Chinese discourage Christmas and Western cultural influence

[Anonymous]

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Citizens, schools and even whole towns in China are attempting to curb Christmas celebrations amid a backlash against what is seen as the increasing influence of Western culture in the Communist-governed country.



Schools in the city of Wenzhou in China's Zhejiang province have been forbidden from holding any Christmas-related events, after authorities issued an official ban, according to the Global Times.  



An education official in the city, which is home to one million Chinese Christians, told the paper: "We are not suppressing Western festivals, but we hope schools can be more balanced on this. Students can learn about Western festivals but they should not be over-enthusiastic about it."



In addition, Modern College of Northwest University, located in Xian, has banned Christmas celebrations, according to reports, choosing instead to have students attend screenings of what were described as propaganda films about Confucius on Christmas Eve.



According to a Reuters report, banners were draped outside the university with slogans that read: "Strive to be outstanding sons and daughters of China, oppose kitsch Western holidays," and "Resist the expansion of Western culture."



The agency reported that a blog linked to one of the school's official Communist Party committees wrote: "In recent years, more and more Chinese have started to attach importance to Western festivals.



"In their eyes, the West is more developed than China, and they think that their holidays are more elegant than ours, even that Western festivals are very fashionable and China's traditional festivals are old fashioned."



In another protest, college students in Hunan took to the streets to protest against Christmas celebrations.



China's state-run Xinhua news agency, which is often seen as reflecting the official government line, noted that celebrating Christmas has become trendy among young Chinese, who see the festival as a time to shop, party and dine with friends, but that proponents of traditional Chinese culture have warned against cultural invasion.



China's Communist Party government is officially atheist, but there are a wide variety of religious traditions in the country, principally Taoism, Buddhism and Confucianism. The country is home, however, to an estimated 67 million Christians, according to 2010 figures from the Pew Research Center.



Some Chinese Christians say their faith has been singled out because authorities are concerned about its rapid growth in the country, and are seeking to curb its spread, according to a Japan Times report.



Ironically, despite the authorities' hostility to Christmas in China, the country manufactures 60 percent of the world's Christmas decorations, according to The Guardian.

[Gary Oak]

I believe it really says something about a country and people who resist Christmas harder than they resisted the Japanese.

[Anonymous]

I believe it really says something about a country and people who resist Christmas harder than they resisted the Japanese.

The war with Japan coincided with a civil war though Gary Oak.

[Obvious Li]

it is ironic that in China christians are numbered as high as 100 million (upper estimate) and members of the communist party number 65 million...

also unbelievable that 65 million communists totally control 1.3 billion non-communists...fascinating what intimidation and terror can do.....

[Anonymous]

it is ironic that in China christians are numbered as high as 100 million (upper estimate) and members of the communist party number 65 million...

also unbelievable that 65 million communists totally control 1.3 billion non-communists...fascinating what intimidation and terror can do.....

I find it hard to believe there are 100 million people like Fashionista in China. I have only met a few mainland Chinese as religious as she is and that was here in Canada.



As for the number of reds in China, that number is inflated too. There are few real reds left in China. They are just members of the governing party. My grandma is a member of the party, but she is not a socialist. What % of the people in Taiwan are members of the KMT?

[Anonymous]

I believe it really says something about a country and people who resist Christmas harder than they resisted the Japanese.

You can blame Jiang and Mao for that.

[Anonymous]

it is ironic that in China christians are numbered as high as 100 million (upper estimate) and members of the communist party number 65 million...

also unbelievable that 65 million communists totally control 1.3 billion non-communists...fascinating what intimidation and terror can do.....

I find it hard to believe there are 100 million people like Fashionista in China. I have only met a few mainland Chinese as religious as she is and that was here in Canada.



As for the number of reds in China, that number is inflated too. There are few real reds left in China. They are just members of the governing party. My grandma is a member of the party, but she is not a socialist. What % of the people in Taiwan are members of the KMT?

The Chinese Communist Party and the KMT have a lot in common.

[cc]

As for the number of reds in China, that number is inflated too.

Prolly true. However, they do run the country as I understand it.



We met ranking military offices when in China on business. From their actions and words I got the impression they were mainly "in name only" party folk ... more interesting in maintaining their positions than being party enthusiasts

[Anonymous]

As for the number of reds in China, that number is inflated too.

Prolly true. However, they do run the country as I understand it.



We met ranking military offices when in China on business. From their actions and words I got the impression they were mainly "in name only" party folk ... more interesting in maintaining their positions than being party enthusiasts

Definitely, name only. Communism/socialism is deader in China than any country I have ever seen in my life. Socialism is incompatible with Chinese values. Money and success is a big part of our culture.



Membership in the CCP is a good way to establish 'guanxi'. Nobody gives a fuck what they call themselves, the CCP is an extension of the dynasties. My late grandpa was a career military officer and a member of the party. He didn't know nor care what the CCP stood for as long as membership in it offered career benefits. Kinda like being a member of the Alberta PC party. ac_toofunny

[Anonymous]

As for the number of reds in China, that number is inflated too.

Prolly true. However, they do run the country as I understand it.



We met ranking military offices when in China on business. From their actions and words I got the impression they were mainly "in name only" party folk ... more interesting in maintaining their positions than being party enthusiasts

They seem different from the mainlanders that came over with Chiang Kai Shek after he lost China's civil war..



Their loyalty is to Chiang Kai Shek and his son Chiang Ching Kuo.

[Gary Oak]

I believe it really says something about a country and people who resist Christmas harder than they resisted the Japanese.

You can blame Jiang and Mao for that.

    Shen Li you stupid slut whore bitch, Mao did try to fight the Japanese. Didn't they teach history at the kindergarten you graduated from ?

[Anonymous]

I believe it really says something about a country and people who resist Christmas harder than they resisted the Japanese.

You can blame Jiang and Mao for that.

    Shen Li you stupid slut whore bitch, Mao did try to fight the Japanese. Didn't they teach history at the kindergarten you graduated from ?

^Retard alert!!



The war in China was from the beginning a three part war. The major engagements were largely between the Japanese and the Nationalists. This was largely because the Nationalists (KMT) conrolled the most valuable areas of China that the Japanese coveted. The Communists (CCP) controled Shaanxi in the northwest. This was an area of little interest to the Japanese. Thus large-scale military engagements between the Japanese were limited. The Communists did have forces and supporters in areas under nominal Japanese control. In these areas there were actions of various scale with both the Japanese and Nationalists (KMT). The KMT and CCP agreed to form a united front to fight the Japanese, but this never really worked and within a short period the KMT and CCP forces were fighting each other. The CCP forces ininiated an offensive against the Japanese (1940), but for the most part avoided major actions against the better equipped Japanese forces.

[Anonymous]

You can blame Jiang and Mao for that.

    Shen Li you stupid slut whore bitch, Mao did try to fight the Japanese. Didn't they teach history at the kindergarten you graduated from ?

^Retard alert!!



The war in China was from the beginning a three part war. The major engagements were largely between the Japanese and the Nationalists. This was largely because the Nationalists (KMT) conrolled the most valuable areas of China that the Japanese coveted. The Communists (CCP) controled Shaanxi in the northwest. This was an area of little interest to the Japanese. Thus large-scale military engagements between the Japanese were limited. The Communists did have forces and supporters in areas under nominal Japanese control. In these areas there were actions of various scale with both the Japanese and Nationalists (KMT). The KMT and CCP agreed to form a united front to fight the Japanese, but this never really worked and within a short period the KMT and CCP forces were fighting each other. The CCP forces ininiated an offensive against the Japanese (1940), but for the most part avoided major actions against the better equipped Japanese forces.

China's civil war must have made the Japanese invasion easier?

[cc]

What's your take on this one Shen?



http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2014/12/29/christians-now-outnumber-communists-in-china/">Christians Now Outnumber Communists in China



Though the Chinese Communist Party is the largest explicitly atheist organization in the world, with 85 million official members, it is now overshadowed by an estimated 100 million Christians in China. It is no wonder Beijing is nervous and authorities are cracking down on Christian groups.



Christianity is growing so fast in China that some predict that it will be the most Christian nation in the world in only another 15 years. By far, the greatest growth is coming outside the official state-sanctioned churches, which are rightly considered subservient to the Communist Party. Numbers are increasing, rather, in unofficial Protestant "house churches" and in the underground Catholic church.



"By my calculations China is destined to become the largest Christian country in the world very soon," said Fenggang Yang, a professor of sociology at Purdue University and author of Religion in China: Survival and Revival under Communist Rule.

[Anonymous]

What's your take on this one Shen?



http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2014/12/29/christians-now-outnumber-communists-in-china/">Christians Now Outnumber Communists in China



Though the Chinese Communist Party is the largest explicitly atheist organization in the world, with 85 million official members, it is now overshadowed by an estimated 100 million Christians in China. It is no wonder Beijing is nervous and authorities are cracking down on Christian groups.



Christianity is growing so fast in China that some predict that it will be the most Christian nation in the world in only another 15 years. By far, the greatest growth is coming outside the official state-sanctioned churches, which are rightly considered subservient to the Communist Party. Numbers are increasing, rather, in unofficial Protestant "house churches" and in the underground Catholic church.



"By my calculations China is destined to become the largest Christian country in the world very soon," said Fenggang Yang, a professor of sociology at Purdue University and author of Religion in China: Survival and Revival under Communist Rule.

Westerners may look at this and say aha, the end of the CCP dynasty, is at hand. However, nothing could be further from the truth. As long as wages, living standards educational and professional opportunities continue to rise, the CCP is safe.



I will tell you something about us Han Chinese, we tend to follow the power so long as it is working in our favour rather than change. This is why Singapore where about 21% of the Chinese population is Christian is still controlled by the PAP. We won't rock the boat, so long as the boat is maintaining a stable course.



The vast majority of Chinese feel over all that China is headed in the right direction. As long as those numbers are maintained we will NOT throw out a known for an unknown. Even if the number of Christians starts flirting with the 20% mark as in Singapore, we will not let religion interfere with economic progress. China will never be the deep South.

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