69% Say Revoke Citizenship For Those Who Fight Abroad: Poll

[cc]

To some extent. The main problem is PCness ...  addressing ANYTHING that does not leave islam looking good

[Renee]

good point



That said,  your unicorn leader won't do a single thing with these nuts on your soil until the US is in rubble



 ac_smile

Tru Dat.



But I think you have to compare what O-Dipshit is doing with what the average American would want to do.



I'd be willing to bet that at least 69% of the American people want those that would leave the US to fight for Islam to be taken out in the street and shot. Revoking their citizenship would be considered a pussy-ass response.



For the most part our government is very out of step with it's people. Nowadays true Obamaites are only found in pockets of the population and many of them are so dumb and disconnected from reality that they really have no clue as to his policies on ANYTHING let alone homegrown jihadists.

[Anonymous]

good point



That said,  your unicorn leader won't do a single thing with these nuts on your soil until the US is in rubble



 ac_smile

Tru Dat.



But I think you have to compare what O-Dipshit is doing with what the average American would want to do.



I'd be willing to bet that at least 69% of the American people want those that would leave the US to fight for Islam to be taken out in the street and shot. Revoking their citizenship would be considered a pussy-ass response.



For the most part our government is very out of step with it's people. Nowadays true Obamaites are only found in pockets of the population and many of them are so dumb and disconnected from reality that they really have no clue as to his policies on ANYTHING let alone homegrown jihadists.

Sounds like the average NDP supporter. ac_razz  ac_toofunny

[Anonymous]

good point



That said,  your unicorn leader won't do a single thing with these nuts on your soil until the US is in rubble



 ac_smile

Tru Dat.



But I think you have to compare what O-Dipshit is doing with what the average American would want to do.



I'd be willing to bet that at least 69% of the American people want those that would leave the US to fight for Islam to be taken out in the street and shot. Revoking their citizenship would be considered a pussy-ass response.



For the most part our government is very out of step with it's people. Nowadays true Obamaites are only found in pockets of the population and many of them are so dumb and disconnected from reality that they really have no clue as to his policies on ANYTHING let alone homegrown jihadists.

There are very likely a significant number of Canadian citizens who would prefer to have them executed too Renee..



I doubt that was an option on the survey question though.

 ac_unsure

[Renee]

good point



That said,  your unicorn leader won't do a single thing with these nuts on your soil until the US is in rubble



 ac_smile

Tru Dat.



But I think you have to compare what O-Dipshit is doing with what the average American would want to do.



I'd be willing to bet that at least 69% of the American people want those that would leave the US to fight for Islam to be taken out in the street and shot. Revoking their citizenship would be considered a pussy-ass response.



For the most part our government is very out of step with it's people. Nowadays true Obamaites are only found in pockets of the population and many of them are so dumb and disconnected from reality that they really have no clue as to his policies on ANYTHING let alone homegrown jihadists.

There are very likely a significant number of Canadian citizens who would prefer to have them executed too Renee..



I doubt that was an option on the survey question though.

 ac_unsure

Yeah well it should have been. It would have sent the proper message.  ac_beating

[Anonymous]

^The message I would have sent if asked is a literal belief in Islam is means revoking citizenship no matter where you are born. I like the average American's ideas about what to do with Canadians who go abroad to fight with ISIS. Better yet, CC's porkboarding suggestion is better. ac_toofunny

[reel]

If I were Canadian I would be a bit disconcerted that it is only 69%.

20% didn't understand the question.



Also, there are a number of nations supplying our immigrants that still have mandatory military service.  Would be rather unfortunate if one went back for a quick visit with uncle Leroy, got drafted at the airport and then lost Cdn citizenship.  Rules like this need context and context requires politicians that don't waffle and don't wet their pants at tough decisions.

[Anonymous]

If I were Canadian I would be a bit disconcerted that it is only 69%.

20% didn't understand the question.



Also, there are a number of nations supplying our immigrants that still have mandatory military service.  Would be rather unfortunate if one went back for a quick visit with uncle Leroy, got drafted at the airport and then lost Cdn citizenship.  Rules like this need context and context requires politicians that don't waffle and don't wet their pants at tough decisions.

That would be unusual reelsy, Western politicians with balls.

[Renee]

If I were Canadian I would be a bit disconcerted that it is only 69%.

20% didn't understand the question.



Also, there are a number of nations supplying our immigrants that still have mandatory military service.  Would be rather unfortunate if one went back for a quick visit with uncle Leroy, got drafted at the airport and then lost Cdn citizenship.  Rules like this need context and context requires politicians that don't waffle and don't wet their pants at tough decisions.

A lot of the worlds social ills would be improved by strong leadership. Unfortunately in a world where politicians would rather pander for votes instead of leading, it's going to tough to accomplish.

[Anonymous]

If I were Canadian I would be a bit disconcerted that it is only 69%.

20% didn't understand the question.



Also, there are a number of nations supplying our immigrants that still have mandatory military service.  Would be rather unfortunate if one went back for a quick visit with uncle Leroy, got drafted at the airport and then lost Cdn citizenship.  Rules like this need context and context requires politicians that don't waffle and don't wet their pants at tough decisions.

A lot of the words social ills would be improved by strong leadership. Unfortunately in a world where politicians would rather pander for votes instead of leading, it's going to tough to accomplish.

That's Western democracy in action; pandering for votes instead of leading. This is the result of voting being a birthright.

[Gary Oak]

If I were Canadian I would be a bit disconcerted that it is only 69%.

20% didn't understand the question.



Also, there are a number of nations supplying our immigrants that still have mandatory military service.  Would be rather unfortunate if one went back for a quick visit with uncle Leroy, got drafted at the airport and then lost Cdn citizenship.  Rules like this need context and context requires politicians that don't waffle and don't wet their pants at tough decisions.

A lot of the worlds social ills would be improved by strong leadership. Unfortunately in a world where politicians would rather pander for votes instead of leading, it's going to tough to accomplish.

Muslims are slime.

[cc]

This is how islam plays its deadly one sided game ... it plays to win ... while we sleepwalk.



http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/article/20141104/NEWS/311040051/Retired-Marine-gets-threats-after-guarding-Canadian-war-memorial">Retired Marine gets threats after guarding Canadian war memorial



Retired Marine Maj. "Fox" Sinke says he has received threatening phone calls from Arabic speakers since he stood guard at Canada's National War Memorial last week.



But as he told police: "If they're looking for a fight, they came to the right guy."



Sinke said he received at least two phone calls on Tuesday from people who screamed at him in Arabic and then hung up.



"The only words I recognized were 'kill you,' because I've heard them before," he said.



Courage is at a premium these days. Few people are willing to take stands that might endanger them or even involve them in something "controversial."





Leftist and Islamic supremacist jihad enablers take advantage of that fear and do everything they can to render every opponent of jihad terror too  "controversial" to be heard in polite society.

Meanwhile, jihad murders make all too many people cower in fear and curtail their activities. Major Sinke is an exception. Hats off to him.

[Anonymous]

^Does anyone need anymore proof that the problem is the hateful ideology Islam itself?



BTW, Justin Trudeau will be the dumbest PM this country has ever had.

Our Canadian CF-18 jets are attacking Islamic State terrorists. But Justin Trudeau doesn't think they should.



"I know there are other things Canada could do, that other countries wouldn't be able to do just as well," he told the Sun News Network. "There's a lot of people, refugees, displaced peoples fleeing violence who are facing a very, very cold winter in the mountains. If something Canada has expertise on is how to face a winter in the mountains with the right kind of equipment."



So we shouldn't stop the terrorists from murdering thousands of Kurds, Christian Arabs and other minorities in Syria and Iraq.



We should wait until they're done, and if there's anyone left – any refugees – we should share with them our "expertise" in "how to face a winter."



How thoughtful. Trudeau wouldn't stop the terrorists. But if anyone survives, he'd give them a blanket. Actually, he'd give them our "expertise" in how to use a blanket.



It doesn't actually get that cold in Iraq and Syria. The lowest temperature ever recorded in Raqqa, the capital city of the Islamic State, is -7 C. It's actually hot over there most of the time. It's a Middle Eastern desert. They don't really need advisers telling them how to put on a sweater. They need help to stop terrorists from murdering them, beheading children and turning women into Islamic sex slaves.



Six Canadian CF-18s have been there for a week, and they are already in combat, and Canada has refuelling and reconnaissance planes too. Six hundred Canadian Forces personnel are supporting the mission. But instead of quiet pride in our forces, Trudeau has criticism.



"Canada is better than that and our forces certainly are as well," said Trudeau. What does that mean? What is better than stopping terrorists? Isn't this our military at their best? Working with an international coalition to save innocent civilians from a terrorist army?



Trudeau's explanation of his explanation was even more incoherent: "There are countries with far more aircraft to do that than Canada and they should continue."



What? Because other countries are larger than us, we should do nothing? But it's always true that other countries are larger than us – not just today, but during both world wars. Perhaps Canada shouldn't have joined in the D-Day invasion at Normandy, because the British and U.S. forces had more planes?



Maybe instead of sending soldiers to fight the Nazis, we should have sent our expertise about cold winters to Hitler's victims?



This is just the latest, stupidest comment from Trudeau about the Islamic State. But it's not his first.



At his book launch last month, Trudeau was asked by Heather Reisman what the greatest global threat facing Canada was. He answered, "Ebola" – though not a single Canadian has fallen ill to that disease.



Reisman tried again, pressing him for the second-greatest threat to Canada. Trudeau simply refused to say the word "terrorism." His answer was childish, and uninformed, and desperate. "More pandemics." He couldn't name any – he couldn't think of another disease's name, other than Ebola. That in itself is telling – he didn't even believe his own answer enough to come up with the name of this supposed national threat.



Trudeau hates using the word "terrorism" because he's courting the Muslim vote hard. He refused to call the attack on Parliament Hill terrorism, even after the Muslim extremist identity of the gunman was revealed. Only after the RCMP categorically declared it terrorism did Trudeau relent.



He saves his contempt for our armed forces. When the government first suggested joining Obama's military mission, Trudeau mocked the idea, saying the use of force was just angry old men who want to "whip out our CF-18s and show them how big they are."



That's what he thinks of our Canadian Forces, and their mission.



It's a Conservative Party slogan that Justin Trudeau just isn't up to the job, that he lacks judgment and experience.



It's a slogan that Trudeau is proving true, week after week.

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[cc]

Culturally Enriched Holland: 80% of young Muslims 18 -34 support waging jihad against unbelievers



http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/11/young-dutch-turks-radical-views-worry-mps-call-for-more-research.php/">Young Dutch Turks' radical views worry MPs, call for more research



MPs from across the political spectrum have called for more research into the attitudes of young Dutch Turks to the Islamic State, after a poll of 300 showed 80% saw nothing wrong in jihad, or holy war, against non-believers.



The research, carried out by the Motivaction group in Amsterdam, was commissioned by the Forum multicultural institute.



During a parliamentary debate on integration issues on Wednesday, Socialist, D66 and CDA MPs called for a special sitting to investigate why youths have such radical views, website nu.nl reports.

 

The survey found 90% of young Turks think those fighting against Syrian president Assad's troops are 'heroes' and half thought it would be a good thing if Dutch Muslims went to join the fight.



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http://www.thelocal.de/20141112/overnight-raids-net-eight-arrests-in-cologne-isis-terrorism">And Germany



Eight men have been arrested after investigations against them turned up evidence that they supported terrorist organisations, including Islamic State (Isis), Cologne state prosecutors announced on Wednesday.

[Anonymous]

^Muslims supporting violence is no surprise. That is what their vile ideology is all about.

In 2007, Environics conducted a survey about the attitudes of Canadian Muslims.



It showed an astonishing 12% of respondents said, if the men in the so-called "Toronto 18" terror plot had succeeded in carrying out their attacks on Canada, they would have been "at least somewhat justified."



Most pundits simply shrugged off the shocking figure.



Now, six years later, we have a worldwide survey of Muslims conducted by the prestigious PEW Foundation. The results confirm the fear of many that the radical doctrine of jihad and Islamism is gaining ground.



The most talked about statistic was the fact 90% of Muslims (including women) in Iraq, Morocco, Tunisia, Indonesia, Afghanistan and Malaysia expressed the view "a wife is always obliged to obey her husband."



However, the most disturbing finding to emerge from this face-to-face survey of more than 38,000 Muslims around the world was the near-universal desire of most Muslims in Africa, Asia and the Middle East to see sharia become "the official law of the land." (99% in Afghanistan, 84% in Pakistan, 83% in Morocco).



So what, argue those who have scant knowledge of sharia. To them I say, here is another statistic about the supporters of sharia that jumped out of the survey.



Of those Muslims who support sharia law, 85% in Egypt, 75% in Pakistan and 65% in the Palestinian Territories, support the execution of any Muslim who walks away from Islam. Even in secular Turkey, Bosnia and Russia, 15% of Muslims backing sharia supported the beheading of those who walk away from Islam.



While the current U.S. administration judges the Arab Muslim Brotherhood and its South Asian offshoot, the Jamaat-e-Islami as "moderate" and even "secular," Islamists have had a field day across the Islamic world.



On the ground they meet very feeble resistance from an often marginalized liberal Muslim opposition, be it in Cairo or Dhaka. Internationally, they can rely on a bottomless pit of petro-dollars from Gulf Arab states and the logistic support of elements within the Pakistan ISI intelligence service.



On suicide bombing, or other violence used in the name of Islam, even in the U.S., eight per cent of Muslims believe the use of violence is "often" or "sometimes" justified in order to defend Islam.



This means close to 500,000 Americans of the Islamic faith believe it is at least sometimes justifiable to use violence against the state.



In the West, instead of confronting the rise of radical political Islam, many Muslim leaders continue to play the victim card, support sharia and refuse to renounce armed jihad.



Even as eight per cent of their community in the U.S. defend the use of violence of the kind employed by the Boston bombers, community leaders keep shrugging off their responsibility to denounce it.



This is a classic example of abdicating the responsibility to denounce the doctrine of armed jihad.



Time is running out for Muslims who enjoy freedom as minorities in democratic nations like the U.S., Canada, India and much of Europe.



If they don't take a bold stand against the doctrine of jihad and vigorously support the separation of state and religion, there will be a collective backlash against Muslims across the world. And that, unfortunately, will not be a pretty sight.

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