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Mark Carney aka Justine 2.0 is Canada's Prime Minister

Started by Herman, March 09, 2025, 06:56:47 PM

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Brent

87% of Carney's "new" cabinet is the same as Trudeau's.

He thinks Canadians are stupid. He's trying to trick us.

It's the same awful Liberal gang with the same anti working class Liberal agenda.
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Herman

My gut is that Quebec and the Maritimes will keep that sellout Carney in office after the next election. It will be a minority government with the NDP propping them up.

We could have referendums on statehood in Alberta and Saskatchewan. If we get one, I am voting yes. Canada offers sweet fuck all.

Herman


On Friday, Abacus Data released a poll showing that on every major issue — except Trump and the environment — Canadian voters favour Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives, often by a wide margin.

On cost of living, health care, housing, the economy, immigration, crime and job security/employment, voters think the Conservatives are better able to handle the issues than the Liberals by as much as 43 per cent.

They trust the Liberals more on the environment, but it's not a top issue in most voters' minds.

But when it comes to dealing with Donald Trump, the Liberals win that one 42 per cent to 28 per cent. And, more significantly, it is voters' No. 2 issue after the cost of living.

Yet when the Trump smoke has cleared, plenty of Canadian voters will have buyer's remorse. The Carney Liberals are the same as the Trudeau Liberals (and in some cases worse) on crime, the opioid crisis, lenient bail provisions, the economy, taxes, gun confiscation, immigration and a host of other issues.

Carney got rid of the consumer carbon tax on Day 1, but intends to replace it with a tax that will be just as expensive and less transparent.

The gross incompetence of the Trudeau era was not the work of just one man. It took a team of boobs to mess up that badly. And now most of Trudeau's ninnies are on Carney's team. But most voters won't realize that until it's too late.

JOE

Quote from: Herman on March 15, 2025, 02:31:08 PMMy gut is that Quebec and the Maritimes will keep that sellout Carney in office after the next election. It will be a minority government with the NDP propping them up.

We could have referendums on statehood in Alberta and Saskatchewan. If we get one, I am voting yes. Canada offers sweet fuck all.

Mark Carney's term as Canadian Prime Minister however brief will be good for Canada hey avatar_Herman Herm?
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Quote from: Brent on March 15, 2025, 12:52:58 PM87% of Carney's "new" cabinet is the same as Trudeau's.

He thinks Canadians are stupid. He's trying to trick us.

It's the same awful Liberal gang with the same anti working class Liberal agenda.

Regardless of how long he lasts as Prime Minister, Carney will be good for Canada avatar_Brent Brent

We need a solid leader like Carney at the helm, Brent.
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Quote from: Brent on March 15, 2025, 12:52:58 PM87% of Carney's "new" cabinet is the same as Trudeau's.

He thinks Canadians are stupid. He's trying to trick us.

It's the same awful Liberal gang with the same anti working class Liberal agenda.
Carney will win the election. And he will pursue the same ruinous policies as Trudeau.

However, Carney could be the last PM with Canada's current borders. I could see a 4th term of True Dope's policies leading to a referendum on US statehood in Alberta and maybe Saskatchewan.

If the US offered dollar for dollar exchange and a break on income tax plus no equalization, anybody in their right mind would vote yes. I will never live in North America again, but I would go to the Canadian embassy and vote yes and for one reason only--my investments still in Canada would get a 35% boost.

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Quote from: Shen Li on March 16, 2025, 01:47:48 AMCarney will win the election. And he will pursue the same ruinous policies as Trudeau.

However, Carney could be the last PM with Canada's current borders. I could see a 4th term of True Dope's policies leading to a referendum on US statehood in Alberta and maybe Saskatchewan.
I'll believe it only if it happens. Yes, Trump has thrown out the idea of "making Canada the 51st state" but the truth is he was likely trolling for media notoriety. He's good at doing that, media and lefties have proven pitifully eager to jump all over anything he does for the opportunity to call market him as both "dumb" and some kind of evil mastermind.

Canada is ageing out though and this includes individual provinces such as Alberta and Saskatchewan. The liberals have attempted to offset this by importing their "youth" from other nations and you only need look at Trump's efforts at the southern US border to glean how little he thinks of such a practice. I doubt he's serious about importing provinces that, while resource rich, also come with the promise of a contingent of animals dressed up like letterboxes; there's enough of them in the existing fifty states. States which yet can be mined for their existing resources.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and Canada will rapidly crash and burn as a country should one or more of the prairie provinces become US concerns. BC will lose status as a trade hub and become little better than an outpost, since any transcontinental commerce will be subject to the whims of Washington. Ottawa will pull out all the stops and make any seccessionist provinces punishingly unattractive prospects for this reason (mostly by flooding them with refugees I imagine) ahead of them actually ceding from Canada.

I'm sure the provinces in question are already aware of all this.

DKG

Quote from: . on March 16, 2025, 03:42:57 AMI'll believe it only if it happens. Yes, Trump has thrown out the idea of "making Canada the 51st state" but the truth is he was likely trolling for media notoriety. He's good at doing that, media and lefties have proven pitifully eager to jump all over anything he does for the opportunity to call market him as both "dumb" and some kind of evil mastermind.

Canada is ageing out though and this includes individual provinces such as Alberta and Saskatchewan. The liberals have attempted to offset this by importing their "youth" from other nations and you only need look at Trump's efforts at the southern US border to glean how little he thinks of such a practice. I doubt he's serious about importing provinces that, while resource rich, also come with the promise of a contingent of animals dressed up like letterboxes; there's enough of them in the existing fifty states. States which yet can be mined for their existing resources.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and Canada will rapidly crash and burn as a country should one or more of the prairie provinces become US concerns. BC will lose status as a trade hub and become little better than an outpost, since any transcontinental commerce will be subject to the whims of Washington. Ottawa will pull out all the stops and make any seccessionist provinces punishingly unattractive prospects for this reason (mostly by flooding them with refugees I imagine) ahead of them actually ceding from Canada.

I'm sure the provinces in question are already aware of all this.
Trump is not serious about annexing all of Canada. There is absolutely no advantage for the US in doing that. There are only three provinces in Canada that pull their own weight. The rest would poorer than Mississippi and make the Dems a permanent governing party like they make the Liberals here.

Trumps' goal is access to our resources through a true common market. We do not even have a common between provinces. The dust will settle after an election and if Carney forms a minority government with the NDP Canadians will be reminded that all the Liberal Party did was put lipstick on the former Trudeau government.

Alberta and Saskatchewan might vote to join the US if Carney wins. Carney, like Trudeau is controlled by ultra Green globalist Gerald Butts. The same policies that trampled provincial jurisdiction and held back those two provinces will continue under Carney. It will be interesting to see the offer Washington makes when the downward spiral that began a decade ago continues under Carney.

And Ottawa has been moving refugees from places in Ontario and Quebec to the prairies for years. That will also continue under Carney.

DKG

Mark Carney just scrapped the consumer carbon tax and promised to ramp up hidden carbon taxes on business.

Get ready to fight hidden carbon taxes on businesses.

The usual suspects will say a hidden carbon tax on businesses won't cost you money and there's nothing you can do about it anyway.

But we know hitting Canadian businesses with a hidden carbon tax means they'll pass those costs on to us.

DKG

Quote from: Brent on March 15, 2025, 12:52:58 PM87% of Carney's "new" cabinet is the same as Trudeau's.

He thinks Canadians are stupid. He's trying to trick us.

It's the same awful Liberal gang with the same anti working class Liberal agenda.
The same Liberals who:

Voted to hike the carbon tax
Double the debt
Double food bank line ups
Double housing costs
Blocked pipelines
Blocked LNG plants
Passed the anti-energy law C-69
Hiked immigration to unsustainable levels
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Quote from: DKG on March 16, 2025, 10:34:07 AMAnd Ottawa has been moving refugees from places in Ontario and Quebec to the prairies for years. That will also continue under Carney.
Yes, but that will get ramped up to levels that will astound you. Think of how the democrats ran out the government budget in the US to all but ensure the incoming Trump administration would face the almost certain government shutdown; these are petulant and vindictive people we are talking about who will do quite literally whatever it takes to fuck up anyone they perceive to be in opposition to them.

As for resources, the US already have enough, they were a net energy exporter under the first Trump administration and would have continued to be had Biden not instituted a moratorium on exploiting those resources. There's nothing in the dirt of Alberta that cannot be found across the border.

None of that being a guarantee he wouldn't of course, only that Alberta and Saskatchewan are not exactly priorities of his, in spite of his boasts to the contrary. I would think he'd be more likely to move on a deal with Greenland, especially given the strategic advantage it might afford the US in the Arctic circle. I guess we'll see.

Brent

Quote from: DKG on March 16, 2025, 10:52:12 AMThe same Liberals who:

Voted to hike the carbon tax
Double the debt
Double food bank line ups
Double housing costs
Blocked pipelines
Blocked LNG plants
Passed the anti-energy law C-69
Hiked immigration to unsustainable levels

Remember Mark Carney saying Poilievre's promise to scrap the consumer carbon tax would amount to "letting the planet burn."

But when will Carney be asked how abandoning the consumer carbon tax won't cause the planet to burn when Liberals do it, but will cause the planet to burn if Conservatives do it?

The carbon tax was never about the climate. He will double the tax on those that produce goods and services and let them pass it on to us. Taxing the working class into the poor house will continue under Carney. Probably the consumer portion too after he gets his coalition with the NDP.

Brent

Quote from: . on March 16, 2025, 11:14:00 AMYes, but that will get ramped up to levels that will astound you. Think of how the democrats ran out the government budget in the US to all but ensure the incoming Trump administration would face the almost certain government shutdown; these are petulant and vindictive people we are talking about who will do quite literally whatever it takes to fuck up anyone they perceive to be in opposition to them.

As for resources, the US already have enough, they were a net energy exporter under the first Trump administration and would have continued to be had Biden not instituted a moratorium on exploiting those resources. There's nothing in the dirt of Alberta that cannot be found across the border.

None of that being a guarantee he wouldn't of course, only that Alberta and Saskatchewan are not exactly priorities of his, in spite of his boasts to the contrary. I would think he'd be more likely to move on a deal with Greenland, especially given the strategic advantage it might afford the US in the Arctic circle. I guess we'll see.
They already have. Look at the housing shortages in cities to the West of here.

JOE

Quote from: DKG on March 16, 2025, 10:52:12 AMThe same Liberals who:

Blocked pipelines
Blocked LNG plants


That's clearly gonna change avatar_DKG DKG regardless of which party gets in.

Both Liberals and Conservatives know this & will fast track the process.

Plus Europe & Asian countries will facilitate the process.

I'm glad Carney & Polievevre are both on board.

Canada's diversifying away from the US market and that's good.

The party that accelerates the process will be best for Canada. That's the one who gets my vote, eh DKG?

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