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DKG

On Monday morning, acting Justice Juan Merchan held Donald Trump in contempt, claiming he violated his gag order for the 10th time, according to live updates from the New York courthouse. Merchan warned the former president that if he violates the order in the future, the judge will consider jail time.

DKG

Bernie Sanders announced he is seeking reelection to the senate for the fourth time.
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A new Oklahoma law requires illegal aliens to leave the state. Governor Kevin Stitt happily signed it — but has no plans to enforce it.

Despite an unrelenting invasion for over three years, red states have been slow to strengthen laws against illegal immigration. Some of it might be due to fear of judicial interference. Much of it, however, is the result of a complicated relationship between most Republican special interests and cheap labor.

So it was a pleasant surprise when the Oklahoma legislature swiftly passed the toughest anti-illegal-immigration law in the nation — one that fully criminalizes illegal presence within the state and gives the invaders 72 hours to leave. Unfortunately, Governor Kevin Stitt's plans for the law show why it faced so little opposition.

HB 4156 requires every illegal alien to leave. Stitt made a mockery of the law the minute he signed it.

Stitt last week signed House Bill 4156, making the Sooner State the first in the nation to outlaw residency without first obtaining legal admission to the country. The first offense, if caught in the state illegally, is a misdemeanor, punishable by up to a year in jail and a $500 fine. Subsequent offenses are considered felonies punishable by up to two years in prison and a $1,000 fine. In both cases, the offender must leave the state within 72 hours of release from jail or prison and is not allowed to return.

The law passed without a single Republican dissent in either chamber. Republicans control the House 81-20 and the Senate 40-8.

If enforced, the law would compel offenders to leave the state whether or not the individual was arrested for committing another crime. It's model legislation for other red states. The trouble is with the expectation of enforcement.

Kevin Stitt has long been a proponent of illegal aliens, even as he criticizes Biden for his open-border policies. As recently as last legislative session, Stitt and his allies were pushing for driver's licenses for illegal aliens. So it came as something of a shock when Stitt signed HB 4156.

Or maybe not. At the very moment he signed the law, Stitt announced a task force to "explore opportunities for those here contributing to our communities and economy."


The executive order establishing the task force stipulates, "House Bill 4156 is not aimed at the honest, hardworking Hispanic or other international migrant populations here chasing the American dream, enhancing our communities, economies, and way of life, and otherwise significantly contributing to Oklahoma's tapestry."

You might suppose Stitt is referring only to legal immigrants because he artfully avoids the adjective "illegal" throughout the order. But on closer inspection, the order calls for the task force to recommend ways "for immigrants here ... to secure work permits, work visas, or similar documentation permitting them to remain for established timeframes without separation from their families or livelihood."

Suffice to say, legal immigrants don't need visas and work permits because they already have them.

Stitt's executive order would have the task force find ways to provide essentially every major industry in Oklahoma with cheap labor from the illegal alien population.


It would be one thing if HB 4156 tacked on the crime of illegal residency only for people arrested for other crimes. Stitt could harmonize enforcement of that law with a parallel effort to promote non-criminal aliens.

But that isn't what the law says. HB 4156 requires every illegal alien to leave. Stitt made a mockery of the law the minute he signed it.

Stitt is a perfect example of the lawlessness of certain Republican politicians who speak one way about the border invasion to inveigh against Biden while they act another way to protect cheap labor. They want an endless supply of illegal workers from the Third World and are willing to ignore laws while promoting every straw-man Democrat talking point about their "honest" contributions to our way of life (even though every one of them breaks the law and usually steals identities).

From now until Election Day, you will hear every Republican governor condemn Biden's immigration policies. But just know that many of them privately root for the success of those policies while denouncing them as a cynical campaign ploy.
https://www.theblaze.com/columns/opinion/red-state-governor-talks-tough-on-immigration-saves-cheap-labor?utm_source=theblaze-dailyAM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%20AM%20Premium%20Test%202024-05-07&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20AM&tpcc=email-premiumtest

Many elected Republicans secretly support Biden's open border policy.


Garraty_47

Quote from: DKG on May 07, 2024, 10:24:38 AMBernie Sanders announced he is seeking reelection to the senate for the fourth time.

Now that his neoliberal mask is all the way off I reckon it's time to really cash in all the selling out he's been doing. I expect at least another book, a lot of fundraising emails, and a big ol' AIPAC check or two.

Then like all the other democrats there will be a shower of "speaking fees" and such once he actually does completely fuck off from government.

I'll give him this much benefit of a doubt though:
He won't even come close to matching Pelosi's insider trading haul.

Thiel

Quote from: Garraty_47 on May 07, 2024, 03:55:33 PMNow that his neoliberal mask is all the way off I reckon it's time to really cash in all the selling out he's been doing. I expect at least another book, a lot of fundraising emails, and a big ol' AIPAC check or two.

Then like all the other democrats there will be a shower of "speaking fees" and such once he actually does completely fuck off from government.

I'll give him this much benefit of a doubt though:
He won't even come close to matching Pelosi's insider trading haul.
It amazed me in 2016 how he was able to con so many young people into believing an old rich man who keeps getting richer not only understood people who are struggling, but had their backs.

Bernie Sanders is as phony as they get in Washington and that is saying something.
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Garraty_47

Quote from: Thiel on May 07, 2024, 05:25:05 PMIt amazed me in 2016 how he was able to con so many young people into believing an old rich man who keeps getting richer not only understood people who are struggling, but had their backs.

Bernie Sanders is as phony as they get in Washington and that is saying something.

It <ahem> wasn't just young people (I have the tshirts to prove it) in 2016 and he actually put on a master class in being performative. Not taking corporate donations, staying on message with M4A etc., and even though he never went for the throat just the fact that he was willing to run against Hillary went a long way toward giving people a sense of hope that the duopoly could be beaten.

Then of course he abandoned the movement that had grown around his messaging, bent the knee to Hillary and the DNC, turned his "base" into a resource to be extracted by the democrats, and became as useless as the rest of 'em in D.C.

But at first the energy and the momentum were real and rallied around the issues themselves; Bernie was just the only guy in mainstream politics to be making those kinds of noises. Corporate media never stops pushing the idea that voters must choose between red shit or blue shit and here's a guy on team blue saying all the right things; of course he was going to get traction in a revolution-minded political cycle.

It's the people who still tried/try to put him on a pedestal after he utterly caved to the DNC who are deluded and cultish.

Lokmar

Quote from: Garraty_47 on May 08, 2024, 09:58:23 AMIt <ahem> wasn't just young people (I have the tshirts to prove it) in 2016 and he actually put on a master class in being performative. Not taking corporate donations, staying on message with M4A etc., and even though he never went for the throat just the fact that he was willing to run against Hillary went a long way toward giving people a sense of hope that the duopoly could be beaten.

Then of course he abandoned the movement that had grown around his messaging, bent the knee to Hillary and the DNC, turned his "base" into a resource to be extracted by the democrats, and became as useless as the rest of 'em in D.C.

But at first the energy and the momentum were real and rallied around the issues themselves; Bernie was just the only guy in mainstream politics to be making those kinds of noises. Corporate media never stops pushing the idea that voters must choose between red shit or blue shit and here's a guy on team blue saying all the right things; of course he was going to get traction in a revolution-minded political cycle.

It's the people who still tried/try to put him on a pedestal after he utterly caved to the DNC who are deluded and cultish.

democRATs got played twice by bernie the loon. The phony with that asshole owning 3 houses while promoting his "eat the rich" bullshit was nauseating. He'd do it a third time if given the opportunity.

Oerdin

Why specialists want to destroy western civilization and Christianity.  A review of historical documents written by self declared socialists including how they plan to accomplish it.  It is literally everything the left pushes to thos day.

https://youtu.be/B5fq2j6Z9ro?si=F5d2ObzID42Xwh0y
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Oerdin

Facts Muslims don't want to hear.  BTW the Islamic world practiced the slave trade for 14 centuries and enslaved 20-25 times as many Africans.  They also attacked, conquered or tried to conquer every non-muslom society, and enslave them.

https://youtu.be/95DbWV7wnxE?si=ZoalFbs4LMzUFVYL

Thiel

Both RFK Jr and Donald Trump will be attending the Libertarian National Convention later this month. Kennedy challenged Trump to a debate at the convention.
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Lokmar

Quote from: Oerdin on May 08, 2024, 02:40:52 PMFacts Muslims don't want to hear.  BTW the Islamic world practiced the slave trade for 14 centuries and enslaved 20-25 times as many Africans.  They also attacked, conquered or tried to conquer every non-muslom society, and enslave them.

https://youtu.be/95DbWV7wnxE?si=ZoalFbs4LMzUFVYL

Them fukin dune coons carted off entire towns of white peepoe! FACT!

DKG

Quote from: Lokmar on May 08, 2024, 10:24:08 AMdemocRATs got played twice by bernie the loon. The phony with that asshole owning 3 houses while promoting his "eat the rich" bullshit was nauseating. He'd do it a third time if given the opportunity.
He is as hypocritical as any other Dem.
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Thiel

It doesn't matter whether you hate or love Donald Trump. What's being done to the former president by our government should disturb every single American.

It has been revealed that FBI agents placed cover sheets onto allegedly classified documents found during its raid of Mar-a-Lago in order to make the photo they took of the documents far scarier.

The cover sheets indicated the highest levels of secrecy and without question, the media then fell right in line and used the doctored evidence to slam Trump.
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Garraty_47

Quote from: DKG on May 09, 2024, 11:01:24 AMHe is as hypocritical as any other Dem.

Love Sabby Sabs... she sums up Bernie pretty well here: