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Shen Li

The last 2 posts show what we all know: the various governments in Canada do not work for Canadian citizens. They work against them.

Oliver the Second


Big bad Canada is ruining my vacation waaaaa  :cray:

US lawmakers write to Canada to complain that its wildfire smoke is spoiling summer



Smoke from Canadian wildfires is drifting south and making it difficult for Americans to enjoy summer, six members of Congress have said in a letter to Canada's embassy.

"We write to you today on behalf of our constituents who have had to deal with suffocating Canadian wildfire smoke filling the air to begin the summer," they wrote to Ambassador Kirsten Hillman.

It was signed by Tom Tiffany and Glenn Grothman of Wisconsin and Michelle Fischbach, Brad Finstad, Pete Stauber and Tom Emmer of Minnesota. The Canadian embassy told the BBC that Canada takes wildfire prevention "very seriously".

Tom Emmer is a senior member of Congress, serving as Majority Whip in the House of Representatives.

He and his five fellow Republican lawmakers wrote in the letter, published Monday: "We would like to know how your government plans on mitigating wildfire and the smoke that makes its way south."

They continued: "Our constituents have been limited in their ability to go outside and safely breathe due to the dangerous air quality the wildfire smoke has created.

"In our neck of the woods, summer months are the best time of the year to spend time outdoors recreating, enjoying time with family, and creating new memories, but this wildfire smoke makes it difficult to do all those things."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czjkgg0kk3lo

formosan

Quote from: Oliver the Second on July 10, 2025, 10:30:49 AMBig bad Canada is ruining my vacation waaaaa  :cray:

US lawmakers write to Canada to complain that its wildfire smoke is spoiling summer



Smoke from Canadian wildfires is drifting south and making it difficult for Americans to enjoy summer, six members of Congress have said in a letter to Canada's embassy.

"We write to you today on behalf of our constituents who have had to deal with suffocating Canadian wildfire smoke filling the air to begin the summer," they wrote to Ambassador Kirsten Hillman.

It was signed by Tom Tiffany and Glenn Grothman of Wisconsin and Michelle Fischbach, Brad Finstad, Pete Stauber and Tom Emmer of Minnesota. The Canadian embassy told the BBC that Canada takes wildfire prevention "very seriously".

Tom Emmer is a senior member of Congress, serving as Majority Whip in the House of Representatives.

He and his five fellow Republican lawmakers wrote in the letter, published Monday: "We would like to know how your government plans on mitigating wildfire and the smoke that makes its way south."

They continued: "Our constituents have been limited in their ability to go outside and safely breathe due to the dangerous air quality the wildfire smoke has created.

"In our neck of the woods, summer months are the best time of the year to spend time outdoors recreating, enjoying time with family, and creating new memories, but this wildfire smoke makes it difficult to do all those things."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czjkgg0kk3lo
Oliver, I don't understand why Canadian provinces get so many wildfires while neighbouring American states with the same forests and climate don't.
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Herman

Where the hell is my country that we all used to be so proud to be a citizen of.

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Herman

Old Pierre was right. The White Paper should have became law.

Herman


Herman

If Liberal government ministry is admitting to this that means the real figure is at least four times higher.

Herman

We are about to see just how much economic damage the federal government is willing to inflict upon Canadians to protect the Soviet style supply management system. President Donald Trump has put Canada's dairy, poultry and egg supply management on the hit list and citizens will be paying a high price to keep it.

It's not as if Canadians aren't already paying a high price to protect the food production cartels of the country. Items such as cheese, milk, butter, chicken and eggs cost families as much as 25% more than they should because prices are fixed through the industry cartels while massive tariffs are imposed on imported goods. It's a slap in the face to consumers struggling under high grocery bills.

It is literally illegal to produce or sell milk and other products without a government issued quota under this terrible system. If a producer makes more food than they are allotted, they must dump it down the drain. People were shocked when an Ontario farmer released a video showing him pouring tens of thousands of litres of milk down the drain in his operation. The cartels acted quickly. The video was pulled and the farmer vanished from the public eye and won't do interviews. He will likely have his licenses pulled if he acts up again.

Greedy dairy producers would rather see food go to waste than let citizens have a break on the price.

While Canadians are suffering from food inflation, over 7 billion litres of milk were dumped and destroyed in the nine years between 2012 and 2021 to ensure prices remain high to protect the dwindling number of dairy producers. This should be a crime. In fact, if this sort of collusion and price fixing was done in any other industry, it would be a crime.

Yes, the producers are dwindling. Despite the lie propagated by supply management defenders that the system protects family farms, it does the opposite. In the 1970s, Canada had 140,000 dairy farms. Now there are fewer than 9,200 of them. Only large operations can afford to purchase the quotas and they have been predatorily buying them up for years. Small operations have been squeezed out.

The penalties for running afoul of the supply management policies are harsh and quickly enforced. While violent, gun-running, repeat offenders are released on bail regularly, an older man who committed the crime of selling eggs without a quota had five RCMP cruisers show up on his doorstep, and he was jailed for days.

Now on top of all the social and economic damage caused in Canada by the supply management system, the policies could cost the nation untold billions in trade as Trump increases tariffs on Canadian goods in response to the system.

Team Carney went elbows-down quickly enough when Trump demanded an end to the digital streaming tax, but they have dug their heels in when it comes to supply management. Indeed, even several cowardly Conservative MPs voted in favour of a Bloc Québécois bill entrenching protection for supply management.

So, if supply management is such a terrible policy, why does the government fight so hard to keep it?
The hint was in who sponsored the bill to protect it; the Bloc Québécois.

Canada's dairy industry is disproportionately represented by Quebec. A quarter of Canada's dairy production comes from Quebec and the quotas keep moving there.

Meanwhile, prairie provinces with massive agricultural industries can't diversify further into dairy, eggs or poultry due to quota limitations. It's just one more way the East is screwing the West in Canada. Equalization is just the easier one to see.

It's hard to say if anything will pacify Trump. He seems to be determined to carry out a trade war no matter what Canada does. The nation could capitulate to every demand and Trump might still imposed heavy tariffs.

There's little sense giving Trump low hanging fruit to attack when he tries to leverage more from Canada on trade issues.
Canada's federal government has made supply management a hill to die on with the participation of all parties.
A high price to pay for a small number of well-heeled dairy operations in Quebec.

Cory Morgan Western Standard

Herman

When the most serious crime in your country is protesting the government, you know you're in trouble.

caskur

Quote from: formosan on July 10, 2025, 11:06:38 AMOliver, I don't understand why Canadian provinces get so many wildfires while neighbouring American states with the same forests and climate don't.

It's called arsonists, fire bugs, pyromaniacs.
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"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

caskur

Quote from: Herman on July 20, 2025, 03:10:44 PMWe are about to see just how much economic damage the federal government is willing to inflict upon Canadians to protect the Soviet style supply management system. President Donald Trump has put Canada's dairy, poultry and egg supply management on the hit list and citizens will be paying a high price to keep it.

It's not as if Canadians aren't already paying a high price to protect the food production cartels of the country. Items such as cheese, milk, butter, chicken and eggs cost families as much as 25% more than they should because prices are fixed through the industry cartels while massive tariffs are imposed on imported goods. It's a slap in the face to consumers struggling under high grocery bills.

It is literally illegal to produce or sell milk and other products without a government issued quota under this terrible system. If a producer makes more food than they are allotted, they must dump it down the drain. People were shocked when an Ontario farmer released a video showing him pouring tens of thousands of litres of milk down the drain in his operation. The cartels acted quickly. The video was pulled and the farmer vanished from the public eye and won't do interviews. He will likely have his licenses pulled if he acts up again.

Greedy dairy producers would rather see food go to waste than let citizens have a break on the price.

While Canadians are suffering from food inflation, over 7 billion litres of milk were dumped and destroyed in the nine years between 2012 and 2021 to ensure prices remain high to protect the dwindling number of dairy producers. This should be a crime. In fact, if this sort of collusion and price fixing was done in any other industry, it would be a crime.

Yes, the producers are dwindling. Despite the lie propagated by supply management defenders that the system protects family farms, it does the opposite. In the 1970s, Canada had 140,000 dairy farms. Now there are fewer than 9,200 of them. Only large operations can afford to purchase the quotas and they have been predatorily buying them up for years. Small operations have been squeezed out.

The penalties for running afoul of the supply management policies are harsh and quickly enforced. While violent, gun-running, repeat offenders are released on bail regularly, an older man who committed the crime of selling eggs without a quota had five RCMP cruisers show up on his doorstep, and he was jailed for days.

Now on top of all the social and economic damage caused in Canada by the supply management system, the policies could cost the nation untold billions in trade as Trump increases tariffs on Canadian goods in response to the system.

Team Carney went elbows-down quickly enough when Trump demanded an end to the digital streaming tax, but they have dug their heels in when it comes to supply management. Indeed, even several cowardly Conservative MPs voted in favour of a Bloc Québécois bill entrenching protection for supply management.

So, if supply management is such a terrible policy, why does the government fight so hard to keep it?
The hint was in who sponsored the bill to protect it; the Bloc Québécois.

Canada's dairy industry is disproportionately represented by Quebec. A quarter of Canada's dairy production comes from Quebec and the quotas keep moving there.

Meanwhile, prairie provinces with massive agricultural industries can't diversify further into dairy, eggs or poultry due to quota limitations. It's just one more way the East is screwing the West in Canada. Equalization is just the easier one to see.

It's hard to say if anything will pacify Trump. He seems to be determined to carry out a trade war no matter what Canada does. The nation could capitulate to every demand and Trump might still imposed heavy tariffs.

There's little sense giving Trump low hanging fruit to attack when he tries to leverage more from Canada on trade issues.
Canada's federal government has made supply management a hill to die on with the participation of all parties.
A high price to pay for a small number of well-heeled dairy operations in Quebec.

Cory Morgan Western Standard


There is no trade war.... there is only a fair trade deal and Canada's fair trade is non-existent according to Trump.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

caskur

We have the same problem with potato's. We over produce them so one of our farmers gives them away for free. Protecting the price, protected the industry.

I was EXTREMELY angry when our Canning places were moved overseas and so one of our pear produces ripped out a whole mature orchard of pears because there was no one to pick the fruit or some such nonsense.

I mean, who does that? Who rips out a mature tree orchard?
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

DKG

Quote from: caskur on July 21, 2025, 10:57:17 PMIt's called arsonists, fire bugs, pyromaniacs.
Precisely

DKG

Quote from: caskur on July 21, 2025, 11:13:36 PMWe have the same problem with potato's. We over produce them so one of our farmers gives them away for free. Protecting the price, protected the industry.

I was EXTREMELY angry when our Canning places were moved overseas and so one of our pear produces ripped out a whole mature orchard of pears because there was no one to pick the fruit or some such nonsense.

I mean, who does that? Who rips out a mature tree orchard?
I'd have to know more about it to say if it's like our dairy management supply system. Canadians pay between three and four times what Americans do for milk, cheese and ice cream.

Most of our dairy farms are in Quebec and Quebec gets whatever it wants no matter the cost to the rest of the country.

Shen Li

in 2024 142,000 British Columbians left the waiting room because the wait was too long. That's an 86% increase from the NDP's first year in office.