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Australia’s universal health-care system outperforms Canada on key measures including wait times, costs less and includes large role for private hospitals

Started by Thiel, February 07, 2024, 08:14:18 PM

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Herman

Quote from: Lokmar on March 16, 2026, 08:04:54 PMNot at all from what I see. For starters, Europe takes more in taxes. In the UK, people are constantly complaining about the long wait times. On top of that, there's people in some of those countries that STILL pay out of pocket.
Most European countries pay more in taxes except for Ireland Luxebourg and Switzerland but that does not mean they spend more for health care. The out of pocket fees are more like gratuities and very affordable.

The United States spends twice as much per person on health as peer nations. Current research points to higher prices as a driving factor, but less is known about how the dollars associated with higher U.S. prices and spending are distributed.

Canada has a lot of these same problems.

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2023/oct/high-us-health-care-spending-where-is-it-all-going
This is one example from the link that explains why Americans are getting ripped off.

Administrative Costs of Insurance
OECD Health Statistics data show the U.S. spent $1,055 per person on "governance and health system financing administration" in 2020, compared with the OECD12 average of $193 per person.

Herman

Quote from: Lokmar on March 16, 2026, 08:09:55 PMAlmost forgot to mention, I only paid out of pocket co-pays for the physical therapy. Didnt pay anything other than doctor visit co-pays for the knee surgery.
If you have a good employer in Canada, physical therapy is covered one hundred percent. Public health care does not cover it.

Lokmar

Quote from: Herman on March 16, 2026, 08:18:16 PMIf you have a good employer in Canada, physical therapy is covered one hundred percent. Public health care does not cover it.

Apologies, but I would like to move the goalpost a bit. I forgot that we may pay MORE in taxes now. I keep forgetting that before THE NIGGER! POTUS, (FUK THAT NIGGER!) we didnt get taxed on our health care coverage. After THAT FUKIN NIGGER, we get taxes on our health care insurance from our employer so that THE NIGGER POTUS could GIVE coverage to deadbeats which the NIGGER STILL charges them for. NIGGER! care needs to go away!

For 7 weeks of physical therapy, I paid $560 out of pocket. Not a major hardship, really. Still, I'd prefer we pay ZERO insurance, keep the fucking money we pay in premiums AND not pay the extra taxes from that fucking filthy jug eared tranny loving NIGGER! and pay 100% out of pocket. We'd be better off by far!

Like I said, government, ANY government, makes health care MORE expensive. FACT!


Shen Li

We have universal health care in Singapore that puts Canadian and American health care to shame. It covers everybody, there is little if any wait times, it covers everything including minimal pays for prescription drugs and physio.

And we have far lower taxes than either of those 2 overrated North American countries.

I love living in real first world nation.

Brent