EV's, Reliable Power, et al

[Oerdin]

This is the type of retarded shit you get 2hen you mix an ideology with something which needs to be ideology free.  Idiots are pushing the military to go 100% electric with it's vehicle fleet.  



"Sir, our 65 ton tank only gets 50 miles per charge, it takes eight hours to recharge it, and there are no electric power lines out here in BFE!"



"Bring in diesel generators, PVT!"



"Sir, that will take twice as much fuel as just fueling our original diesel powered tanks to begin with!"



Just fucking retarded.



https://www.foxnews.com/media/granholm-ev-military-puts-electric-tanks-green-agenda-before-national-security-critics">https://www.foxnews.com/media/granholm- ... ty-critics">https://www.foxnews.com/media/granholm-ev-military-puts-electric-tanks-green-agenda-before-national-security-critics

[Herman]

This is the type of retarded shit you get 2hen you mix an ideology with something which needs to be ideology free.  Idiots are pushing the military to go 100% electric with it's vehicle fleet.  



"Sir, our 65 ton tank only gets 50 miles per charge, it takes eight hours to recharge it, and there are no electric power lines out here in BFE!"



"Bring in diesel generators, PVT!"



"Sir, that will take twice as much fuel as just fueling our original diesel powered tanks to begin with!"



Just fucking retarded.



https://www.foxnews.com/media/granholm-ev-military-puts-electric-tanks-green-agenda-before-national-security-critics">https://www.foxnews.com/media/granholm- ... ty-critics">https://www.foxnews.com/media/granholm-ev-military-puts-electric-tanks-green-agenda-before-national-security-critics

China encourages the entire US military to go electric.

[Oerdin]

Gavin Newscum, the self styles radical leftist dictator of California wants to outlaw all existing freight trains.  No all electric trains currently exist because of the extreme amount of electricity needed to power trains with dozens and dozens of loaded freight cars.  These idiots just pass mandates without even asking industry or engineers if their pie in the sky pipe dreams are even doable much less economically feasible.  



We already have a shortage of big rigs because Newacum demands only brand new ultra low emissions big rigs be used in the state.  The problem is no one wants to spend $800,000 on the fancy new big rigs because Newscum had already said he will outlaw even those in a few years demanding only electric big rigs.  No existing big rigs can do long haul trucking due to batteries being uneconomic and taking to long to recharge to make them feasible for long haul trucking.  Not that Newscum has ever cared about reality or costs.



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-takes-aim-freight-train-emissions-bans-non-electric-train-engines.amp">https://www.foxnews.com/politics/califo ... ngines.amp">https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-takes-aim-freight-train-emissions-bans-non-electric-train-engines.amp

[Lokmar]

This is the type of retarded shit you get 2hen you mix an ideology with something which needs to be ideology free.  Idiots are pushing the military to go 100% electric with it's vehicle fleet.  



"Sir, our 65 ton tank only gets 50 miles per charge, it takes eight hours to recharge it, and there are no electric power lines out here in BFE!"



"Bring in diesel generators, PVT!"



"Sir, that will take twice as much fuel as just fueling our original diesel powered tanks to begin with!"



Just fucking retarded.



https://www.foxnews.com/media/granholm-ev-military-puts-electric-tanks-green-agenda-before-national-security-critics">https://www.foxnews.com/media/granholm- ... ty-critics">https://www.foxnews.com/media/granholm-ev-military-puts-electric-tanks-green-agenda-before-national-security-critics

People have no concept of power generation, just like they dont have a concept of what a trillion dollars is. Everyone I talk to who isnt in a similar field as me, their eyes glass over when I tell them a quick charger requires 31KW per port to run. On a 200a home, the service is rated for 80% use. That means you have 160 amps of service times 240vac which equals about 38.5K. You damn near need 100% of all the electricity going into a home to fast charge a fucking car. Using single phase home shit, the meter would be rolling over like the fukin national debt clock while your ass sits in the dark without any A/C!!!!!  

[DKG]

This is the type of retarded shit you get 2hen you mix an ideology with something which needs to be ideology free.  Idiots are pushing the military to go 100% electric with it's vehicle fleet.  



"Sir, our 65 ton tank only gets 50 miles per charge, it takes eight hours to recharge it, and there are no electric power lines out here in BFE!"



"Bring in diesel generators, PVT!"



"Sir, that will take twice as much fuel as just fueling our original diesel powered tanks to begin with!"



Just fucking retarded.



https://www.foxnews.com/media/granholm-ev-military-puts-electric-tanks-green-agenda-before-national-security-critics">https://www.foxnews.com/media/granholm- ... ty-critics">https://www.foxnews.com/media/granholm-ev-military-puts-electric-tanks-green-agenda-before-national-security-critics

People have no concept of power generation, just like they dont have a concept of what a trillion dollars is. Everyone I talk to who isnt in a similar field as me, their eyes glass over when I tell them a quick charger requires 31KW per port to run. On a 200a home, the service is rated for 80% use. That means you have 160 amps of service times 240vac which equals about 38.5K. You damn near need 100% of all the electricity going into a home to fast charge a fucking car. Using single phase home shit, the meter would be rolling over like the fukin national debt clock while your ass sits in the dark without any A/C!!!!!  

I don't completely understand what you are talking about. But, I do understand that a global fleet of electric only vehicles and heavy equipment is not even close to being possible.

[DKG]

Gavin Newscum, the self styles radical leftist dictator of California wants to outlaw all existing freight trains.  No all electric trains currently exist because of the extreme amount of electricity needed to power trains with dozens and dozens of loaded freight cars.  These idiots just pass mandates without even asking industry or engineers if their pie in the sky pipe dreams are even doable much less economically feasible.  



We already have a shortage of big rigs because Newacum demands only brand new ultra low emissions big rigs be used in the state.  The problem is no one wants to spend $800,000 on the fancy new big rigs because Newscum had already said he will outlaw even those in a few years demanding only electric big rigs.  No existing big rigs can do long haul trucking due to batteries being uneconomic and taking to long to recharge to make them feasible for long haul trucking.  Not that Newscum has ever cared about reality or costs.



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-takes-aim-freight-train-emissions-bans-non-electric-train-engines.amp">https://www.foxnews.com/politics/califo ... ngines.amp">https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-takes-aim-freight-train-emissions-bans-non-electric-train-engines.amp

A lot of produce in Canada comes from California. Oh well, fruit and vegetables are overrated anyway.

[Anonymous]

People have no concept of power generation, just like they dont have a concept of what a trillion dollars is. Everyone I talk to who isnt in a similar field as me, their eyes glass over when I tell them a quick charger requires 31KW per port to run.

It's actually worse than you think; a subset of these assclowns aren't even aware of the infrastructure behind power generation, they just think it magically manifests itself in the wall. "Pluggee go in wall, thingee works, wheee" ...THAT level of imbecility.



Those cretins will happily blame Trump when they find out the hard way that their little fantasies are pipe dreams. Mention Keystone to them and watch their eyes glaze over yet again. NO concept of causality... you might as well be offering brain surgery tutorials to toddlers for all the good it does you.

[Herman]

This is the type of retarded shit you get 2hen you mix an ideology with something which needs to be ideology free.  Idiots are pushing the military to go 100% electric with it's vehicle fleet.  



"Sir, our 65 ton tank only gets 50 miles per charge, it takes eight hours to recharge it, and there are no electric power lines out here in BFE!"



"Bring in diesel generators, PVT!"



"Sir, that will take twice as much fuel as just fueling our original diesel powered tanks to begin with!"



Just fucking retarded.



https://www.foxnews.com/media/granholm-ev-military-puts-electric-tanks-green-agenda-before-national-security-critics">https://www.foxnews.com/media/granholm- ... ty-critics">https://www.foxnews.com/media/granholm-ev-military-puts-electric-tanks-green-agenda-before-national-security-critics

It is going to be hard finding extension cords for tanks.

[Anonymous]

It is going to be hard finding extension cords for tanks.

Not to mention effective firefighting equipment to put out the inferno when one of those batteries goes into thermal runaway.

[DKG]

It is going to be hard finding extension cords for tanks.

Not to mention effective firefighting equipment to put out the inferno when one of those batteries goes into thermal runaway.

I would not want to be within twenty kms of the town if one of those batteries catches fire.

[DKG]

This was written by Brian Bootcamp O'Connor



Exactly one year after purchasing the electric Mustang Mach-E, I'd like to share my thoughts, pros and cons of driving an all electric car.

Pros:

1. Driving is like nothing I've experienced! The acceleration and power is so smooth and luxurious. What a ride!

2. Don't have to buy gas.

3. Low maintenance!!! No oil changes! Fewer moving parts equals less parts breaking down.

4. City driving is amazing! The car battery excels in slow, stop and go conditions.

 

Cons:

1. Winter driving is very stressful.  The battery drains very quickly in the cold. Heating your cabin in extremely cold temperatures is sometimes impossible! At minus 35 degrees Celsius, your windshield will freeze over as NO HEAT will be provided! That's right...only cold air in very cold climate!

3. Charging your car takes much longer in the winter. Traveling to Ottawa once, it took 90 minutes to charge my car from 20% to 80% at a level 3 Charging spot.

4. The anger and frustration when you pull up to a fast charger off the highway and it is "out of order" is out of this world! It happens too often!

5. Everywhere you travel to, extensive careful planning is needed because fast chargers (level 3) are not easy to find in working order.

6. Highway driving drains your battery very fast at speeds greater than 100kms per hour.



In Summary:

1. My Mustang Mach-E is not a practical car for my job. I put 30,000kms in one year.  If we have a colder Winter next year I'll be miserable!

2. The infrastructure is a joke for non- tesla cars. I cannot imagine doubling the electric cars on the road with the current available fast chargers. The wait lines and times to charge will increase arrival times on long trips by many hours!

3. Electric cars are not very efficient on the highway if you like to drive fast.

In my opinion, a plug-in Hybrid (PHEV) car would be ideal. PHEV cars can drive electric in the city, saving you on gas.  Then choose gas to drive efficiently on the highway. Win-win!



I sold my Mustang Mach-E and I am on a waiting list to buy a PHEV.  It was a fun ride while it lasted but very impractical for my line of work. Our cold Quebec winters and the very poor infrastructure adds to my obvious decision.  



Our governments want to put a holt on the production of internal combustion engines by 2035. Good luck with that! The current infrastructure is a joke. I do not have any faith it can be improved to meet the future demand.

[Herman]

It is going to be hard finding extension cords for tanks.

Not to mention effective firefighting equipment to put out the inferno when one of those batteries goes into thermal runaway.

You got that right.

[Herman]

This was written by Brian Bootcamp O'Connor



Exactly one year after purchasing the electric Mustang Mach-E, I'd like to share my thoughts, pros and cons of driving an all electric car.

Pros:

1. Driving is like nothing I've experienced! The acceleration and power is so smooth and luxurious. What a ride!

2. Don't have to buy gas.

3. Low maintenance!!! No oil changes! Fewer moving parts equals less parts breaking down.

4. City driving is amazing! The car battery excels in slow, stop and go conditions.

 

Cons:

1. Winter driving is very stressful.  The battery drains very quickly in the cold. Heating your cabin in extremely cold temperatures is sometimes impossible! At minus 35 degrees Celsius, your windshield will freeze over as NO HEAT will be provided! That's right...only cold air in very cold climate!

3. Charging your car takes much longer in the winter. Traveling to Ottawa once, it took 90 minutes to charge my car from 20% to 80% at a level 3 Charging spot.

4. The anger and frustration when you pull up to a fast charger off the highway and it is "out of order" is out of this world! It happens too often!

5. Everywhere you travel to, extensive careful planning is needed because fast chargers (level 3) are not easy to find in working order.

6. Highway driving drains your battery very fast at speeds greater than 100kms per hour.



In Summary:

1. My Mustang Mach-E is not a practical car for my job. I put 30,000kms in one year.  If we have a colder Winter next year I'll be miserable!

2. The infrastructure is a joke for non- tesla cars. I cannot imagine doubling the electric cars on the road with the current available fast chargers. The wait lines and times to charge will increase arrival times on long trips by many hours!

3. Electric cars are not very efficient on the highway if you like to drive fast.

In my opinion, a plug-in Hybrid (PHEV) car would be ideal. PHEV cars can drive electric in the city, saving you on gas.  Then choose gas to drive efficiently on the highway. Win-win!



I sold my Mustang Mach-E and I am on a waiting list to buy a PHEV.  It was a fun ride while it lasted but very impractical for my line of work. Our cold Quebec winters and the very poor infrastructure adds to my obvious decision.  



Our governments want to put a holt on the production of internal combustion engines by 2035. Good luck with that! The current infrastructure is a joke. I do not have any faith it can be improved to meet the future demand.

That is about the kind of review I would expect. Electric vehicles aint very practical in a country like Canada.

[Herman]

Here is a mini-catalogue of progress, provided by those that just do stuff, the ones that utilize every tool at their disposal to stand on the shoulders of giants and reach from there. They are doing what needs to happen, maintaining both existing productive capability and pushing new-energy technologies.



This small representative cluster was pulled from Q1/23 conference call scripts, showing how energy transition ideas are taking root in fertile ground:



Weatherford International (emphasis added): The company noted $290 million of multi-year contract extensions in Latin America for onshore petroleum activity, a 3-year, 5-rig Azerbaijan deep water rig contract, and that "we continue to gain traction in the geothermal energy space through a combination of commercial wins and partnerships...entered into an exclusive collaboration agreement with CeraPhi Energy to provide an integrated package of products and services to end users for the development of geothermal energy. Weatherford will offer its global expertise in data acquisition, digitalization, and automation services, and CeraPhi will leverage its proven engineering and project management services to provide enhanced geothermal technology solutions to the market."



Nabors Drilling (emphasis added): the company talked about a 10-rig new-build program for the Saudi market, with the wells under a six-year contract...then this: "I will update several impactful technologies, which are focused on reducing our own environmental footprint as well as on third-party rigs...First is our PowerTap module, which connects rigs to the grid. We now have 15 of these units deployed... Second, our Smart Power Advisory and Control System optimizes utilization of the engines and reduces emissions. This solution is currently installed on all of our rigs in the Lower 48...Third, the NanO2 diesel fuel additive improves engine performance and reduces emissions. We have already successfully treated more than 17 million gallons of diesel to date. Clients indicate strong interest in our solutions that reduce fuel consumption and emissions...We are now in field testing for a new technology, which uses hydrogen economically generated at the well site to reduce fuel consumption. We expect this product to become commercial later this year."

[Oerdin]

Just another reason why electric cars are never going to be good for the masses.  A minor fender bender turns into a $42,000 repair bill.  Also remember batteries need to be replaced every 8-10 years and cost $25,000-$35,000.



https://www.thedrive.com/news/rivian-r1t-fender-bender-turns-into-42000-repair-bill">https://www.thedrive.com/news/rivian-r1 ... epair-bill">https://www.thedrive.com/news/rivian-r1t-fender-bender-turns-into-42000-repair-bill