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VP nominee JD Vance Hostile to Wall Street

Started by JOE, July 20, 2024, 09:27:21 PM

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JOE

...not that anyone really adores Wall Street anyway.

Theres probably more haters especially on conservative Main Street America since theyve been screwed over by them in the past.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/20/business/wall-street-republicans-trump-jd-vance.html

The financial world's heavy hitters fear being marginalized in Washington after former President Trump chose a running mate openly hostile to Wall Street.

It's a bad time to be a finance billionaire. Well, in Washington, D.C., anyway.

Republicans on Wall Street, who had been largely coalescing around former President Donald J. Trump's efforts to return to office, suffered outright repudiation this week with his pick of Senator JD Vance of Ohio as a running mate. Mr. Vance, a harsh critic of corporate interests and a former venture capitalist, solidified a feeling in the world of high finance that the balance of power in the party had suddenly shifted westward to Silicon Valley.

In choosing Mr. Vance, Mr. Trump brushed off personal entreaties from some of the Republican Party's biggest donors. Those financiers preferred Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, Governor Doug Burgum of North Dakota or Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina, all reliable supporters of traditional rightward causes like corporate tax cuts, freewheeling trade policies and internationalism writ large.

Mr. Vance, by comparison, has built a political brand as an antagonist of the financial elite by criticizing business tax breaks, talking up the costs of global trade, embracing cryptocurrency, and opposing diversity initiatives that are popular across corporate America.

While accepting his nomination on Wednesday at the Republican convention in Milwaukee, he said the party was done "catering to Wall Street."

That line and several others in Mr. Vance's speech cast Wall Street's titans as villains. It was a clear sign to many financiers at the convention and those watching at home that the party is no longer a clear ally, according to interviews with nearly two dozen investors, ex-government officials and advisers to donors of both parties.

Mr. Trump and Mr. Vance standing side by side in blue suits.
Mr. Trump's pick of Mr. Vance was a repudiation of the conservative donors on Wall Street.Credit...Haiyun Jiang for The New York Times

"Populism is on the rise in the Republican Party," said Eric Cantor, a former Republican House majority leader who is vice chairman at the investment bank Moelis & Company. It means "individuals and the high paid executives on Wall Street" were not playing a central role in the election, he said in an interview.

It's a new and uncomfortable position for the finance set, which for decades enjoyed access and political sway in administrations of both parties. Either they slink back to a candidate they have savaged publicly and privately, or risk being shut out no matter who wins the White House in November.

"The influence of classic bankers just isn't here," said Rob Collins, the founder of Coign, an upstart credit-card company that markets its products to conservatives, in an interview from the convention.

The choice of Mr. Vance was a pointed rebuke of top Republican donors, including the hedge-fund titan Kenneth Griffin, who opposed the senator's nomination right up until the hours before Mr. Trump's announcement, according to two people briefed on his efforts. The billionaire investor Paul Singer, in a recent dinner with Mr. Trump, suggested several vice-presidential candidates, none of them Mr. Vance, said one person familiar with the discussion.

"Nobody dangled or held back or conditioned any contribution or endorsement based on the choice of a vice president," said Susie Wiles, a spokeswoman for the Trump campaign.

Propelled by enthusiasm from Silicon Valley and Tesla chief executive Elon Musk, however, Mr. Trump chose Mr. Vance anyway

"President Trump had many good choices for vice president, and I appreciate the thoughtful deliberations of the president and his team," Mr. Griffin said in a statement.

Wall Street financiers have been heavy donors to both parties, and often take high-level roles in the government when they leave banking. For part of Mr. Trump's term, Gary Cohn, the former Goldman Sachs president and chief operating officer, served as a top economic adviser. The former Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin was also an alumnus of the bank — the latest in a procession of century-long overlap between public and private industry that earned the term "Government Sachs."

They brought with them a view that global competition wasn't just good for big business but for consumers at all income levels, as it helped drive down the cost of goods and ultimately increased the standard of living for all.
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Eric Cantor, managing director of Moelis & Co., in London, last year.Credit...Chris Ratcliffe/Bloomberg

But, said Jay Clayton, a lawyer who represented some of the world's biggest financial institutions and was head of the Securities and Exchange Commission in the Trump administration, it is time to "question whether the traditional economic view of the last decades" was the right one for the party.

Mr. Trump can still boast of a cadre of Wall Street supporters: Billionaire investor John Paulson hosted an event for Mr. Trump in April that raised more than $50 million and included some financiers, including Nelson Peltz of the hedge fund Trian Partners. Steve Schwarzman, the billionaire chief executive of the Blackstone Group, has separately said he's backing Mr. Trump.

But Mr. Vance has been embraced by the technology and cryptocurrency worlds. Mr. Musk, who lobbied for Mr. Vance's pick, is expected to donate to at least one outside group supporting the Republican ticket. Others who encouraged Mr. Trump to choose Mr. Vance as a running mate include Chamath Palihapitiya, the investor, and David Sacks, an entrepreneur.

Meanwhile, President Biden is not winning many converts from the right-leaning financial world with his recent embrace of a nationwide cap in rents, statements that they see as antagonistic to big business, and high profile support from Senator Bernie Sanders and other well-known liberals, several people said.

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Many said they expect that Trump would remain friendly to business interests and include an extension of the corporate tax cuts signed in his first term and scheduled to expire next year. Mr. Trump said an interview published this week that he still favors lowering the rate, which Mr. Vance opposed before he was nominated.

Even some of those who were spurned by Mr. Trump's choice continue to donate heavily to Senate and gubernatorial races.

And they are finding other uses for their cash.

Mr. Griffin, who has told associates he could give as much as $100 million to Republicans but hasn't decided whether any of that will go to Mr. Trump's campaign, earlier this week opened up his checkbook to buy a $45 million fossil of a Stegosaurus at auction.

Maureen Farrell writes about Wall Street, focusing on private equity, hedge funds and billionaires and how they influence the world of investing. More about Maureen Farrell

Rob Copeland is a finance reporter, writing about Wall Street and the banking industry. More about Rob Copeland
A version of this article appears in print on July 21, 2024, Section A, Page 16 of the New York edition with the headline: Wall Street Titans Feel a Loss in Clout in the New Republican Party. Order Reprints | Today's Paper | Subscribe
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Shen Li

Can one of the Americans explain why anybody is offended over Vance's Diet Mountain Dew comment? I mean besides Dems being thin-skinned and always looking for an offending word.

Shen Li

I thought he might have been poking fun at an Appalachian stereotype.

Oliver the Second


FUCK WALL STREET


Good movie, catch it if you get a chance


Prof Emeritus at Fawk U

I'd gladly play my violin for the Wall Streeters, but its in the shop getting re-strung.
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Oliver the Second


formosan

Quote from: Oliver the Second on August 02, 2024, 11:12:37 AMDow Jones -907.92 points


It had been doing pretty well recently..

Do you know why there's a big sell off Oliver?
too old to be a fashionista

Oliver the Second

Quote from: formosan on August 02, 2024, 12:04:04 PMIt had been doing pretty well recently..

Do you know why there's a big sell off Oliver?


Turmoil in the middle east, riots in England, riots in Venezuela and Nigeria, the US election coming up... it's all spooking the market as Wall Street hates uncertainty. Plus traders figure it's been on a good run for a while now so it's a good time for some profit taking.

formosan

Quote from: Oliver the Second on August 02, 2024, 05:24:24 PMTurmoil in the middle east, riots in England, riots in Venezuela and Nigeria, the US election coming up... it's all spooking the market as Wall Street hates uncertainty. Plus traders figure it's been on a good run for a while now so it's a good time for some profit taking.
I see Oliver, thank you.
too old to be a fashionista

Brent

I am really liking JD Vance. He is a champion of the working class.

Biggie Smiles

Trump and Vance must resist the inclination to meet the democrat scum on their own low ground. For it is on such low ground the democrats feel and do have the advantage.

If I were Trump I would ignore entirely the subject of her being black. Whether or not it demostrats her lack of character is inconsequential. Any one who cannot see by now that she lacks character lacks character themselves and that is NOT the audience you are looking to reach.

When asked if Kamoron is blue, blue, green or inbetween the answer should be "I don't know what her ethic background is or was. What I do know about her background is that she was appointed the border czar and since that appointment we've had a flooding of illegal aliens like never before. In any other professional context that would be an offense worthy of termination, not promotion."

keep the high ground bro. Because every minute you waste discussing her nationality is a minute you are NOT talking about her tapestry of failures in a variety of functions.

Smarten up guys.