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Wagner Mutiny on Russia

Started by Oerdin, June 24, 2023, 11:11:09 AM

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Shen Li

The West is behind this. When I say the West, I mean the United Socialist States of America.

Oerdin

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/putin-accuses-wagner-group-of-betrayal-as-russian-mercenaries-march-towards-moscow">https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/putin ... rds-moscow">https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/putin-accuses-wagner-group-of-betrayal-as-russian-mercenaries-march-towards-moscow



Piggy says he will be relocating to Belarus and leave Russia.  No word on if he will be taking his army with him.

Oerdin

Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=504385 time=1687637265 user_id=3389
The West is behind this. When I say the West, I mean the United Socialist States of America.


I doubt it.  It is more the nature of a dictatorship that other people try to make themselves dictator.

Frood

Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=504385 time=1687637265 user_id=3389
The West is behind this. When I say the West, I mean the United Socialist States of America.




Yup...  and being unsuccessful in fuckery is a Biden administration trait.
Blahhhhhh...

Oerdin

Putin supposedly agreed to remove his top two military officials in the next two months in exchange for Wagner stopping.



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DKG

Quote from: Oerdin post_id=504395 time=1687662076 user_id=3374
Putin supposedly agreed to remove his top two military officials in the next two months in exchange for Wagner stopping.



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The Wagner Group is populated by neo nazis. There should be no concessions.

DKG

From The Eppch Times.



The Belarus President's Office has said that Wagner mercenary group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin has agreed to stop the group's lightning-fast advance toward Moscow and to deescalate the situation, with Prigozhin confirming the news in a social media post.



Alexander Lukashenko, the president of Belarus and an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, has reportedly held talks with Prigozhin, according to Lukashenko's press service.



The Belarussian president's office added that Lukashenko's talks with Prigozhin had Putin's blessing and that there's a draft agreement on the table that would provide security guarantees for Wagner fighters.



Russian state media TASS reported that a tentative deal has been reached that would halt Wagner's advance toward Moscow, which sparked a pledge from Putin to crush any insurrection.



Prigozhin confirmed in a statement on his Telegram channel that he has ordered his mercenaries to halt their march on Moscow and retreat to their field camps in Ukraine in order to avoid shedding Russian blood.

DKG

Who is Yevgeny Prigozhin and what is the Wagner Group?



Yevgeny Prigozhin was born in Saint Petersburg, Russia. Early in his life, he was a convict and owned a hot dog stand, but later branched out to operate fancy restaurants.



ABC News reported:



In 2010, Putin helped open Prigozhin's factory that was built on generous loans by a state bank. In Moscow alone, his company Concord won millions of dollars in contracts to provide meals at public schools. He also organized catering for Kremlin events for several years — earning him the nickname "Putin's chef" — and has provided catering and utility services to the Russian military."

In 2014, Prigozhin became the leader of the Wagner Group, a private military company that participated in Russia's annexation of Crimea.



PMC Wagner had been fighting alongside Russian military forces in the invasion of Ukraine. Last year, the Kremlin-backed Wagner group attempted to assassinate Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, according to The Times.



According to the Associated Press, "The Wagner forces have played a crucial role in Russia's war in Ukraine, succeeding in taking the city where the bloodiest and longest battles have taken place, Bakhmut. But Prigozhin has increasingly criticized Russia's military brass, accusing it of incompetence and of starving his troops of weapons and ammunition."



Prigozhin, 61, said he transitioned from a Putin ally to staging a serious rebellion because of an alleged Russian attack on Wagner forces in Ukraine.



Prigozhin claimed that Russia's chief of the General Staff, Gen. Valery Gerasimov, ordered airstrikes on Wagner's convoys, which were driving alongside ordinary vehicles. He asserted that the attack killed "a huge number of our comrades." Prigozhin alleged that Gerasimov made the order after a meeting with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.



The Russian Defense Ministry denied attacking Wagner troops.



Prigozhin, who claimed to have 25,000 troops under his command, said the Wagner Group would punish Shoigu in an armed rebellion and possible civil war.

DKG

I am just learning this mod stuff. Anyway, I accidentally deleted a post by Oerdin that I wanted to respond to.



Oerdin, would you be so kind as to post that youtube link again.

Lokmar

putin's fucked up his country, biden has fucked up ours. They both deserve to be launched into the sun.

Herman

Despite what what some folks think of Putin, Russia would descend into chaos without his authoritarian leadership.

Lokmar

Quote from: Herman post_id=504440 time=1687748384 user_id=3396
Despite what what some folks think of Putin, Russia would descend into chaos without his authoritarian leadership.


I agree.

Herman

Quote from: Lokmar post_id=504444 time=1687749736 user_id=3351
Quote from: Herman post_id=504440 time=1687748384 user_id=3396
Despite what what some folks think of Putin, Russia would descend into chaos without his authoritarian leadership.


I agree.

The old lady is Mongolian and like many Mongols she speaks fluent Russian. She likes Putin because she knows the alternative could be much worse.

Oerdin


Oerdin

Ukraine claims Russia has approved plan to blow up the ZNPP.



https://news.yahoo.com/plan-blow-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-power-155626856.html">https://news.yahoo.com/plan-blow-zapori ... 26856.html">https://news.yahoo.com/plan-blow-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-power-155626856.html