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How long before the USA invades Canada for water?

Started by Gay Boy Roberto, May 15, 2015, 04:31:01 PM

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Renee

Quote from: "SPECTRE"Ain't that just like a yank.



Can't beat it, shoot it.


You should be nicer to me. Shooting you would be more humane than sticking you on an ice flow and setting to adrift with no food or water like they do with the old people in Canada.
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


cc

Not any more. There are no ice flows now. Don't you read the climate propaganda? ... I mean truth    ac_rollseyes



As to sox, you could save your ammo and  just put him out for the dingoes
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Bricktop


Anonymous

Quote from: "cc la femme"Not any more. There are no ice flows now. Don't you read the climate propaganda? ... I mean truth    ac_rollseyes



As to sox, you could save your ammo and  just put him out for the dingoes

Climate change is real, but not the fear mongering.

cc

ya



just a teasin sox .... couldn't resist the dingoes thing ... not a gang up
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Romero

QuoteDonald Trump Tells Drought-Plagued Californians: 'There Is No Drought'



Donald Trump told voters in drought-plagued California on Friday that he had a solution to the water crisis: Open up the water for farmers, because "there is no drought."



California is now in its fifth year of drought, which has taken a heavy toll on agriculture in particular. Despite an El NiƱo event that saw an increase last year in snowpacks that supply about one-third of California's water, 86 percent of the state is still considered to be in drought.



"They don't understand it," Trump said. "There is no drought, they turn the water out into the ocean."



He did not go into detail about how officials would open up the water, nor what science supports the claim that the drought is not real.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-water-california_us_574910e0e4b03ede4414f435">//http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-water-california_us_574910e0e4b03ede4414f435

:laugh:

Twenty Dollars

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If anyone has questions or wants to know more about water issues in California. This is where to start.

I believe that the governor of California was really good the first time around. His second tour of duty even better. Wish he'd run for president. The problem with California is L. A. It's in a desert, and too many people.

cc

Quotea situation that could put new pressure on Canada to export water from the Great Lakes-St. Lawrence River Basin.

That makes no sense. They would take it from Lake Michigan which of course is within the US and closer to the middle and west areas ... and never have to ask



For the East they could take it from Lake Erie or Lake Ontario  



Lake Superior is farther West and has lots of US turf around it



Sounds like a lot of sensationalizing / bullshit



I know, I know .. lake levels .... treaties ... Thing is, when push comes to shove they and the need is overpowering they will just take it and IF it affects us substantially we will have to adjust accordingly ... as will some US areas
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

These leftist sites waste a lot of resources to tell us about someone somewhere who either said something silly or taken out of context. Huff Po is like the National Enquirer of leftist politics.

Twenty Dollars

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Did someone say Lake Michigan?

Anonymous

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Did someone say Lake Michigan?

That is disgusting.

 :beurk:

Anonymous

California's ambitious renewable energy plans are using up a lot of the state's precious water resources. Lavish living celebrities watering their massive lawns is another.



https://www.technologyreview.com/s/523856/solar-thermal-technology-poses-challenges-for-drought-stricken-california/">https://www.technologyreview.com/s/5238 ... alifornia/">https://www.technologyreview.com/s/523856/solar-thermal-technology-poses-challenges-for-drought-stricken-california/

California's ambitious goal of getting a third of its electricity from renewable energy sources by 2030 is being tested by its driest year on record, part of a multiyear drought that's seriously straining water supplies. The state plan relies heavily on solar thermal technology, but this type of solar power also typically consumes huge quantities of water.

reel

Quote from: "seoulbro"California's ambitious renewable energy plans are using up a lot of the state's precious water resources. Lavish living celebrities watering their massive lawns is another.



https://www.technologyreview.com/s/523856/solar-thermal-technology-poses-challenges-for-drought-stricken-california/">https://www.technologyreview.com/s/5238 ... alifornia/">https://www.technologyreview.com/s/523856/solar-thermal-technology-poses-challenges-for-drought-stricken-california/

California's ambitious goal of getting a third of its electricity from renewable energy sources by 2030 is being tested by its driest year on record, part of a multiyear drought that's seriously straining water supplies. The state plan relies heavily on solar thermal technology, but this type of solar power also typically consumes huge quantities of water.


They should use salt water cooling.  Much better use of salt water than desalination!



Also, the same cooling requirements exist in coal, gas, and nuclear plants.  The steam cycle that generates power is basically the same in most industrial power plants.  All that changes is the heat source.  Thus this article is a bit misleading.  It's not the fact that it's renewable power that is generating the requirement for water, it's the fact that there is a requirement for power.



The article should more clearly have stated that by indicating that "this type of solar power" was not differentiating solar thermal power from other types of power generation, but from photo voltaics - the other type of solar power that does not have this cooling requirement.

Anonymous

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Quote from: "reel"
Quote from: "seoulbro"California's ambitious renewable energy plans are using up a lot of the state's precious water resources. Lavish living celebrities watering their massive lawns is another.



https://www.technologyreview.com/s/523856/solar-thermal-technology-poses-challenges-for-drought-stricken-california/">https://www.technologyreview.com/s/5238 ... alifornia/">https://www.technologyreview.com/s/523856/solar-thermal-technology-poses-challenges-for-drought-stricken-california/

California's ambitious goal of getting a third of its electricity from renewable energy sources by 2030 is being tested by its driest year on record, part of a multiyear drought that's seriously straining water supplies. The state plan relies heavily on solar thermal technology, but this type of solar power also typically consumes huge quantities of water.


They should use salt water cooling.  Much better use of salt water than desalination!



Also, the same cooling requirements exist in coal, gas, and nuclear plants.  The steam cycle that generates power is basically the same in most industrial power plants.  All that changes is the heat source.  Thus this article is a bit misleading.  It's not the fact that it's renewable power that is generating the requirement for water, it's the fact that there is a requirement for power.



The article should more clearly have stated that by indicating that "this type of solar power" was not differentiating solar thermal power from other types of power generation, but from photo voltaics - the other type of solar power that does not have this cooling requirement.

I understand that all forms of power generation need water, but I read not all equally?

reel

Quote from: "Renee"You can blame the Kalifornia drought on Governor Moonbeam and the leftards that run the of Golden Land of Elitism. For years the leftwing legislature and the green bean envior-Nazis have blocked any initiative to develop a much need water storage system and at the same time, most of the cities (also run by leftards) have steadfastly refused to meter of regulate their water usage. Furthermore the agriculture industry which uses about 80% of Kaliforinia's water has refused to change over to less water dependent crops. Add the enormous population of affluent white left leaning airheads and the ever increasing poor of dubious US citizenship and you have a leftwing utopia on the verge of collapse. SURPRISE! Like nobody saw this coming.   ac_rollseyes  



The sad truth of the whole affair is that the money spent on Governor Moonbeam's high speed train to nowhere could have been better used to build desalination planets and the infrastructure to support them. But that wouldn't have made points with green lobby which in the state of California amounts to no more than a domestic terrorist group.


I would venture that the biggest issue is the water use in agriculture. Environmentalists may be preventing the government from solving the problem by avoiding the issue and just consuming more to get around it, but they aren't creating it. The agriculture industry doesn't even need to change their crops. In fact, that's probably a bad idea. They just need to do things slightly differently.



Watch this instructional video to find out why!





Now that you are all more educated, I think it's worth noting that solutions exist that satisfy both environmentalists and regular folks just doing their regular things.  In most cases, they want the same things.  Farmers spending a tiny bit more to mulch their fields is both cheaper and far more environmentally friendly than building massive, costly, energy intensive desalination plants (and then the power plants to run them).  But regular folks need to recognize that paying 5% more for their tomatoes is better than paying 100% more for their electricity and 200% more for their water.  The rub is that farmer's will resist unless consumers tell them not to, but the power and water companies will delight in turning folks over a barrel.