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Biggie Smiles

Quote from: DKG on January 18, 2026, 11:14:53 PMI would not want to live in a theocracy- Christian or Islamic.
I agree. The bible calls for distinct separation between church and state and admonishes believers to hope for a Kingdom not of this world.

whereas, Islam has no such mandate and opts instead to conquer the entire world as it is today and submit it to the will of Allah. Which always translates into whatever selfish and perverse desires those who are at the top of the Caliphate happen to have at the moment.
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Quote from: DKG on January 18, 2026, 11:09:51 PMYour question assumes all Muslims are religious. There are secular Muslims just like there are secular Christians.

Secular means non- religious. Christianity is a religion. Islam is a religion.

How can you be a Christian and be non religious?

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Reggie Essent

Quote from: DKG on January 18, 2026, 11:09:51 PMYour question assumes all Muslims are religious. There are secular Muslims just like there are secular Christians.

This may be true, but one can never know since Taqiyya is a doctrine that comes right from the pages of their Koran.

You are probably correct that the majority are just secular folks that want to get along ... but you can never know.

Dove

 You cant be a non religious member of a religion

 If you are a Muslim by definition you are religious....Islam is a religion. And a political system.
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Quote from: Dove on January 18, 2026, 11:20:58 PMYou cant be a non religious member of a religion

 If you are a Muslim by definition you are religious....Islam is a religion. And a political system.
how do you explain your average catholic then?
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DKG

Quote from: Dove on January 18, 2026, 11:18:28 PMSecular means non- religious. Christianity is a religion. Islam is a religion.

How can you be a Christian and be non religious?


I'm a nominal Catholic. You can claim Christianity or Islam as your religion and not join a church or mosque or live according to their religious texts.

Dove

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 18, 2026, 11:21:32 PMhow do you explain your average catholic then?

 Non religious people who were baptized as babies and go to mass on holidays are not Catholics just because they say they are lol.

 That still doesnt change what secular means and you cant be a secular, non religious Christian.

 Thats like saying a meat eating vegan. Or an honest liar. Or a conservative communist lol 
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Dove

Quote from: DKG on January 18, 2026, 11:21:40 PMI'm a nominal Catholic. You can claim Christianity or Islam as your religion and not join a church or mosque or live according to their religious texts.

 You can claim to be a vegan and eat meat too....but you aren't a vegan and "meat eating vegans" aren't vegan.

 Religion doesnt work like this. People who are in the religion hate this too. Christians call people out for this all the time and warn people like this that if they dont repent and believe sitting in church won't save them.

 Muslims will kill people like this as infidels.

 What im saying is, they may claim it.....but they are not actually a Muslim or a Christain. They are just non-believers who enjoy church as a socail thing or an emotional peace thing.
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Quote from: Dove on January 18, 2026, 11:30:14 PMYou can claim to be a vegan and eat meat too....but you aren't a vegan and "meat eating vegans" aren't vegan.

 Religion doesnt work like this. People who are in the religion hate this too. Christians call people out for this all the time and warn people like this that if they dont repent and believe sitting in church won't save them.

 Muslims will kill people like this as infidels.

 What im saying is, they may claim it.....but they are not actually a Muslim or a Christain. They are just non-believers who enjoy church as a socail thing or an emotional peace thing.

look at Mandami. your average school boy looking secular Muslim who supports trans lunacy etc etc etc

it would take him about 17 seconds to stick the shiv in one of those transtesticle degenerates in his council should a Muslim majority take control of this country
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Dove

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 18, 2026, 11:33:56 PMlook at Mandami. your average school boy looking secular Muslim who supports trans lunacy etc etc etc

it would take him about 17 seconds to stick the shiv in one of those transtesticle degenerates in his council should a Muslim majority take control of this country

 He isnt secular. He is acting within his religion. His goal is assist the progress of Islam and all that is permitted for that purpose. 
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Biggie Smiles

Quote from: Dove on January 18, 2026, 11:35:15 PMHe isnt secular. He is acting within his religion. His goal is assist the progress of Islam and all that is permitted for that purpose. 
yes.. but he appears secular

that's how they ALL operate.

how do you think Ilhan Omar and Raghead Talib justify to their elders their support of such sickening western degeneracy that is libtardism if not  with an assurance of steadfast dedication that it is all part of a greater plan to destroying this beast from within?

you think a Somali warlord Islamic fanatic is in full support of Men playing in womens sports?

hell, they are not even in favor of women being women and you think they are going to honor the gender confusion of some stupid soyboi when they could just as easily behead the idiot and enjoy a good soccer game after?
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Reggie Essent

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 18, 2026, 11:40:29 PMyes.. but he appears secular

that's how they ALL operate.

how do you think Ilhan Omar and Raghead Talib justify to their elders their support of such sickening western degeneracy that is libtardism if not  with an assurance of steadfast dedication that it is all part of a greater plan to destroying this beast from within?

you think a Somali warlord Islamic fanatic is in full support of Men playing in womens sports?

hell, they are not even in favor of women being women and you think they are going to honor the gender confusion of some stupid soyboi when they could just as easily behead the idiot and enjoy a good soccer game after?

That encapsulates the concept of Taqiyya very well.

Dove

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DKG

Quote from: Dove on January 18, 2026, 11:30:14 PMYou can claim to be a vegan and eat meat too....but you aren't a vegan and "meat eating vegans" aren't vegan.

 Religion doesnt work like this. People who are in the religion hate this too. Christians call people out for this all the time and warn people like this that if they dont repent and believe sitting in church won't save them.

 Muslims will kill people like this as infidels.

 What im saying is, they may claim it.....but they are not actually a Muslim or a Christain. They are just non-believers who enjoy church as a socail thing or an emotional peace thing.
Secularism is a legitimate. Conducting human affairs based on naturalistic considerations, uninvolved with religion.

People of any religious denomination can support a secular society, or adopt the principles of secularism. Atheists and agnostics do not have a monopoly on secularism.

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