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NDP bill would prescribe jail terms for speaking well of fossil fuels

Started by Brent, February 07, 2024, 06:52:26 PM

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Brent

Charlie Angus should never get on a flight again.

QuoteC-372, also known as the Fossil Fuel Advertising Act, was tabled Monday as a private member's bill by Charlie Angus, the MP for Timmins-James Bay and a longtime member of the NDP caucus.

"Today, I am proud to rise and introduce a bill that would make illegal false advertising by the oil and gas industry," Angus announced in the House of Commons.

He added that the oil and gas sector was trafficking in "disinformation" and "killing people." Angus also twice framed his bill as the dawn of the industry's "big tobacco moment" — an apparent reference to Canada's blanket federal ban on tobacco advertising.

But C-372 goes well beyond merely banning advertising by oil and gas companies.

As a private member's bill introduced by the member of a party with only 25 seats in the House of Commons, Bill C-372 has almost zero chance of passing. But as written, the act would technically apply to any Canadian who is found to be speaking well of the oil industry, or of oil generally.

"It is prohibited for a person to promote a fossil fuel, a fossil fuel-related brand element or the production of a fossil fuel," reads the act.

Violate this as a regular citizen, and the act prescribes summary conviction and a fine of up to $500,000. Violate it as an oil company, and the punishment could be as strict as two years in jail or a fine of $1,000,000.

Angus defines "promotion" so broadly that it could technically apply to something as simple as a Facebook post or even an "I Love Canadian Oil and Gas" bumper sticker.

Promotion, according to Bill C-372, means "‍a representation about a product or service by any means ... that is likely to influence and shape attitudes, beliefs and behaviours about the product or service.�"

The act also criminalizes a laundry list of common pro-oil and gas arguments, even ones that have a reliable basis in fact.

Section 8 of the act makes it a crime for "a person" to argue that a fossil fuel is "less harmful than other fossil fuels."

Natural gas, for instance, generates energy with far fewer emissions or pollutants than diesel, coal, bunker fuel or any number of "dirtier" fuels. This is why the federal government taxes natural gas at a lower benchmark than higher-emission fuels.

Nevertheless, according to C-372, anybody making such an argument should face a jail term of up to two years or a "fine not exceeding $500,000."
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/ndp-bill-jail-terms-fossil-fuels

Lokmar

Quote from: Brent on February 07, 2024, 06:52:26 PMCharlie Angus should never get on a flight again.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/ndp-bill-jail-terms-fossil-fuels

"It is prohibited for a person to promote a fossil fuel, a fossil fuel-related brand element or the production of a fossil fuel," reads the act.

That fucking asshole needs flayed alive...and I VERY rarely advocate for torture.

Another good example of how superior America's form of government is. This would be tossed out on legal grounds so fucking fast, it would make your head spin.

Thiel

The extreme left wants to eliminate the products that are responsible for extending human lives.

Petrochemicals greatly reduce the risk of nosocomial infections, which are infections caught from pathogens from other patients, hospital food, and insufficiently sterile conditions. Doctors and nurses wash their hands (a lot) using petroleum-based detergents. Even hand sanitizer contains petrochemicals, in the form of carbomer polymers and glycerin. Disposable gloves are made of latex, vinyl, and nitrile – all petrochemicals. Disposable syringes, bags that hold blood and saline, and tubing are all made of plastic. Disposable masks, intended to reduce infection of both patients and medical personally, often consist of synthetic polymers
gay, conservative and proud

Thiel

Quote from: Lokmar on February 07, 2024, 07:38:33 PM"It is prohibited for a person to promote a fossil fuel, a fossil fuel-related brand element or the production of a fossil fuel," reads the act.

That fucking asshole needs flayed alive...and I VERY rarely advocate for torture.

Another good example of how superior America's form of government is. This would be tossed out on legal grounds so fucking fast, it would make your head spin.
His private member's bill is not going anywhere in Canada either.
gay, conservative and proud

Lokmar

Quote from: Thiel on February 07, 2024, 07:41:59 PMHis private member's bill is not going anywhere in Canada either.

That fucker should still have a fatal "accident".

Thiel

Quote from: Lokmar on February 07, 2024, 07:42:42 PMThat fucker should still have a fatal "accident".
There would be a byelection in his riding and they would elect another equally extreme member of the NDP.
gay, conservative and proud

Brent

Quote from: Lokmar on February 07, 2024, 07:38:33 PM"It is prohibited for a person to promote a fossil fuel, a fossil fuel-related brand element or the production of a fossil fuel," reads the act.

That fucking asshole needs flayed alive...and I VERY rarely advocate for torture.

Another good example of how superior America's form of government is. This would be tossed out on legal grounds so fucking fast, it would make your head spin.
He spends a lot of time flying. His words are not saying it, but his actions are saying fossil fuels are the cat's meow.