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Caitlin Johnstone says it better than I could

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https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/us-presidential-races-hide-the-criminality


Excerpt from article:

"Whenever I talk about this stuff I get people accusing me of being defeatist and interpreting this message as a position that there's nothing anyone can do, but that's not true at all. I'm just saying the fake election ritual you've been given by the powerful and told that's how you solve your problems is not the tool for the job. You're as likely to solve your problems by voting as you are by wishing or by praying — but that doesn't mean problems can't be solved. If you thought you could cure an infection by huffing paint thinner I'd tell you that won't work either, and tell you to go see a doctor instead.

Just because the only viable candidates in any US presidential race will always be murderous empire lackeys doesn't mean things are hopeless; that's just what it looks like when you live in the heart of an empire that's held together by lies, violence and tyranny, whose behavior has too much riding on it for the powerful to allow it to be left to the will of the electorate.

Your vote won't make any difference to the behavior of the empire, but what can make a difference is taking actions every day to help pave the way toward a genuine people's uprising against the empire later on down the road. You do this by opening people's eyes to the reality that what they've been taught about their government, their nation and their world is a lie, and that the mainstream sources they've been trained to look to for information are cleverly disguised imperial propaganda services.

What we can all do as individuals right here and now is begin cultivating a habit of committing small acts of sedition. Making little paper cuts in the flesh of the beast which add up over time. You can't stop the machine by yourself, but you can sure as hell throw sand in its gears.

Giving a receptive listener some information about what's going on in the world. Creating dissident media online. Graffiti with a powerful message. Amplifying an inconvenient voice. Sharing a disruptive idea. Supporting an unauthorized cause. Organizing toward forbidden ends. Distributing eye-opening literature. Creating eye-opening literature. Creating eye-opening art. Having authentic conversations about real things with anyone who can hear you.
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formosan

Quote from: Garraty_47 on July 26, 2024, 11:05:55 AMhttps://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/us-presidential-races-hide-the-criminality


Excerpt from article:

"Whenever I talk about this stuff I get people accusing me of being defeatist and interpreting this message as a position that there's nothing anyone can do, but that's not true at all. I'm just saying the fake election ritual you've been given by the powerful and told that's how you solve your problems is not the tool for the job. You're as likely to solve your problems by voting as you are by wishing or by praying — but that doesn't mean problems can't be solved. If you thought you could cure an infection by huffing paint thinner I'd tell you that won't work either, and tell you to go see a doctor instead.

Just because the only viable candidates in any US presidential race will always be murderous empire lackeys doesn't mean things are hopeless; that's just what it looks like when you live in the heart of an empire that's held together by lies, violence and tyranny, whose behavior has too much riding on it for the powerful to allow it to be left to the will of the electorate.

Your vote won't make any difference to the behavior of the empire, but what can make a difference is taking actions every day to help pave the way toward a genuine people's uprising against the empire later on down the road. You do this by opening people's eyes to the reality that what they've been taught about their government, their nation and their world is a lie, and that the mainstream sources they've been trained to look to for information are cleverly disguised imperial propaganda services.

What we can all do as individuals right here and now is begin cultivating a habit of committing small acts of sedition. Making little paper cuts in the flesh of the beast which add up over time. You can't stop the machine by yourself, but you can sure as hell throw sand in its gears.

Giving a receptive listener some information about what's going on in the world. Creating dissident media online. Graffiti with a powerful message. Amplifying an inconvenient voice. Sharing a disruptive idea. Supporting an unauthorized cause. Organizing toward forbidden ends. Distributing eye-opening literature. Creating eye-opening literature. Creating eye-opening art. Having authentic conversations about real things with anyone who can hear you.
"
I'm in my late forties Garraty and I've only voted once in my life..

I know no politician is going to make our lives better, although one politician(Justin Trudeau) has made the lives of millions much worse.
too old to be a fashionista

Garraty_47

Quote from: formosan on July 26, 2024, 11:20:40 AMI'm in my late forties Garraty and I've only voted once in my life..

I vote regularly but I either vote for independents and 3rd party candidates or write-in someone.

Brent

Quote from: Garraty_47 on July 26, 2024, 12:16:11 PMI vote regularly but I either vote for independents and 3rd party candidates or write-in someone.
We don't have the option of writing in a name.

Garraty_47

Quote from: Brent on July 26, 2024, 12:19:55 PMWe don't have the option of writing in a name.

That's an option here but at least for presidential races they don't count unless they're on an "approved" list of write-ins. When in 2020 the democrats managed to have the Green party ticket removed from printed ballots they were still (allegedly) valid write-ins; not sure off the top of my head if that rule stands for down ballot races as well.

Not that it matters to me... in down ballot races if there isn't an independent or 3rd party candidate to select I'm gonna write-in someone anyway and fuck 'em if they don't like it.

Prof Emeritus at Fawk U

Ok, just for the record, I wouldn't agree with anyone that refers to America as "the empire".  All that does is confirm for me what kind of world view that person has.  Nuff said.
Watch what you say to me or I'll mind FAWK U.

JOE

Quote from: formosan on July 26, 2024, 11:20:40 AMI'm in my late forties Garraty and I've only voted once in my life..

I know no politician is going to make our lives better, although one politician(Justin Trudeau) has made the lives of millions much worse.

I voted for Trudeau F Fashionista but I readily admit hes a doofus completely lacking in common sense and has gotta go.

Guy didn't even follow his script but went off the deep end.

I don't care if the Liberals

Next government should cut the debt and balance the budget for the greater good.

People shouldn't expect gravy fer nothin

Biggie Smiles


JOE

#8
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 26, 2024, 06:20:13 PMThat is not surprising

...but he went way off script avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly.

It's the equivalent of Republicans who voted for George W Bush thinking they were getting a mild mannered conservative because he campaigns as a moderate and the next day it turns out he's raving lunatic & the USA is at War with every nation on the planet and it almost goes bankrupt.

Same thing.

Politicians who mislead, promise a moderate agenda but then go off the Deep end.

Biggie Smiles

Quote from: JOE on July 26, 2024, 06:56:38 PM...but he went way off script avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly.

It's the equivalent of Republicans who voted for George W Bush thinking they were getting a mild mannered conservative because he campaigns as a moderate and the next day it turns out he's raving lunatic & the USA is at War with every nation on the planet and it almost goes bankrupt.

Same thing.

Politicians who mislead, promise a moderate agenda but then go off the Deep end.

We went to war with every nation on the planet? That was pretty awesome. Did we win or were we completely destroyed?

JOE

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 26, 2024, 07:06:24 PMWe went to war with every nation on the planet? That was pretty awesome. Did we win or were we completely destroyed?

Sure felt like it.

Everyone think Trump is Extreme, but if he is then Bush made him possible.

Even many Republicans think 911 was an Inside job.

The most vocal anti-Bush haters aren't even liberals or progressives but conservatives within your own party avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly

Thiel

Quote from: JOE on July 26, 2024, 07:25:38 PMSure felt like it.

Everyone think Trump is Extreme, but if he is then Bush made him possible.

Even many Republicans think 911 was an Inside job.

The most vocal anti-Bush haters aren't even liberals or progressives but conservatives within your own party avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly
Oh Jo Jo you get so silly discussing American politics. I don't mind after we have sex, but none of these people have had sex with you. They won't be as understanding as I am.
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Thiel

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Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 26, 2024, 06:20:13 PMThat is not surprising
Jo Jo voted for Justin Trudeau because he wishes he had hair like him. I told Jo Jo not to be so self conscious about his adorable little bald spot. But, he is.
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Herman

Quote from: Thiel on July 26, 2024, 09:17:02 PMOh Jo Jo you get so silly discussing American politics. I don't mind after we have sex, but none of these people have had sex with you. They won't be as understanding as I am.
You got that right.
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JOE

#14
Quote from: Herman on July 26, 2024, 10:59:59 PMYou got that right.

Hey avatar_Herman Herm it's odd that Thiel identifies with Right Wingers and the Republican Party when they don't accept his kind at all.

eg....like in Oklahoma


That's what True Right Wing Conservatism is really like, hey Herm?
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