He was a helper!

[Biggie Smiles]

You'll get no argument from me. Nobody brings a loaded gun with 2 mags to a peaceful protest.

ICE officers were justified shooting his ass the minute he showed up with any hostile intent while carrying a loaded firearm

these guys are expected to make snap decisions that could mean life or death for themselves in a hostile environment where the stated goal of the people and even the politicians is to kill them

Couple that with the sleep deprivation they are subjecting these guys to night after night and the general emotional drainage and you have to ask yourself  -- even if this guy made a poor decision in retrospect can we hold him to it given the totality of the situation?

I for one would acquit the ICE officer NO MATTER what video you showed me -- wouldn't matter at all. Guy is well within the guardrails of self defense and the mob's daily activities alone are a testament to that.

[Shen Li]

ICE officers were justified shooting his ass the minute he showed up with any hostile intent while carrying a loaded firearm

these guys are expected to make snap decisions that could mean life or death for themselves in a hostile environment where the stated goal of the people and even the politicians is to kill them

Couple that with the sleep deprivation they are subjecting these guys to night after night and the general emotional drainage and you have to ask yourself  -- even if this guy made a poor decision in retrospect can we hold him to it given the totality of the situation?

I for one would acquit the ICE officer NO MATTER what video you showed me -- wouldn't matter at all. Guy is well within the guardrails of self defense and the mob's daily activities alone are a testament to that.

Crowd and riot control is not their specialty. That is a job better suited to local police. However, the asshole mayor and governor will not let the police assist.

[Dove]

Crowd and riot control is not their specialty. That is a job better suited to local police. However, the asshole mayor and governor will not let the police assist.

  The state government is actively behind this. There is nothing organic about it.

 I am convinced state police are dressed as civilians out there involved in the chaos. I think they WANT Trump to use the insurrection act and send military.

 MN is a fucking cesspool. Not even in CA are people doing this shit.

[Dove]

Does anybody think that shooting was not justified. They did disarm the guy.

 I dont know MN gun laws but its pretty consistent state to state that if you have a firearm and you are approaching law enforcement, you keep your hands raised and tell them immediately that you are in possession of a firearm and follow that up with "my liscence to carry is in my wallet". And keep those hands up and visable. These officers dont know you, they deal with unhinged people all day, and its incredible how fast someone can go from non-threatening to unloading rounds into another human. So they have to assume you are dangerous.....so hands have to be SEEN. Not down by your waist or behind you.

 You do NOT go running up to law enforcement with a firearm. Ever.

 You might not get shot. But if you do get shot...it will be justified.

 You cant just go "help" someone that law enforcement just put on the ground either. Thats dumb and possibly a felony.

 This guy fucked up all over the place.

 If you think law enforcement may be brutalizing someone, you film it from a safe distance and get that footage into the hands of whoever needs it for that person's court case....you NEVER interfer. You dont know why they even have that person.  Law enforcement typically doesn't just walk around beating people or throwing them around. Im sure it happens here or there....but its NOT some norm and if they are busy whooping someone's ass, odds are good that person has done something to bring this on themselves.  Getting involved is STUPID. And a felony. And even if that person is innocent and being abused by police.....you are definately not helping shit by jumping in to get your ass whooped too.  Staying away and filming it is vastly more helpful.

 The minute someone decides to play hero against law enforcement is the minute they get thrown to the ground, pepper sprayed in the eyes, possibly tased or shot.

 I really dont know why anyone would be stupid enough to try to fight officers of the law in the streets. Absolutely NO ONE has done that and won lol. NO police anywhere have ever said "well we were gonna bring you in, but you resisted so hard we are letting you go! Congratz!! Guess we wont arrest you after all!"  No. They will beat your ass until you are compliant and if you have a weapon or grab for theirs? Youre dead. Thats it for you.

 I dont get their end game. None of these brainwashed wackos are thinking any of this through.  If they are thinking this through and still doing it? They are psychotic.

 I've seen several tik toks of these liberals lefties talking about how they are ready to die by law enforcement.  Pumping themselves up to go get creamed by officers. Its wild. If i see more of them I'll post it. They are crazy.

 My man just chuckles and says "hey the problem is solving itself"

 He ain't wrong lmao

[DKG]

The state government is actively behind this. There is nothing organic about it. 

Precisely.

[DKG]

Trump's three point plan to end the criminal insurrection in Minneapolis is very reasonable.


It calls for state and local law enforcement to agree to turn over all undocumented immigrants who are arrested by local police and for local police to assist federal law enforcement in apprehending and detaining undocumented immigrants who are wanted for crimes, especially violent ones.

ICE must get cooperation from local police forces like they do in Florida and Texas.

[DKG]

Kash Patel is looking into who is funding the lawlessness in Minneapolis.

[DKG]

You'll get no argument from me. Nobody brings a loaded gun with 2 mags to a peaceful protest.

Or picks fights with federal peace officers and resists arrest.

[Brent]

I dont know MN gun laws but its pretty consistent state to state that if you have a firearm and you are approaching law enforcement, you keep your hands raised and tell them immediately that you are in possession of a firearm and follow that up with "my liscence to carry is in my wallet". And keep those hands up and visable. These officers dont know you, they deal with unhinged people all day, and its incredible how fast someone can go from non-threatening to unloading rounds into another human. So they have to assume you are dangerous.....so hands have to be SEEN. Not down by your waist or behind you.

 You do NOT go running up to law enforcement with a firearm. Ever.

 You might not get shot. But if you do get shot...it will be justified.

 You cant just go "help" someone that law enforcement just put on the ground either. Thats dumb and possibly a felony.

 This guy fucked up all over the place.

 If you think law enforcement may be brutalizing someone, you film it from a safe distance and get that footage into the hands of whoever needs it for that person's court case....you NEVER interfer. You dont know why they even have that person.  Law enforcement typically doesn't just walk around beating people or throwing them around. Im sure it happens here or there....but its NOT some norm and if they are busy whooping someone's ass, odds are good that person has done something to bring this on themselves.  Getting involved is STUPID. And a felony. And even if that person is innocent and being abused by police.....you are definately not helping shit by jumping in to get your ass whooped too.  Staying away and filming it is vastly more helpful.

 The minute someone decides to play hero against law enforcement is the minute they get thrown to the ground, pepper sprayed in the eyes, possibly tased or shot.

 I really dont know why anyone would be stupid enough to try to fight officers of the law in the streets. Absolutely NO ONE has done that and won lol. NO police anywhere have ever said "well we were gonna bring you in, but you resisted so hard we are letting you go! Congratz!! Guess we wont arrest you after all!"  No. They will beat your ass until you are compliant and if you have a weapon or grab for theirs? Youre dead. Thats it for you.

 I dont get their end game. None of these brainwashed wackos are thinking any of this through.  If they are thinking this through and still doing it? They are psychotic.

 I've seen several tik toks of these liberals lefties talking about how they are ready to die by law enforcement.  Pumping themselves up to go get creamed by officers. Its wild. If i see more of them I'll post it. They are crazy.

 My man just chuckles and says "hey the problem is solving itself"

 He ain't wrong lmao

They took away his gun. Unless the border patrol agents thought he had another gun or a knife, was his shooting justified? I am just throwing that out there.

[Brent]

This is what happens when Jacob Frey doesn't put handcuffs on Minnesota police.

Radicals swarmed a hotel in Maple Grove, Minnesota, on Monday night, working under the presumption that U.S. Customs and Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino was inside. While some in the mob appeared keen at the outset to simply scream, bang their pans, and impotently blow whistles in protest of CBP and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, others decided to get violent.

The Maple Grove Police Department, which responded around 8 p.m. to reports of a protest at the SpringHill Suites by Marriott, demonstrated that it has a lower tolerance for attacks on law enforcement than their local counterparts in Minneapolis — and the proof manifested in tear gas and arrests.

"The situation escalated when individuals in the crowd engaged in unlawful behavior," the MGPD said in a statement. "Property damage occurred, and objects were thrown at officers. At that point, the activity was no longer considered peaceful."

After declaring the mob action an unlawful assembly, police issued a dispersal order. Footage shows police securing the area around the hotel, standing off with radicals, then systematically driving away the mob.

In addition to using pepper balls, Maple Grove police — who were assisted by the Minnesota State Patrol, the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, and the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office apparently utilized tear gas to drive away rioters.

[Dove]

They took away his gun. Unless the border patrol agents thought he had another gun or a knife, was his shooting justified? I am just throwing that out there.

 It doesnt matter. There was no way for all of them to know in that split second that he was unarmed.

 All they knew is he was armed and resisting.  When the officer said "gun!" thats a wrap.

 Its justified. Bottom line? Don't try to get involved in that situation with law enforcement with a gun and DONT resist arrest....especially with a gun.

 This exact kind of situation is one of the many reasons why its illegal to do what he did. Obstructing and interfering. Not telling them you have a gun. This is what can happen.

 No matter how much training is involved these are still human beings in high stress situations.

[Biggie Smiles]

No matter how much training is involved these are still human beings in high stress situations.

Human beings who are morally and physically exhausted. Night after night these animals are showing up to the hotels the agents are staying at and harassing them ALL NIGHT LONG

how much sleep you think you're average agent over there has had in the last two week? 5 or 6 hours maybe?

And they are expected to make solid decisions in an instant under circumstances like that?

No way.

this agent could have pulled his gun and fired at this guy from 20 ft away and I'd still vote to acquit if I'm on the jury

y0u don't put law enforcement in hostile situations for what amounts to peanuts and then straddle them with all kinds of rules of engagement that can cause them to lose their lives.

[JOE]

It doesnt matter. There was no way for all of them to know in that split second that he was unarmed.

 All they knew is he was armed and resisting.  When the officer said "gun!" thats a wrap.

 Its justified. Bottom line? Don't try to get involved in that situation with law enforcement with a gun and DONT resist arrest....especially with a gun.

 This exact kind of situation is one of the many reasons why its illegal to do what he did. Obstructing and interfering. Not telling them you have a gun. This is what can happen.

 No matter how much training is involved these are still human beings in high stress situations.

I was really saddend by the passing of Alex Pretti.

A registered Nurse, he provided sermons for American miitary veterans, Dove:

so one of the 'good ones' in your country was taken too soon, I'm afraid.

[Biggie Smiles]

I was really saddend by the passing of Alex Pretti.

A registered Nurse, he provided sermons for American miitary veterans, Dove:

so one of the 'good ones' in your country was taken too soon, I'm afraid.

Did he help his landlady carry out her garbage too?

[JOE]

Did he help his landlady carry out her garbage too?

Very True what they say....Only the Good die young, Bi gly.

Like this guy:

I still remember the day Clemente died, Bi gly.

Wasn't long after he hit 500 home runs and 3000 hits in MLB.

He did so many think unecessarily when he got on a flight that crashed....

....helping others.