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RW

Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Yes, of course there are backsliders in the body of Christ..



But it is still sin though..



Romero, does it bother you that homosexuality is a sin?

I don't believe homosexuality is a sin. It is unfortunate that some people think it is. Why would God create homosexuals if it's a sin?

I've asked this question to a group of hardcore Christians and the answer they have me was that they were tempted into homosexuality by the devil.  They weren't created gay.  It was a choice.  The same is true of serial killers and all other deviants.  It's the devil's work!
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Anonymous

Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Yes, of course there are backsliders in the body of Christ..



But it is still sin though..



Romero, does it bother you that homosexuality is a sin?

I don't believe homosexuality is a sin. It is unfortunate that some people think it is. Why would God create homosexuals if it's a sin?

It absolutely is a sin, the bible is very clear about that..



Does having something in our natures make it not a sin?



As homosexuality is a sin, it is safe to conclude that God did not "create them this way". Just like God didn't create thieves as such, murderers as such, liars as such, etc.



It is as a byproduct of the fallen world in which we live that Romans 1:26-27 was written:





For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.



Whether there are genetic mutations (errors resulting from Adam's first sin) that contribute to some people's homosexual tendencies may be debated. But as to it being God's purpose, intent, or design? No - He did not create them that way.



Genesis 1:26-27 also indicates that it is not God's intent:



Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Gay Boy Bob"Who among us will cast the first stone?



Leviticus 20 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)

9 "'For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death. He hath cursed his father or his mother: his blood shall be upon him.

10 "'And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness. Both of them shall surely be put to death: their blood shall be upon them.

12 And if a man lie with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall surely be put to death. They have wrought confusion: their blood shall be upon them.

13 "'If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death: their blood shall be upon them.

14 "'And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness. They shall be burned with fire, both he and they, that there be no wickedness among you.

15 "'And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death; and ye shall slay the beast.

16 And if a woman approach unto any beast and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman and the beast. They shall surely be put to death: their blood shall be upon them.

17 "'And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter or his mother's daughter, and see her nakedness and she see his nakedness, it is a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people. He hath uncovered his sister's nakedness: he shall bear his iniquity.

18 "'And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness and shall uncover her nakedness, he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood; and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.

19 And thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister nor of thy father's sister, for he uncovereth his near kin: they shall bear their iniquity.

20 And if a man shall lie with his uncle's wife, he hath uncovered his uncle's nakedness. They shall bear their sin: they shall die childless.

21 And if a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing. He hath uncovered his brother's nakedness: they shall be childless.

What does a covenant with Israel have to do with casting a stone?



None of this negates the biblical truth that unrepentant homosexuality much like unrepentant fornication is a sin that separates man from God.

RW

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Yes, of course there are backsliders in the body of Christ..



But it is still sin though..



Romero, does it bother you that homosexuality is a sin?

I don't believe homosexuality is a sin. It is unfortunate that some people think it is. Why would God create homosexuals if it's a sin?

It absolutely is a sin, the bible is very clear about that..



Does having something in our natures make it not a sin?



As homosexuality is a sin, it is safe to conclude that God did not "create them this way". Just like God didn't create thieves as such, murderers as such, liars as such, etc.



It is as a byproduct of the fallen world in which we live that Romans 1:26-27 was written:





For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.



Whether there are genetic mutations (errors resulting from Adam's first sin) that contribute to some people's homosexual tendencies may be debated. But as to it being God's purpose, intent, or design? No - He did not create them that way.



Genesis 1:26-27 also indicates that it is not God's intent:



Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Told ya :)
Beware of Gaslighters!

Anonymous

I don't understand why anyone would be upset that homosexuality is a sin that requires repentance and belief to be accepted into the kingdom of God?



"If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new" (2 Corinthians 5:17)

RW

We are all sinners in religion.  I see nothing to get worked up about.
Beware of Gaslighters!

J0E

It's cuz types like GayBoyBob & his community wish to completely rewrite the rules of Christianity & obliterate any references which would exclude them from your God's inner circle and his Kingdom. They feel put down for so long that they see the current political climate as a way to brush away the past so that they can be now considered part of the 'in' crowd. But really what Bob and his types should do is to stop trying to redefine marriage, someone else's scriptures, an' git their own institutions, their own religion and their own Bible. Isn't that what the Mormoms did? They even sanctioned polygamy for a while, and many of its members still do. So Bob, romero and their ilk should do the same durn thang.


Quote from: "Fashionista"I don't understand why anyone would be upset that homosexuality is a sin that requires repentance and belief to be accepted into the kingdom of God?



"If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new" (2 Corinthians 5:17)

Gay Boy Roberto

Hey Joe (aka frank)



God gave you a head full of hair of which you are very proud.  But remember  this part of the Bible:



Proverbs 16:18King James Version (KJV)



 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
People hate as they love, unreasonably.

- William Makepeace Thackeray

Gay Boy Roberto

Fashionista - you enjoy dressing fashionably, but don't forget this Biblical injunction:



 "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material."
People hate as they love, unreasonably.

- William Makepeace Thackeray

RW

Quote from: "Frank"It's cuz types like GayBoyBob & his community wish to completely rewrite the rules of Christianity & obliterate any references which would exclude them from your God's inner circle and his Kingdom. They feel put down for so long that they see the current political climate as a way to brush away the past so that they can be now considered part of the 'in' crowd. But really what Bob and his types should do is to stop trying to redefine marriage, someone else's scriptures, an' git their own institutions, their own religion and their own Bible. Isn't that what the Mormoms did? They even sanctioned polygamy for a while, and many of its members still do. So Bob, romero and their ilk should do the same durn thang.


Quote from: "Fashionista"I don't understand why anyone would be upset that homosexuality is a sin that requires repentance and belief to be accepted into the kingdom of God?



"If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new" (2 Corinthians 5:17)

They want to be treated like humans just like the rest of us and push back against the biggest load of hypocrisy on the planet.
Beware of Gaslighters!

Anonymous

Quote from: "Gay Boy Bob"Fashionista - you enjoy dressing fashionably, but don't forget this Biblical injunction:



 "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material."

Bob, that is also part of the covenant between God and the nation of Israel..



The prohibition pertains only to wearing a single garment woven with both wool and linen..



The rule against wearing different types of fabric was not a moral law..



There is nothing inherently wrong with weaving linen and wool together..



In fact, the ephod of the high priest was made of linen and dyed thread (Exodus 28:6–8; 39:4–5).

Anonymous

Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Frank"It's cuz types like GayBoyBob & his community wish to completely rewrite the rules of Christianity & obliterate any references which would exclude them from your God's inner circle and his Kingdom. They feel put down for so long that they see the current political climate as a way to brush away the past so that they can be now considered part of the 'in' crowd. But really what Bob and his types should do is to stop trying to redefine marriage, someone else's scriptures, an' git their own institutions, their own religion and their own Bible. Isn't that what the Mormoms did? They even sanctioned polygamy for a while, and many of its members still do. So Bob, romero and their ilk should do the same durn thang.


Quote from: "Fashionista"I don't understand why anyone would be upset that homosexuality is a sin that requires repentance and belief to be accepted into the kingdom of God?



"If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new" (2 Corinthians 5:17)

They want to be treated like humans just like the rest of us and push back against the biggest load of hypocrisy on the planet.

RW, I am not trying to or pick on or judge Bob..



As Dove said, we are to speak truth in love..



Unrepentant homosexuality is a sin just like fornication, greed, envy, idolatry and so on..



It separates us from God..



Jesus can reconcile us to God if we repent and believe.

RW

The cloth bit is actually an impersonation "law".
Beware of Gaslighters!

RW

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Frank"It's cuz types like GayBoyBob & his community wish to completely rewrite the rules of Christianity & obliterate any references which would exclude them from your God's inner circle and his Kingdom. They feel put down for so long that they see the current political climate as a way to brush away the past so that they can be now considered part of the 'in' crowd. But really what Bob and his types should do is to stop trying to redefine marriage, someone else's scriptures, an' git their own institutions, their own religion and their own Bible. Isn't that what the Mormoms did? They even sanctioned polygamy for a while, and many of its members still do. So Bob, romero and their ilk should do the same durn thang.


Quote from: "Fashionista"I don't understand why anyone would be upset that homosexuality is a sin that requires repentance and belief to be accepted into the kingdom of God?



"If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new" (2 Corinthians 5:17)

They want to be treated like humans just like the rest of us and push back against the biggest load of hypocrisy on the planet.

RW, I am not trying to or pick on or judge Bob..



As Dove said, we are to speak truth in love..



Unrepentant homosexuality is a sin just like fornication, greed, envy, idolatry and so on..



It separates us from God..



Jesus can reconcile us to God if we repent and believe.

We all sinners Fash.
Beware of Gaslighters!