Sometimes, rarely...govts. do get it right...

[Obvious Li]

'go-to-work-sick' and that will be the reality," said Benson. "This government is telling their employees you have sick leave in your collective agreements and we are going to take it and you can go to work sick, be less productive and make everyone else sick and if you don't go to work, then by God, you won't be able to feed your children."



Benson said the government also expects public servants who borrow sick-leave credits because they don't have enough banked leave when they fall ill to repay that advance later.



Under the existing contract, public servants can bank unused leave and roll it over year-to-year; bureaucrats have socked away thousands of hours over the years. The five days of sick leave the government is now proposing cannot be accumulated and carried over. Any unused days will disappear at the end of the year.



The government calls for an unpaid, seven "calendar day" waiting period which kicks in after public servants use all their allotted sick leave. After the waiting period, employees would be eligible to apply for short-term disability which pays benefits for up to 26 weeks.



Under the proposal, if they qualify for short-term disability, public servants can collect full pay for four weeks. Pay drops to 70% for the remainder of the 26 weeks.



Employees who are still unable to return to work after 130 days on short-term disability will then go on long-term disability.



With the government's demands tabled, the pressure is on at the bargaining table. The government wants the new short-term disability plan up and running by September, 2016.



Collective bargaining has been underway for months as union and Treasury Board negotiators traded demands but the government hadn't reveal its position on sick leave, its top priority in this round of bargaining, until now.



PSAC is the first union to receive the proposal and Benson said she will meet with leaders of the other 16 unions to update them and discuss next steps in bargaining.



Although the various unions negotiate with the government separately from each other, the unions have signed a "solidarity" pact to present a common front on sick leave.



Treasury Board President Tony Clement has so far shown no openness to the union's position that the existing system should be fixed rather than scrapped and replaced with a new short-term disability plan.



He originally said he was open to their input and the main reason for the government's delay in unveiling its position was unions' refusal to participate in "informal" discussions – which were to be held outside the collective bargaining process – to confer on the broad shape of the new short-term and long-term disability plans that will replace the existing banked sick-leave regime.



Clement said once the unions "categorically' rejected his offer for discussions, Treasury Board was forced "back to the drawing board'' to draft its own proposal without their input.





now if they would just fire about 200 000 of these shit bags...that would be the icing on the cake....

[Anonymous]

'go-to-work-sick' and that will be the reality," said Benson. "This government is telling their employees you have sick leave in your collective agreements and we are going to take it and you can go to work sick, be less productive and make everyone else sick and if you don't go to work, then by God, you won't be able to feed your children."



Benson said the government also expects public servants who borrow sick-leave credits because they don't have enough banked leave when they fall ill to repay that advance later.



Under the existing contract, public servants can bank unused leave and roll it over year-to-year; bureaucrats have socked away thousands of hours over the years. The five days of sick leave the government is now proposing cannot be accumulated and carried over. Any unused days will disappear at the end of the year.



The government calls for an unpaid, seven "calendar day" waiting period which kicks in after public servants use all their allotted sick leave. After the waiting period, employees would be eligible to apply for short-term disability which pays benefits for up to 26 weeks.



Under the proposal, if they qualify for short-term disability, public servants can collect full pay for four weeks. Pay drops to 70% for the remainder of the 26 weeks.



Employees who are still unable to return to work after 130 days on short-term disability will then go on long-term disability.



With the government's demands tabled, the pressure is on at the bargaining table. The government wants the new short-term disability plan up and running by September, 2016.



Collective bargaining has been underway for months as union and Treasury Board negotiators traded demands but the government hadn't reveal its position on sick leave, its top priority in this round of bargaining, until now.



PSAC is the first union to receive the proposal and Benson said she will meet with leaders of the other 16 unions to update them and discuss next steps in bargaining.



Although the various unions negotiate with the government separately from each other, the unions have signed a "solidarity" pact to present a common front on sick leave.



Treasury Board President Tony Clement has so far shown no openness to the union's position that the existing system should be fixed rather than scrapped and replaced with a new short-term disability plan.



He originally said he was open to their input and the main reason for the government's delay in unveiling its position was unions' refusal to participate in "informal" discussions – which were to be held outside the collective bargaining process – to confer on the broad shape of the new short-term and long-term disability plans that will replace the existing banked sick-leave regime.



Clement said once the unions "categorically' rejected his offer for discussions, Treasury Board was forced "back to the drawing board'' to draft its own proposal without their input.





now if they would just fire about 200 000 of these shit bags...that would be the icing on the cake....

I thought Shen Li or yourself already had a thread on this?

[Anonymous]

'go-to-work-sick' and that will be the reality," said Benson. "This government is telling their employees you have sick leave in your collective agreements and we are going to take it and you can go to work sick, be less productive and make everyone else sick and if you don't go to work, then by God, you won't be able to feed your children."



Benson said the government also expects public servants who borrow sick-leave credits because they don't have enough banked leave when they fall ill to repay that advance later.



Under the existing contract, public servants can bank unused leave and roll it over year-to-year; bureaucrats have socked away thousands of hours over the years. The five days of sick leave the government is now proposing cannot be accumulated and carried over. Any unused days will disappear at the end of the year.



The government calls for an unpaid, seven "calendar day" waiting period which kicks in after public servants use all their allotted sick leave. After the waiting period, employees would be eligible to apply for short-term disability which pays benefits for up to 26 weeks.



Under the proposal, if they qualify for short-term disability, public servants can collect full pay for four weeks. Pay drops to 70% for the remainder of the 26 weeks.



Employees who are still unable to return to work after 130 days on short-term disability will then go on long-term disability.



With the government's demands tabled, the pressure is on at the bargaining table. The government wants the new short-term disability plan up and running by September, 2016.



Collective bargaining has been underway for months as union and Treasury Board negotiators traded demands but the government hadn't reveal its position on sick leave, its top priority in this round of bargaining, until now.



PSAC is the first union to receive the proposal and Benson said she will meet with leaders of the other 16 unions to update them and discuss next steps in bargaining.



Although the various unions negotiate with the government separately from each other, the unions have signed a "solidarity" pact to present a common front on sick leave.



Treasury Board President Tony Clement has so far shown no openness to the union's position that the existing system should be fixed rather than scrapped and replaced with a new short-term disability plan.



He originally said he was open to their input and the main reason for the government's delay in unveiling its position was unions' refusal to participate in "informal" discussions – which were to be held outside the collective bargaining process – to confer on the broad shape of the new short-term and long-term disability plans that will replace the existing banked sick-leave regime.



Clement said once the unions "categorically' rejected his offer for discussions, Treasury Board was forced "back to the drawing board'' to draft its own proposal without their input.





now if they would just fire about 200 000 of these shit bags...that would be the icing on the cake....

The Tories will lose the next election and the Paris Hilton of Canadian politics(baby Trudeau) WILL be our next PM. However, kudos to Clement/Harper and the late Jim Flaherty for being perhaps the best governed nation throughout the global economic meltdown.

[Obvious Li]

'go-to-work-sick' and that will be the reality," said Benson. "This government is telling their employees you have sick leave in your collective agreements and we are going to take it and you can go to work sick, be less productive and make everyone else sick and if you don't go to work, then by God, you won't be able to feed your children."



Benson said the government also expects public servants who borrow sick-leave credits because they don't have enough banked leave when they fall ill to repay that advance later.



Under the existing contract, public servants can bank unused leave and roll it over year-to-year; bureaucrats have socked away thousands of hours over the years. The five days of sick leave the government is now proposing cannot be accumulated and carried over. Any unused days will disappear at the end of the year.



The government calls for an unpaid, seven "calendar day" waiting period which kicks in after public servants use all their allotted sick leave. After the waiting period, employees would be eligible to apply for short-term disability which pays benefits for up to 26 weeks.



Under the proposal, if they qualify for short-term disability, public servants can collect full pay for four weeks. Pay drops to 70% for the remainder of the 26 weeks.



Employees who are still unable to return to work after 130 days on short-term disability will then go on long-term disability.



With the government's demands tabled, the pressure is on at the bargaining table. The government wants the new short-term disability plan up and running by September, 2016.



Collective bargaining has been underway for months as union and Treasury Board negotiators traded demands but the government hadn't reveal its position on sick leave, its top priority in this round of bargaining, until now.



PSAC is the first union to receive the proposal and Benson said she will meet with leaders of the other 16 unions to update them and discuss next steps in bargaining.



Although the various unions negotiate with the government separately from each other, the unions have signed a "solidarity" pact to present a common front on sick leave.



Treasury Board President Tony Clement has so far shown no openness to the union's position that the existing system should be fixed rather than scrapped and replaced with a new short-term disability plan.



He originally said he was open to their input and the main reason for the government's delay in unveiling its position was unions' refusal to participate in "informal" discussions – which were to be held outside the collective bargaining process – to confer on the broad shape of the new short-term and long-term disability plans that will replace the existing banked sick-leave regime.



Clement said once the unions "categorically' rejected his offer for discussions, Treasury Board was forced "back to the drawing board'' to draft its own proposal without their input.





now if they would just fire about 200 000 of these shit bags...that would be the icing on the cake....

The Tories will lose the next election and the Paris Hilton of Canadian politics(baby Trudeau) WILL be our next PM. However, kudos to Clement/Harper and the late Jim Flaherty for being perhaps the best governed nation throughout the global economic meltdown.

agreed.....Harper is gonna lose.....Trudeau will revert to the tried and true liberal borrow and spend philosophy...works every time to get the sheeple vote..... :ugeek:

[Anonymous]

agreed.....Harper is gonna lose.....Trudeau will revert to the tried and true liberal borrow and spend philosophy...works every time to get the sheeple vote..... :ugeek:

It amazes me the double standards that Harper and Obongo receive from the press. Obama's record on the economy in response to the recession compared to Harper's has been a joke. I realize you can't compare some unqualified community organizer to a trained economist like Harper, but still it bothers me that Obama with his mediocre economic record is given a free pass while Harper's superior performance is heavily scrutinized.

[Obvious Li]

agreed.....Harper is gonna lose.....Trudeau will revert to the tried and true liberal borrow and spend philosophy...works every time to get the sheeple vote..... :ugeek:

It amazes me the double standards that Harper and Obongo receive from the press. Obama's record on the economy in response to the recession compared to Harper's has been a joke. I realize you can't compare some unqualified community organizer to a trained economist like Harper, but still it bothers me that Obama with weak economic record is given a free pass while Harper's superior performance has not.

the main stream media is generally lazy, liberal, stupid and full of harper haters.....they don't just dislike him they HATE him, viscerally, openly and collectively....it is really a quite sad state of affairs for the press and freedom of speech in general in this country.....they have zero credibility anymore

[Anonymous]

the main stream media is generally lazy, liberal, stupid and full of harper haters.....they don't just dislike him they HATE him, viscerally, openly and collectively....it is really a quite sad state of affairs for the press and freedom of speech in general in this country.....they have zero credibility anymore

I remember 2004 because it was the first election I was old enough to vote in. I remember the Martin Liberals were running ads accusing the Tories of having some "hidden" agenda. I was young and naive then and the scare tactics worked....I voted for Martin.



My Daddy has been a strong Reform Party/Canadian Alliance/new Conservative supporter since we landed in Canada. Needless to say, he was not too impressed his only child fell for that smear campaign.