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By my buddy Alex Epstein.

Myth: The best policy toward CO2 emissions is "net zero by 2050."

Truth: Net-zero policies have been catastrophically destructive when barely implemented and would be apocalyptically destructive if fully implemented.

They should be abandoned in favor of energy freedom policies.

How to think about the right policy toward fossil fuels and their CO2 emissions
What are "net zero by 2050 policies"?

Government (coercive) actions whose primary and binding goal is the net-elimination of CO2 (and other GHG) emissions, whose number one source is fossil fuel use, by 2050.

In practice "net zero" means: rapidly eliminate most fossil fuel use.

One "net zero" policy is an extremely high "carbon tax," like "$1000/ton."

This would mean, in practice:

3-4 times higher prices for gasoline in Texas

9 times higher electricity prices in West Virginia

4-5 times higher prices for heating with natural gas

What are "energy freedom policies"?

Government actions to protect the ability of producers to produce all forms of energy and consumers to use all forms of energy, so long as they don't engage in reasonably preventable pollution or endangerment of others.

Energy freedom policies include:

Protecting the freedom to develop fossil fuels and other forms of energy. E.g., deep geothermal development.

Protecting the freedom to use fossil fuels and all other forms of energy. E.g., "decriminalizing nuclear."

Interesting: the 2 biggest instances of CO2 reduction have come from energy freedom policies:

Nuclear: Freedom led to cost-effective and scalable nuclear power until the "green" movement virtually criminalized it.

Gas: Freedom led to significant substitution of gas vs. coal.

Myth: Net-zero policies are new and exciting.

Truth: Net-zero policies have caused catastrophic energy shortages even with minuscule implementation. Just by slowing the growth of fossil fuel use, not even reducing it, they have caused global energy shortages advocates didn't warn us of.

Minuscule net-zero policies causing huge problems:

US: Frequent power shortages (and some disastrous blackouts) after shutting down fossil fuel power plants. E.g., CA

EU: Deadly fossil fuel dependence after restricting domestic fossil fuel industry

Poor nations: Can't afford fuel due to global restrictions¹


The root problem with "net zero by 2050"

It violates a basic principle of rational thinking, which is that when evaluating what to do about a product or technology—e.g., prescription drug—you need to carefully weigh the benefits and side-effects of your alternatives.

Myth: If there are negative climate side-effects of continuing fossil fuel use we should get them to net-zero as soon as possible.

Truth: We should carefully weigh them against the benefits that come with them, including positive climate side-effects, climate mastery abilities, and many broader benefits.

It is particularly crucial to weigh any negative climate side-effects of continuing fossil fuel use against the climate mastery benefits that come with them, as those benefits can neutralize or overwhelm negatives.

E.g., more energy powering heating and cooling, irrigation, infrastructure-building, etc.

Example of fossil-fueled climate mastery overwhelming negative impacts: Drought.

Any contribution of rising CO2 to drought has been overwhelmed by fossil-fueled irrigation and crop transport, which have helped reduce drought deaths by over 100 times over 100 years as CO2 levels have risen.²


An irrefutable method for thinking about policy toward fossil fuels and their CO2 emissions

1 Factor in broad benefits
2 Factor in climate mastery benefits
3 Factor in positive and negative climate side-effects (from rising CO2)

No net-zero advocate has refuted it, yet none follow it.

How net-zero advocates fail to weigh benefits and side-effects of fossil fuels

Factor in broad benefits – Deny or trivialize

Factor in climate mastery benefits – Deny

Factor in positive and negative climate side-effects – Deny or trivialize positives, Catastrophize negatives = Overstate, Deny mastery

If we follow the irrefutable principles of weighing benefits and climate side-effects of continuing fossil fuel use, using undeniable facts and mainstream science, it is obvious that "net zero by 2050" would be apocalyptically destructive and that the right path forward is energy freedom.

   
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In preparation for a "net zero by 2050" debate that my opponent failed to show up for, I created refutations of every myth in support of net-zero that I've every encountered.
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For the last several months I have been eagerly anticipating a scheduled debate I had at the University of Syracuse on "net zero by 2050" with climate catastrophist and net-zero advocate Tom Rand.

Unfortunately, due apparently to some sort of weird contractual issue between Tom's agent and the university, Tom did not make it to the debate. He took no responsibility for the situation, despite the fact that he signed the contracts that caused the problem. Much worse, he did not apologize to me at all, even though he knows that preparing for a specific debate opponent takes a lot of time. Here's my exchange with Tom over the issue (warning, he uses profanity).

Since I was supposed to be in a debate, but there was no one to debate, I thought the best I could make of the situation would be to give a speech refuting every single argument for "net zero by 2050" that Tom and others make. It ended up being one of my favorite speeches ever; you can watch it here.

Below I have included all the "net zero" myths I covered last night, and then some. I think you'll find them, along with the positive points about energy freedom, very valuable.

Myth: The best policy toward CO2 emissions is "net zero by 2050."

Truth: Net-zero policies have been catastrophically destructive when barely implemented and would be apocalyptically destructive if fully implemented.

They should be abandoned in favor of energy freedom policies.

How to think about the right policy toward fossil fuels and their CO2 emissions
What are "net zero by 2050 policies"?

Government (coercive) actions whose primary and binding goal is the net-elimination of CO2 (and other GHG) emissions, whose number one source is fossil fuel use, by 2050.

In practice "net zero" means: rapidly eliminate most fossil fuel use.

One "net zero" policy is an extremely high "carbon tax," like "$1000/ton."

This would mean, in practice:

3-4 times higher prices for gasoline in Texas

9 times higher electricity prices in West Virginia

4-5 times higher prices for heating with natural gas

What are "energy freedom policies"?

Government actions to protect the ability of producers to produce all forms of energy and consumers to use all forms of energy, so long as they don't engage in reasonably preventable pollution or endangerment of others.

Energy freedom policies include:

Protecting the freedom to develop fossil fuels and other forms of energy. E.g., deep geothermal development.

Protecting the freedom to use fossil fuels and all other forms of energy. E.g., "decriminalizing nuclear."

Interesting: the 2 biggest instances of CO2 reduction have come from energy freedom policies:

Nuclear: Freedom led to cost-effective and scalable nuclear power until the "green" movement virtually criminalized it.

Gas: Freedom led to significant substitution of gas vs. coal.

Myth: Net-zero policies are new and exciting.

Truth: Net-zero policies have caused catastrophic energy shortages even with minuscule implementation. Just by slowing the growth of fossil fuel use, not even reducing it, they have caused global energy shortages advocates didn't warn us of.

Minuscule net-zero policies causing huge problems:

US: Frequent power shortages (and some disastrous blackouts) after shutting down fossil fuel power plants. E.g., CA

EU: Deadly fossil fuel dependence after restricting domestic fossil fuel industry

Poor nations: Can't afford fuel due to global restrictions¹


The root problem with "net zero by 2050"

It violates a basic principle of rational thinking, which is that when evaluating what to do about a product or technology—e.g., prescription drug—you need to carefully weigh the benefits and side-effects of your alternatives.

Myth: If there are negative climate side-effects of continuing fossil fuel use we should get them to net-zero as soon as possible.

Truth: We should carefully weigh them against the benefits that come with them, including positive climate side-effects, climate mastery abilities, and many broader benefits.

It is particularly crucial to weigh any negative climate side-effects of continuing fossil fuel use against the climate mastery benefits that come with them, as those benefits can neutralize or overwhelm negatives.

E.g., more energy powering heating and cooling, irrigation, infrastructure-building, etc.

Example of fossil-fueled climate mastery overwhelming negative impacts: Drought.

Any contribution of rising CO2 to drought has been overwhelmed by fossil-fueled irrigation and crop transport, which have helped reduce drought deaths by over 100 times over 100 years as CO2 levels have risen.²


An irrefutable method for thinking about policy toward fossil fuels and their CO2 emissions

1 Factor in broad benefits
2 Factor in climate mastery benefits
3 Factor in positive and negative climate side-effects (from rising CO2)

No net-zero advocate has refuted it, yet none follow it.

How net-zero advocates fail to weigh benefits and side-effects of fossil fuels

Factor in broad benefits – Deny or trivialize

Factor in climate mastery benefits – Deny

Factor in positive and negative climate side-effects – Deny or trivialize positives, Catastrophize negatives = Overstate, Deny mastery

If we follow the irrefutable principles of weighing benefits and climate side-effects of continuing fossil fuel use, using undeniable facts and mainstream science, it is obvious that "net zero by 2050" would be apocalyptically destructive and that the right path forward is energy freedom.

Applying fossil fuel policy principle 1: Factoring in the broad benefits of continuing fossil fuel use
Myth: The benefit of continuing fossil fuel use is trivial at best.

Truth: The benefit of continuing fossil fuel use is a world in which 8 billion people have the energy they need to survive and flourish—vs. an energy-starved world in which most of the world's 8 billion people suffer from poverty and premature death.

Myth: There are no real benefits of continuing fossil fuel use because it can be rapidly replaced by mostly solar and wind.

Truth: fossil fuels are and for decades will remain uniquely cost-effective: affordable, reliable, versatile—on a scale of billions of people in thousands of places.

Myth: Fossil fuels are being rapidly replaced in an "energy transition" to solar and wind.

Truth: Fossil fuel use is 80% of the world's energy and still growing despite 100+ years of aggressive competition and 20+ years of political hostility and massive solar and wind favoritism.³


Myth: Fossil fuel use will soon rapidly decline because countries know "green" energy will be cheaper.

Truth: Countries that care most about cheap energy are pro-fossil fuels.

E.g., China, which uses mostly coal to produce "green" tech, has over 300 planned new coal plants designed to last over 40 years.

Myth: Solar and wind are growing fast by outcompeting fossil fuels with superior economics.

Truth: Solar and wind are growing fast only when given massive government preferences—mandates, subsidies, and no penalty for unreliability—along with crippling government punishments of fossil fuels.

Myth: Solar and wind are now cheaper than fossil fuels.

Truth: For the overwhelming majority of the world's energy needs, solar and wind either can't do what fossil fuel can—e.g., non-electricity energy uses such as airplanes or cargo ships—or are far more expensive.

Myth: Solar and wind electricity is getting so cheap that will lead to rapid electrification of the 4/5ths of today's energy that is not electricity.

Truth: When you factor in the full cost of the 24/7 life support that unreliable solar and wind electricity need, they are far more expensive.⁴


Myth: Solar and wind plus batteries will inevitably be super-cheap because of efficiency increases driving lower production costs and higher performance.

Truth: Their cost is astronomical today and has a large mining component whose costs will increase if scaled artificially quickly.⁵


Even relatively mild increases in demand for critical minerals in recent years have led to scaling issues and cost increases—reversing a trend of falling prices that solar and wind advocates pretended would last forever.

What will rapid scaling plus anti-mining policies do?⁶


Myth: Rapidly eliminating fossil fuels will make us more energy-secure.

Truth: We'd be far less energy secure because 1) we'd have drastically less energy, period, and 2) we're far more dependent on China for key components of solar, wind, and batteries than we are on Russia for fossil fuels.⁷


Myth: Reliable alternatives to fossil fuels, such as nuclear and geothermal, can rapidly replace fossil fuels.

Truth: While these industries have potential that we should unleash, they are generations away from providing, on a global scale, energy that's affordable, reliable, and versatile.

Herman



Myth: Academics have rigorous plans to replace fossil fuels with mostly solar and wind

Truth: All these "plans" involve 2 absurdities:
1. Unprecedented mining and construction in today's anti-development political environment will be cheap.
2. Untested schemes will be cheap, everywhere, the first time.

"Net zero" plans to scale solar and wind involve more than doubling the supply of half a dozen major mined materials per decade.

I know of no example, ever, of any major mined mineral doubling that fast, even with pro-development governments—let alone today's anti-development governments.⁹


All "net zero" by 2050 plans involve totally untested schemes, both for

1. Electricity: Solar and wind somehow being the basis of cheap, reliable electricity.
2. Other energy: Myriad electric or hydrogen vehicles (e.g., planes, ships) that are nowhere near commercial reality.¹⁰


Myth: Carbon capture will soon allow us to have global cost-effective energy without CO2 emissions.

Truth: While cost-effective carbon capture is worth exploring (e.g., using CO2 for industry or agriculture), there's no evidence that most emissions can be captured cheaply.


Summary: Fossil fuels are, and for decades will remain, uniquely cost-effective: affordable, reliable, versatile—on a scale of billions of people in thousands of places.

Policy implications:

Energy freedom —> global cost-effective energy

Net zero —> very little cost-effective energy

When "net zero by 2050" advocates are forced to concede that their policies would (at minimum) dramatically reduce the availability of energy, they revert to the myth that cost-effective energy is only of modest importance compared to CO2 emissions reductions.

Myth: Cost-effective energy isn't nearly as important as CO2 reductions, which affect Earth's livability.

Truth: The cost-effectiveness of energy determines Earth's livability because it allows us to use machines turn a naturally inhospitable planet into an abundant and safe place.¹¹


Myth: The Earth will be a highly livable place—stable, sufficient in resources, and safe—as long as we don't impact it too much.

Truth: Earth is very inhospitable—dynamic, deficient, dangerous—unless we have the productive ability to transform and impact it to be abundant and safe.

Myth: Energy is just one of many factors affecting to what extent we can flourish on this naturally inhospitable planet.

Truth: The cost-effectiveness of energy is fundamental to human flourishing because it determines our ability to use machines to become super-productive.

Myth: Fossil Fuels aren't the reason the Earth is so livable now—it's much more medical care, sanitation, scientific progress, and technological progress.

Truth: Cost-effective fossil fuels underlie them all: freeing up time for them, powering their machines, and providing raw materials.¹²


Myth: The benefits we've gotten from uniquely cost-effective fossil fuel energy are modest at best compared to their downsides.

Thanks to our fossil-fueled productivity, longevity and income have been skyrocketing, with extreme poverty (<$2/day) plummeting from 42% in 1980 to less than 10% today.¹³


Myth: Rapidly eliminating uniquely cost-effective fossil fuel energy won't be that bad because we can save a lot energy via efficiency.

Truth: Not only could people in the wealthy world benefit from more energy, the vast majority of the world needs much more energy to get out of poverty.

The desperate need for far more of the global-scale cost-effective energy that only fossil fuels can provide near-term:

1/3 of the world uses wood and animal dung for heating and cooking.

3 billion use less electricity than a typical American refrigerator.¹⁴


Myth: Poor countries will "leapfrog" fossil fuels and go right to solar and wind.

Truth: No rich country has been able to abandon fossil fuels even at huge cost, while every dramatic increase in wealth has involved fossil fuels: Japan, Singapore, South Korea, China, etc.

Poor countries are not guinea pigs.

Any invocation of "efficiency" to pretend that the world doesn't need far more energy amounts to cruel indifference to the enormous energy needs of the world's poorest people.

Summary: Fossil fuels are a near-term irreplaceable source of the cost-effective energy humans need to flourish.

Policy implications

Energy freedom —> Billions more will have the opportunity to flourish.

Net zero —> Billions of energy-starved people plunge into poverty and early death.

Herman

Applying fossil fuel policy principle 2: Factoring in the climate mastery benefits of continuing fossil fuel use
Myth: Our weak "adaptation" abilities are already overwhelmed by climate changes.

Truth: Our fossil-fueled climate mastery abilities have completely overwhelmed any negative changes plus huge natural danger—meaning we can overcome almost any conceivable future climate challenge.

Myth: We are more endangered than ever by climate because of fossil fuels' CO2 emissions.

Truth: We have a 98% decline in climate disaster deaths due to our enormous fossil-fueled climate mastery abilities: heating/cooling, infrastructure-building, irrigation, crop transport.¹⁵


Myth: Climate-related disaster X shows that fossil fuels are making climate unlivable.

Truth: If we look at trends, not anecdotes, the drastic decline in extreme weather deaths shows that fossil fuels have made our naturally dangerous climate more livable than ever.¹⁶


Myth: The decline in climate disaster deaths is due to storm warning systems, not fossil fuels.

Truth:
1. Fossil fuels power storm warning and evacuation systems.
2. Drought, not storm, deaths are the leading source of climate death reduced.¹⁷


Myth: Even if climate-related disaster deaths are down, climate-related damages are way up, pointing to a bankrupting climate future.

Truth: Even though there are many incentives for climate damages to go up—preferences for riskier areas, government bailouts—GDP-adjusted damages are flat.¹⁸


Myth: Adaptation to future climate changes is expensive, while "mitigation"—avoiding CO2 emissions—is relatively cheap.

Truth: We've seen that using fossil fuels we can be ever-wealthier and safer from climate, vs. even minor "mitigation" has caused deadly energy shortages and poverty.¹⁹


Myth: Even if we're safe from climate now, we can expect future emissions to lead to disaster.

Truth: Since today's unprecedented safety exists after 100+ years of rising CO2, and with 1° C warming, we should be skeptical that further CO2 rises will somehow overwhelm us.

Summary: A crucial benefit of uniquely cost-effective fossil fuel energy is enormous climate mastery abilities.

Policy implications

Energy freedom —> We'll get ever-better at mastering climate danger, natural or manmade.

Net zero —> Climate danger will dramatically increase.

Applying fossil fuel policy principle 3: Factoring in the positive and negative climate impacts of continuing fossil fuel use (with precision)
Myth: Mainstream science shows that rising CO2 is an "existential threat" that will soon cause global catastrophe and then apocalypse.

Truth: Mainstream science shows that rising CO2 levels will lead to levels of warming and other changes that we can master and flourish with.

Myth: Media "expert" claims of future climate disaster are likely to be credible.

Truth: Such claims are only credible if the expert factors in climate mastery (which almost none do) and does not engage in the popular practice of distorting climate science for effect.²⁰



Myth: If mainstream science concludes that we will experience more warming, storm intensity, or sea level rises, that means catastrophe or worse.

Truth: Given climate mastery, catastrophe could only occur with changes that are a total difference in kind from rising CO2 so far.

Climate mastery is so powerful that for CO2 emissions to be apocalyptic enough to justify rapid fossil fuel restriction, let alone elimination, they'd need to have unprecedented impacts, such as

Seas rising feet per decade

2X more powerful storms

Science shows nothing like this.

Myth: Future warming is ominous because heat-related death is already such a catastrophic problem.

Truth: Even though Earth has gotten 1°C warmer, far more people still die from cold than heat (even in India)! Near-term warming is expected to decrease temperature-related mortality.²¹


Myth: Future warming is ominous because it will be worst in hot areas.

Truth: The mainstream view in climate science is that more warming will be concentrated in colder places (Northern latitudes) and at colder times (nighttime) and during colder seasons (winter). Good news.²²


Myth: Future warming will accelerate as CO2 levels rise.

Truth: Mainstream science is unanimous that the "greenhouse effect" is a diminishing effect, with additional CO2 leading to less warning.

Even IPCC's most extreme, far-fetched scenarios show warming leveling off.²³


Myth: Climate science says Earth will be a scorching desert, like "Mad Max."

There is no Mad Max scenario, even considering emissions and warming higher than we can expect. Agricultural productivity is estimated to increase massively under a 4-5°C warming scenario.²⁴



Myth: Even if we won't be overwhelmed by warming driven by rising CO2, we'll be overwhelmed by other climate changes, such as sea level rises and storms.

Truth: Even the IPCC, with many catastrophist tendencies, projects climate changes that would be masterable with fossil fuels.

Myth: We face catastrophically rapid sea level rises, which will destroy and submerge coastal cities.

Truth: Extreme UN sea level rise projections are just 3 feet in 100 years. Future generations can master that. (We already have 100M people living below high-tide sea level.)²⁵


Myth: Hurricane intensity is expected to get catastrophically higher as temperatures rise.

Truth: Mainstream estimates say hurricanes will be less frequent and between 1-10% more intense at 2° C warming. This is not at all catastrophic if we continue our fossil-fueled climate mastery.²⁶


Myth: We face catastrophic increases in dangerous wildfires, an "Earth on fire."

While the media increasingly reports on fires and draws connections to warming, the world burns less than 20 years ago and far less than 100 years ago. Fire danger primarily depends on human mastery.²⁷

Myth: Science says that if we hit 2° C warming, let alone beyond, since the 1800s, we face catastrophe followed by apocalypse.

Truth: The 2° C number is activist fiction. The climate mastery abilities that have made life far better through 1° C warming so far will continue to keep us safe.

Summary: Continuing fossil fuel use will lead to levels of warming and other changes that we can master and flourish with.

Policy implications

Energy freedom —> CO2 levels rise, life continues to get better and better

Net zero —> CO2 levels rise more slowly, billions of lives ruined

Energy freedom policies are more likely to lead to long-term emissions reductions.

Because they accelerate the rate at which nuclear and other alternatives become globally cost-competitive.

(The only moral and practical way to reduce global emissions.)²⁸


Net zero by 2050, by failing to recognize the unique benefits of fossil fuels, is catastrophic when barely implemented and would be apocalyptic if fully implemented.

Energy freedom gives billions more people the energy they need to flourish and unleashes truly cost-effective alternatives.

Lokmar

CO2 never has and never will be pollution. Politicians should be butchered in the streets and burned in ovens like jews. End of.

Herman

Quote from: Lokmar on September 22, 2023, 08:41:15 PMCO2 never has and never will be pollution. Politicians should be butchered in the streets and burned in ovens like jews. End of.
We would still have the prog billionaires that own the politicians. They would hire private armies to enforce their authoritarian bullshit after the politicians are all dead.

DKG

Net zero is a currently fashinable term that is unrealistic.