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I Do NOT Support Canada's Involvement In Iraq

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Romero

QuoteThe 1920s British air bombing campaign in Iraq



An armed rebellion in Iraq. Debate at Westminster on how to counter the insurgency. The deployment of RAF bombers to defeat the uprising.



With British planes once again in the skies over Iraq, it sounds like a story from the last few days. But Britain first tried to exercise control over Iraq from the air in the 1920s.



One of Britain's mandates was Iraq - Mesopotamia as it was then. But welding together a new country and subjugating disparate ethnic and religious groups who felt that they had simply swapped one imperial Turkish master for another British one proved costly.



An uprising in Iraq in May 1920 united Sunni and Shia briefly against the British. It was put down, but required the deployment of more than 100,000 British and Indian troops. Thousands of Arabs were killed. Hundreds of British and Indian soldiers died. The military campaign cost Britain tens of millions of pounds - money it could not afford after the Great War.



A new way of controlling Iraq was needed, and the man who needed it most was Winston Churchill. As war secretary in Lloyd George's coalition government, Churchill had to square huge military budget cuts with British determination to maintain a grip on its mandate in Iraq.



The result became known as "aerial policing". It was a policy Churchill had first mused on in the House of Commons in March 1920, before the Iraqi uprising had even begun.



"It may be possible to effect economies during the course of the present year by holding Mesopotamia through the agency of the Air Force rather than by a military force. It has been pointed out that by your Air Force you have not to hold long lines of communications because the distance would only be one or one-and-a-half hours' flight by aeroplane. It is essential in dealing with Mesopotamia to get the military expenditure down as soon as the present critical state of affairs passes away."



http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29441383">//http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29441383

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Renee

Quote from: "Romero"
QuoteThe 1920s British air bombing campaign in Iraq



An armed rebellion in Iraq. Debate at Westminster on how to counter the insurgency. The deployment of RAF bombers to defeat the uprising.



With British planes once again in the skies over Iraq, it sounds like a story from the last few days. But Britain first tried to exercise control over Iraq from the air in the 1920s.



One of Britain's mandates was Iraq - Mesopotamia as it was then. But welding together a new country and subjugating disparate ethnic and religious groups who felt that they had simply swapped one imperial Turkish master for another British one proved costly.



An uprising in Iraq in May 1920 united Sunni and Shia briefly against the British. It was put down, but required the deployment of more than 100,000 British and Indian troops. Thousands of Arabs were killed. Hundreds of British and Indian soldiers died. The military campaign cost Britain tens of millions of pounds - money it could not afford after the Great War.



A new way of controlling Iraq was needed, and the man who needed it most was Winston Churchill. As war secretary in Lloyd George's coalition government, Churchill had to square huge military budget cuts with British determination to maintain a grip on its mandate in Iraq.



The result became known as "aerial policing". It was a policy Churchill had first mused on in the House of Commons in March 1920, before the Iraqi uprising had even begun.



"It may be possible to effect economies during the course of the present year by holding Mesopotamia through the agency of the Air Force rather than by a military force. It has been pointed out that by your Air Force you have not to hold long lines of communications because the distance would only be one or one-and-a-half hours' flight by aeroplane. It is essential in dealing with Mesopotamia to get the military expenditure down as soon as the present critical state of affairs passes away."



http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29441383">//http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29441383

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Wow Romero wants us all to understand that the strategies as well as the cost of conventional warfare haven't changed since 1920.  



Brilliant, fucking brilliant, you're a God damn genius. ac_lmfao  



But what you obviously don't get is that air power and its effectiveness has improved just a wee bit since the 1920s where bailing wire and canvas biplanes and manually thrown bombs were state of the art. ac_rollseyes
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Romero

Quote from: "Renee"Wow Romero wants us all to understand that the strategies as well as the cost of conventional warfare haven't changed since 1920.

No, my point is the West has been bombing Iraq on and off for nearly 100 years.  


Quote from: "Renee"But what you obviously don't get is that air power and its effectiveness has improved just a wee bit since the 1920s where bailing wire and canvas biplanes and manually thrown bombs were state of the art. ac_rollseyes

Tell that to the current wave of dead civilians. 18 more Iraqis killed by US airstrikes reported today.

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Give it a bit more  time. islam will  leave no alternative ... all  on its own



ISIS and 100s of other murderous misogynist islamic radical groups that exactly follow the actions and word of Mohammed  are  not  anomalies .. they are merely islam being islam



That apartment in Calgary with 12 ISIS supporters, 6 off to fight, 3 killed doing so,  is not  anomaly ... it is just an exposed "visible" tip of the iceberg. I was merely an example of what happens when the local concentration becomes high

Oh I have no doubt a clash of civilization will happen in Europe. At some point, Westerners will get the hint Islam is NOT interested in assimilating into liberal values. Instead Islam wants to destroy it.

cc

It is happening. Many are in place throughout the West .. and many more to come



Breaking News:  Serious plot hopefully completely broken in London UK - wanted to behead many in the streets



It was live report from London - Not seen it in print yet



Edit: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk/">Arrests 'may have foiled terror bid'



BBC - Four men are arrested in London as part of an ongoing investigation into Islamist-related terrorism, police say.



No surprise. It's islam, eh? Who's next up?
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc li tarte"It is happening. Many are in place throughout the West .. and many more to come



Breaking News:  Serious plot hopefully completely broken in London UK - wanted to behead many in the streets



It was live report from London - Not seen it in print yet



Edit: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk/">Arrests 'may have foiled terror bid'



BBC - Four men are arrested in London as part of an ongoing investigation into Islamist-related terrorism, police say.



No surprise. It's islam, eh? Who's next up?

Good for the British police stopping this horrific plot.