success after graduation



8.  Positive peer pressure

[Chickenfeets]

While I respect the reasons you list, Fash, seems to me they ill prepare your children for what they'll encounter outside the classroom walls.



In the "real" world, God's word is not often heard and few there are that love and fear the Lord (certainly not in as open a fashion as can be that of those who mock the Lord). Perhaps a parallel can be made here to Daniel in the lion's den; the mettle of those who fight for their beliefs is tested in the arena, not under a nun's skirts.



Private education can sometimes discourage children from meeting the world as it is--including its uglier and more difficult aspects--earlier rather than later. It mollycoddles them, to some extent.



On the other hand, I have no doubt that teaching and curriculum standards are likely higher in private schools. As to the teaching of values--spiritual or otherwise--ought this not to fall under the purview of parents?

[Anonymous]

While I respect the reasons you list, Fash, seems to me they ill prepare your children for what they'll encounter outside the classroom walls.



In the "real" world, God's word is not often heard and few there are that love and fear the Lord (certainly not in as open a fashion as can be that of those who mock the Lord). Perhaps a parallel can be made here to Daniel in the lion's den; the mettle of those who fight for their beliefs is tested in the arena, not under a nun's skirts.



Private education can sometimes discourage children from meeting the world as it is--including its uglier and more difficult aspects--earlier rather than later. It mollycoddles them, to some extent.



On the other hand, I have no doubt that teaching and curriculum standards are likely higher in private schools. As to the teaching of values--spiritual or otherwise--ought this not to fall under the purview of parents?

I'm not going to get into the religious shit, but I'm a fan of private schools. You are saying they are not preparing kids for the real world, but I would say the opposite is true. Let's look at the success of people from both a decade after graduation. I'm putting my money on the ones that went to private schools. Nobody is going to pay all that $$ for piss poor results.



BTW, I'm a product of the public school system myself.



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I just noticed this;

I have no doubt that teaching and curriculum standards are likely higher in private schools

[RW]

Fash, you did not insult my kids in the least.  I was talking to Munday.



I respect your educational decision and before my kids started, they were slated to go to Catholic school as I did.  Then I changed my mind.



Public school does not roll out a bunch of dolts as Munday would have you believe not is it some lawless free for all of immorality as I get the impression you believe.  The values taught are similar with a profound difference.  Public school is about inclusion where religious schools are about exclusion.  It is more important to me to have my children interact with children who aren't exactly like them.  It teaches them about diversity and acceptance.  And I absolutely will not tolerate my children judging people for being homosexual or from different religious backgrounds.  No way.



Chicken, honestly, there isn't a huge difference in curriculum standards between schools.  They ultimately all teach to provincial exams and for post secondary entrance.  The difference is you generally have kids coming from more affluent backgrounds who have educated parents which is a determining factor in educational success of children.  They tend to be populated by kids who do not have learning disabilities or behavioural issues, and they have smaller class sizes.  It would be nice if the public school system had that luxury but it doesn't.  It can't turn kids away.



Now Munday, I highly doubt the millions of kids who come out if the public school system are all dumbasses who will never amount to more than physical labour.  I can call on my private school graduating class and not find a huge pool of success.  A few of the girls had children very young out of wedlock because no sexual education was taught.  When I think about it, most of us have kids.  The guys have oil patch jobs or work in positions I would consider average.  One guy is currently in jail doing 11 years for kidnapping and sodomizing a woman with a liquor bottle.  So much for religious teachings.



You can say what you want Mun, but the fact is you don't know WTF you are talking about.  Reality exists outside your opinion.



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