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University vs skilled trades

Started by DKG, October 11, 2024, 11:22:15 AM

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Mark P. Mills, a senior fellow at the Texas Public Policy Foundation wrote a fascinating report on the future of the American economy:

The quickly settled International Longshoremen's Association strike takes us one more step toward the Great Inversion: a future in which people in the skilled and semi-skilled trades boast higher average wages than most college graduates. If the justification for most college degrees — only 10 percent of them in STEM fields — reduces to their boosting future earning power, then those graduates will have a problem. (Granted: a college education should be about more than just maximizing earnings.)

It has escaped no one's attention that the settlement with the longshoremen's union will bump up annual starting salaries to about $80,000, with mid-career salaries over $150,000. Both benchmarks are higher than those of 90 percent of college grads. The longshoremen's victory will likely set a market norm, not just for union members, who account for just 10 percent of the workforce, but for the skilled workforce at large. The explanation is found at the intersection of technology and demography.

JOE

Longshoremen can be a difficult occupation avatar_DKG DKG

Spoke with 1 woman I used to work with & her husband regularly worked the graveyard shift to bring home the paycheck to put a roof over their heads.

Long story short he sort of turned psychotic & he ended up beating her up on a regular basis so she finally ended up leaving him along with taking the kids with her.

Sure, they make good money but at what price? Their marriages? Their relationships? Not being able to see their children?

That's a heavy price for a paycheck

formosan

Quote from: JOE on October 11, 2024, 11:48:17 AMLongshoremen can be a difficult occupation avatar_DKG DKG

Spoke with 1 woman I used to work with & her husband regularly worked the graveyard shift to bring home the paycheck to put a roof over their heads.

Long story short he sort of turned psychotic & he ended up beating her up on a regular basis so she finally ended up leaving him along with taking the kids with her.

Sure, they make good money but at what price? Their marriages? Their relationships? Not being able to see their children?

That's a heavy price for a paycheck
lol, I don't think Seoul can see your post Joe.
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too old to be a fashionista

JOE

Quote from: formosan on October 11, 2024, 12:13:44 PMlol, I don't think Seoul can see your post Joe.
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Well I don't care F fashionista.

Didn't you say yer husband is in the trades at least somewhat?

I've met/ encountered people in the trades & it's not any easy life

Sure they make a nice paycheck- but often at the expense of their health. Their big challenge is making it to retirement age in 1 piece & in good health.

Theres a reason why they get paid the big bucks cuz they need that money when they get old or disabled to take care of themselves later in life.

Lokmar


JOE

Quote from: Lokmar on October 11, 2024, 01:21:13 PMjosephine cares. FACT!!!

I've met people in the trades & their bodies often get wasted by age 60.

It's not an easy life.

Lokmar

I've met people who've died from drug overdoses. Doing drugs aint easy, josephine!

JOE

Quote from: Lokmar on October 11, 2024, 02:17:41 PMI've met people who've died from drug overdoses. Doing drugs aint easy, josephine!

A lotta people in the trades end up bein drug addicts...Lokmeer!

Its cuz they take opiates ta mask the pain from injuries they sustained on the job eh?

Lokmar

Quote from: JOE on October 11, 2024, 03:11:36 PMA lotta people in the trades end up bein drug addicts...Lokmeer!

Its cuz they take opiates ta hide the pain from injuries they sustained on the job eh?

I've also met people who've never flown on a plane before. That must be very difficult!

Brent

Quote from: formosan on October 11, 2024, 12:13:44 PMlol, I don't think Seoul can see your post Joe.
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Trying to talk with someone who has him on ignore. What a Seadummy move. :crampe:
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Brent

Quote from: DKG on October 11, 2024, 11:22:15 AMMark P. Mills, a senior fellow at the Texas Public Policy Foundation wrote a fascinating report on the future of the American economy:

The quickly settled International Longshoremen's Association strike takes us one more step toward the Great Inversion: a future in which people in the skilled and semi-skilled trades boast higher average wages than most college graduates. If the justification for most college degrees — only 10 percent of them in STEM fields — reduces to their boosting future earning power, then those graduates will have a problem. (Granted: a college education should be about more than just maximizing earnings.)

It has escaped no one's attention that the settlement with the longshoremen's union will bump up annual starting salaries to about $80,000, with mid-career salaries over $150,000. Both benchmarks are higher than those of 90 percent of college grads. The longshoremen's victory will likely set a market norm, not just for union members, who account for just 10 percent of the workforce, but for the skilled workforce at large. The explanation is found at the intersection of technology and demography.
The money is in the trades. They also have high unionization levels.

Thiel

Quote from: JOE on October 11, 2024, 12:45:56 PMWell I don't care F fashionista.
I'll talk to you Sweetie. I don't care if DKG will not.

Do you want to talk about jobs? Your chcolate coin collection? Your adorable little bald spot?

You can pick the topic honeybunch. Daddy will reply.
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gay, conservative and proud

Herman

Quote from: DKG on October 11, 2024, 11:22:15 AMMark P. Mills, a senior fellow at the Texas Public Policy Foundation wrote a fascinating report on the future of the American economy:

The quickly settled International Longshoremen's Association strike takes us one more step toward the Great Inversion: a future in which people in the skilled and semi-skilled trades boast higher average wages than most college graduates. If the justification for most college degrees — only 10 percent of them in STEM fields — reduces to their boosting future earning power, then those graduates will have a problem. (Granted: a college education should be about more than just maximizing earnings.)

It has escaped no one's attention that the settlement with the longshoremen's union will bump up annual starting salaries to about $80,000, with mid-career salaries over $150,000. Both benchmarks are higher than those of 90 percent of college grads. The longshoremen's victory will likely set a market norm, not just for union members, who account for just 10 percent of the workforce, but for the skilled workforce at large. The explanation is found at the intersection of technology and demography.
I made over three hundred grand USD a year during the peak of my career in upstream oil and gas. That is net too.

I ain't went to university. That pisses off progtard elites.

Shen Li

Let's face it, liberal arts degrees are useless. They are subsidized the same as professional degree programs like business, medicine or engineering, but unlike those majors, they offer no value to society. Unless you consider blocking major urban thoroughfares to bring attention to the climate crisis by forcing cars to idle is worth it to taxpayers.
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Shen Li

Quote from: formosan on October 11, 2024, 12:13:44 PMlol, I don't think Seoul can see your post Joe.
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I have those 2 diminutive geriatric nincompoops, Seamunchkin and The Langley Ladyboy on ignore at VF. However, when I make an appearance there(it doesn't happen that often), those 2 are gnawing on my yellow ankles.

I see them after I logout replying to my posts. Pathetic or what.
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