Never thought i would say this but.....

[Obvious Li]

this really chaps me the wrong way...who do these fuckers think they are....trying to bring in workers and not hire canadians as a matter of principle.....these are not specialists they are talking about but ordinary workers.....i am all for TFW's when needed...but to say you won't invest in Canada unless you can bring your work force with you and pay them shit wages like at home just seems completely fucked up.....my answer would have to be...don't invest here then .......go somewhere else.......see you....can we all say LEVEL PLAYING FIELD......... acc_hugz  ac_beating





Canada's immigration policies hurt bottom line, China says Add to ...



Jeff Lewis and Carrie Tait   CALGARY — The Globe and Mail  Published Monday, Nov. 17 2014, 3:00 AM EST





China's state-controlled energy firms are struggling to turn a profit in Canada in part because of the federal government's immigration laws, a senior Chinese diplomat says.



Wang Xinping, China's consul general based in Calgary, said his country's energy companies want to bring in their own employees to reduce costs. But Ottawa has been stingy in issuing work permits, he said, making it harder for Chinese companies to develop their projects.

[Anonymous]

this really chaps me the wrong way...who do these fuckers think they are....trying to bring in workers and not hire canadians as a matter of principle.....these are not specialists they are talking about but ordinary workers.....i am all for TFW's when needed...but to say you won't invest in Canada unless you can bring your work force with you and pay them shit wages like at home just seems completely fucked up.....my answer would have to be...don't invest here then .......go somewhere else.......see you....can we all say LEVEL PLAYING FIELD......... acc_hugz  ac_beating





Canada's immigration policies hurt bottom line, China says Add to ...



Jeff Lewis and Carrie Tait   CALGARY — The Globe and Mail  Published Monday, Nov. 17 2014, 3:00 AM EST





China's state-controlled energy firms are struggling to turn a profit in Canada in part because of the federal government's immigration laws, a senior Chinese diplomat says.



Wang Xinping, China's consul general based in Calgary, said his country's energy companies want to bring in their own employees to reduce costs. But Ottawa has been stingy in issuing work permits, he said, making it harder for Chinese companies to develop their projects.

I agree Obvious Li.

[Obvious Li]

this really chaps me the wrong way...who do these fuckers think they are....trying to bring in workers and not hire canadians as a matter of principle.....these are not specialists they are talking about but ordinary workers.....i am all for TFW's when needed...but to say you won't invest in Canada unless you can bring your work force with you and pay them shit wages like at home just seems completely fucked up.....my answer would have to be...don't invest here then .......go somewhere else.......see you....can we all say LEVEL PLAYING FIELD......... acc_hugz  ac_beating





Canada's immigration policies hurt bottom line, China says Add to ...



Jeff Lewis and Carrie Tait   CALGARY — The Globe and Mail  Published Monday, Nov. 17 2014, 3:00 AM EST





China's state-controlled energy firms are struggling to turn a profit in Canada in part because of the federal government's immigration laws, a senior Chinese diplomat says.



Wang Xinping, China's consul general based in Calgary, said his country's energy companies want to bring in their own employees to reduce costs. But Ottawa has been stingy in issuing work permits, he said, making it harder for Chinese companies to develop their projects.

I agree Obvious Li.

good morning cutestuff......hows Cowtown..lots of snow i hear......hahahahaha..yuck yuck

[Obvious Li]

rest of article...



"Over all, for the Chinese investors, they are not making a profit," he said in an interview at the Chinese consulate.



China sank $30-billion into Canada's energy sector between 2005 and 2012 snapping up assets. Mr. Wang concedes some of these projects are not as good as Sinopec Corp., CNOOC Ltd., and PetroChina Co. Ltd., once believed. With oil prices down 30 per cent since June, the companies want Ottawa to open the borders to help ease its troubles.



"It is very, very, difficult to get the necessary work permits for the operation and the running management of the Chinese enterprises invested here," Mr. Wang said. Alberta's market for technical experts like engineers and mid-level managers "is so expensive," he said, "and that adds to the financial burden of the companies."



Sinopec paid $4.65-billion (U.S.) to buy 9 per cent of Syncrude Canada Ltd. in 2010. A year later, it bought Calgary oil producer Daylight Energy Ltd. in a $2.1-billion deal. Despite spending billions, Ottawa has only granted Sinopec 15 working visas, according to Wenran Jiang, an expert on China and special adviser to the Alberta government's department of energy.



This number could not be verified because the federal department of Citizen and Immigration does not release such information, according to spokeswoman Sonia Lesage.



The department prohibits companies operating in Canada from hiring foreigners if there is a qualified Canadian able to the job.



"Work permit applications are considered on a case-by-case basis on the specific facts presented by the applicant in each case," she said.



China's request for immigration concessions come as it acknowledges it made some mistakes in its rush to buy assets in northern Alberta.



Nexen Inc.'s Long Lake oil sands project is well k1nown for its technological and geological troubles, and Syncrude has been underperforming for years.



"When you are making an acquisition, you suppose what you are getting is good," Mr. Wang said.



"When the situation is something like that, they think they had good assets. But sometimes – sometimes – they did not get what they thought they should get. That's also one of the difficulties the companies can have."



Mr. Wang declined to give an example.



"It is not a matter of [being] upset," he said.



"You just try to swallow the fruit. If it's sweet, it's good. If it's bitter, you have also to swallow."



China remains concerned about regulations limiting its ability to invest in the energy patch. CNOOC's $15.1-billion (U.S.) takeover of Nexen in 2012 prompted Prime Minister Stephen Harper to clamp down on investments in Canada from certain state-owned enterprises. He effectively blocked these companies from owning entire oil sands projects.



Alberta officials are now urging their federal counterparts to revisit the restrictions, which have been blamed for the sharp drop-off in foreign investment in the province's energy sector.



China has long argued its state-controlled companies adhere to free-market principles rather than Beijing's demands.



"That's why I say the SOE restriction is not wise," Mr. Wang said. "It is not right."

[Anonymous]

this really chaps me the wrong way...who do these fuckers think they are....trying to bring in workers and not hire canadians as a matter of principle.....these are not specialists they are talking about but ordinary workers.....i am all for TFW's when needed...but to say you won't invest in Canada unless you can bring your work force with you and pay them shit wages like at home just seems completely fucked up.....my answer would have to be...don't invest here then .......go somewhere else.......see you....can we all say LEVEL PLAYING FIELD......... acc_hugz  ac_beating





Canada's immigration policies hurt bottom line, China says Add to ...



Jeff Lewis and Carrie Tait   CALGARY — The Globe and Mail  Published Monday, Nov. 17 2014, 3:00 AM EST





China's state-controlled energy firms are struggling to turn a profit in Canada in part because of the federal government's immigration laws, a senior Chinese diplomat says.



Wang Xinping, China's consul general based in Calgary, said his country's energy companies want to bring in their own employees to reduce costs. But Ottawa has been stingy in issuing work permits, he said, making it harder for Chinese companies to develop their projects.

I agree Obvious Li.

good morning cutestuff......hows Cowtown..lots of snow i hear......hahahahaha..yuck yuck

The city is good, but winter is here like you said..



Have a wonderful day.

 ac_smile

[RW]

this really chaps me the wrong way...who do these fuckers think they are....trying to bring in workers and not hire canadians as a matter of principle.....these are not specialists they are talking about but ordinary workers.....i am all for TFW's when needed...but to say you won't invest in Canada unless you can bring your work force with you and pay them shit wages like at home just seems completely fucked up.....my answer would have to be...don't invest here then .......go somewhere else.......see you....can we all say LEVEL PLAYING FIELD......... acc_hugz  ac_beating





Canada's immigration policies hurt bottom line, China says Add to ...



Jeff Lewis and Carrie Tait   CALGARY — The Globe and Mail  Published Monday, Nov. 17 2014, 3:00 AM EST





China's state-controlled energy firms are struggling to turn a profit in Canada in part because of the federal government's immigration laws, a senior Chinese diplomat says.



Wang Xinping, China's consul general based in Calgary, said his country's energy companies want to bring in their own employees to reduce costs. But Ottawa has been stingy in issuing work permits, he said, making it harder for Chinese companies to develop their projects.

Don't fight the leftie inside of you OL.

[Frost]

rest of article...



"Over all, for the Chinese investors, they are not making a profit," he said in an interview at the Chinese consulate.



China sank $30-billion into Canada's energy sector between 2005 and 2012 snapping up assets. Mr. Wang concedes some of these projects are not as good as Sinopec Corp., CNOOC Ltd., and PetroChina Co. Ltd., once believed. With oil prices down 30 per cent since June, the companies want Ottawa to open the borders to help ease its troubles.



"It is very, very, difficult to get the necessary work permits for the operation and the running management of the Chinese enterprises invested here," Mr. Wang said. Alberta's market for technical experts like engineers and mid-level managers "is so expensive," he said, "and that adds to the financial burden of the companies."



Sinopec paid $4.65-billion (U.S.) to buy 9 per cent of Syncrude Canada Ltd. in 2010. A year later, it bought Calgary oil producer Daylight Energy Ltd. in a $2.1-billion deal. Despite spending billions, Ottawa has only granted Sinopec 15 working visas, according to Wenran Jiang, an expert on China and special adviser to the Alberta government's department of energy.



This number could not be verified because the federal department of Citizen and Immigration does not release such information, according to spokeswoman Sonia Lesage.



The department prohibits companies operating in Canada from hiring foreigners if there is a qualified Canadian able to the job.



"Work permit applications are considered on a case-by-case basis on the specific facts presented by the applicant in each case," she said.



China's request for immigration concessions come as it acknowledges it made some mistakes in its rush to buy assets in northern Alberta.



Nexen Inc.'s Long Lake oil sands project is well k1nown for its technological and geological troubles, and Syncrude has been underperforming for years.



"When you are making an acquisition, you suppose what you are getting is good," Mr. Wang said.



"When the situation is something like that, they think they had good assets. But sometimes – sometimes – they did not get what they thought they should get. That's also one of the difficulties the companies can have."



Mr. Wang declined to give an example.



"It is not a matter of [being] upset," he said.



"You just try to swallow the fruit. If it's sweet, it's good. If it's bitter, you have also to swallow."



China remains concerned about regulations limiting its ability to invest in the energy patch. CNOOC's $15.1-billion (U.S.) takeover of Nexen in 2012 prompted Prime Minister Stephen Harper to clamp down on investments in Canada from certain state-owned enterprises. He effectively blocked these companies from owning entire oil sands projects.



Alberta officials are now urging their federal counterparts to revisit the restrictions, which have been blamed for the sharp drop-off in foreign investment in the province's energy sector.



China has long argued its state-controlled companies adhere to free-market principles rather than Beijing's demands.



"That's why I say the SOE restriction is not wise," Mr. Wang said. "It is not right."

Me thinks they should sack a few management, and sell off their holdings. They made an investment without thinking of work cost in Canada, and regulations.

They should use Canadian workers in on Canadian soil for the average job that is, and invest on the people as well as the company's.

[Anonymous]

^It's not ALL about the bottom line with Chinese companies Frosty. China is a major investor in Africa. Even though African workers would be cheaper than Chinese expats, we often still prefer to hire our own.

[Obvious Li]

^It's not ALL about the bottom line with Chinese companies Frosty. China is a major investor in Africa. Even though African workers would be cheaper than Chinese expats, we often still prefer to hire our own.

that may be princess......why would you want to bring with you, the workers that make such god awful quality products at home to a place where they make passable shit...if it wasn't for the wages......my gut is telling me this is a bad idea........i predict any new trade negotiations will have clauses requested by the chinese to allow worker mobility as part of the agreement...... acc_devil  acc_devil  acc_devil  acc_devil  acc_devil

[Anonymous]

^It's not ALL about the bottom line with Chinese companies Frosty. China is a major investor in Africa. Even though African workers would be cheaper than Chinese expats, we often still prefer to hire our own.

that may be princess......why would you want to bring with you, the workers that make such god awful quality products at home to a place where they make passable shit...if it wasn't for the wages......my gut is telling me this is a bad idea........i predict any new trade negotiations will have clauses requested by the chinese to allow worker mobility as part of the agreement...... acc_devil  acc_devil  acc_devil  acc_devil  acc_devil

China is carrying on a tradition of discriminating against Africans in Africa that the Japanese, Koreans and Taiwan companies have done earlier. However, they are TRYING to do that here and that is completely unacceptable. ac_beating

[Anonymous]

^It's not ALL about the bottom line with Chinese companies Frosty. China is a major investor in Africa. Even though African workers would be cheaper than Chinese expats, we often still prefer to hire our own.

Japan was infamous in the past for not wanting to hire locals for management positions in the countries they invested in..



I don't if they still are so discriminatory today?

[reel]

This is causing some major grief to those of us who need actually need to bring in TFWs for legitimate reasons as the govt. tightens rules to prevent it.



I need to bring in a couple of them to train Canadians to do the job and it's a nightmare with large risks and delays as a result of the new policies.

[Anonymous]

This is causing some major grief to those of us who need actually need to bring in TFWs for legitimate reasons as the govt. tightens rules to prevent it.



I need to bring in a couple of them to train Canadians to do the job and it's a nightmare with large risks and delays as a result of the new policies.

I have wrote about this problem in the past. We are experiencing the same problem in my company. We legitimately need a few TFW's, but the changing visa policies are giving us headaches. Punishing everyone for the mistakes of some.