Are You Using/Will You Use Windows 10?

[J0E]

I thought that AutoCAD's flagship product, REVIT seems trifling compared with esri.







esri does all the things that REVIT does, but only better and faster & on a much larger scale:

[Bricktop]

Some people play with toys. Others, real working people like real Engineers use PCs & very large screens .. like 22" - 30+"



Something you may not know. A drawing on one of those toys is useless. Only a big screen allows them to get their real work done, hence for that reason and for raw heavy duty calculation power a high powered desktop is all they use.



Being an offical "AutoCAD Developer", for the hell of it today we checked with  the head office of AutoDesk, the producer of AutoCAD, and they produce a "limited features" version of Plain Jane AutoCAD for mac. Know that even with full features, no one other than a student would use  Plain Jane AutoCAD .



I decided to really check "real working companies" out just for the hell of it today.



Real workers, those who actually design road, sewers, buildings, bridges etc.  ... real things that make a society run  .. not teenyboppers talking to their friends and passing images of their titties ....  use processor and OS  intensive "Civil, Mechanical, Map, Architectural etc" (all of which I have installed separately on my own workhorse machine) ... programs 4 - 6 X the size of  Plain Jane for mac that require real computer calculation power. Sometimes I run 3 or 4 of them at the same time to compare results.



I decided to check out more "real working companies  just for the hell of it today. They were not  "hip, cool" teenyboppers, they were real work firms.  Was just at the docs, so asked their systems person what they run. It was 7 on all 35 machines. Called our bank, and guess what their 47 machines run for OS??

I called our company Accounting Firm. Guess what they run on their 17 machines?



I stopped there - started to feel I was beating a dead horse, eh?



Toys are for boys (and girlies) to play with. Work machines are for men (and of course women) .. for real working people working for real companies that make the real world go round.

Wow. That was as silly a piece of crap as you've come out with in recent times.



What's the most popular car in Canada? Ford? Chevrolet? Hyundai?



Is that also the BEST car available in Canada?



Windows is used in commercial centres because the cost of moving networks to Apple is too expensive. Apple knows that, and does not even bother aiming for that market.



Windows is cheap. Cheap will sell more than expensive.



But it does not follow that because they sell more, it is in any way superior.

[cc]

I bow to your words. Who am I to challenge the idle words of someone who is obviously a  full time Engineer with a masters in Civil



 ac_smile



You are that, right?  ... and been doing real engineering drawing work for how many decades was it?

[Bricktop]

WTF has THAT to do with anything? We're discussing Windows v Apple.



The SOFTWARE that they run is another issue altogether.



Here's your precious Windows 10.



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And its typical. Not unusual. They did the same with Vista.



Here's how you superbrains need to fix your shit.



"Type "regedit" in the Start menu

In the window that opens navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionProfileList

Backup your registry key as what you're about to do is risky (with ProfileList highlighted, click File and Export and choose a backup name)

Then scan through the ProfileList IDs and delete any with ProfileImagePath found in it as it shouldn't be there

Close regedit, reboot and next time KB3081424 should install properly".



How many AVERAGE users would know how to do that? And its RISKY.



POS.

[Romero]

That's no big deal for us Windows users. We simply reinstall the os from scratch. Much easier and a lot less time.

[cc]

I bow to your words. Who am I to challenge the idle words of someone who is obviously a  full time Engineer with a masters in Civil



 ac_smile



You are that, right?  ... and been doing real engineering drawing work for how many decades was it?

WTF has THAT to do with anything? We're discussing Windows v Apple.

LOL. That was for Joey .. our resident limo driver / computer design (via google) ex spurt  



You slipped another cult-post in before I posted

[@realAzhyaAryola]

Thanks, everyone, for your input.



Trained to work only on Windows for decades, I had a nice delicious big Apple at work since early 2014. It was my predecessor's. All my coworkers had one too but they were all using Parallels Desktop on theirs. I refused to use Parallels Desktop. When the IT team came one morning to my office to customize Parallels Desktop on my Mac system, I said, "No need. Please don't run Parallels Desktop for me. Please remove it. I have an Apple so I will work exclusively with an Apple system. I don't see the point in running Windows on a Mac. I'd like to learn how Mac works." Caught off guard, the IT team said, "Mmmkay." They were scratching their heads because everyone else has Parallels Desktop. My coworkers said, "But, but, but..." I replied, "It's okay. I'll face every issue and go from there." Running Windows on a Mac is like cheating to me. Why have the hardware but not use its system? To my relief, I was able to work on it smoothly and it was a successful relationship, my Mac and I.



For an entire year, I enjoyed the new system as I've never worked with an Apple before. It was exciting to learn the ways in which it was different from Windows. I understood then why the others chose Parallels Desktop. There seems a lot to learn. It did not start off great. The IT team helped me tweak it until all was well. Then a few months ago, I was offered an opportunity I could not refuse. In my new role, I use two 27" Dell monitors. Woohoo! I love it. So, I am back on Windows and loving it. I've missed it. It's like revisiting an old favorite place where you know your way around.



My Apple is in storage and if I change my mind and want to use it again, it will be delivered to me and the IT team will have to configure it to suit me in my new post. If I want the Apple again, they will have to provide me with a second one because I must work with two monitors.



Outside of work, I'm still enjoying my Windows 8.1 touch screen.

[Bricktop]

Apple supports multiple monitors. Just so ya know.

[Frood]

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[cc]

lol ^ I'm liking you more every day



Hot damn Asia. 2 x 27"ers, I used to run that large and larger when we did very detailed drawings. Now, it's mainly testing software changes so all I need for that is my tiny 22 and I got back lots of desk space

So they are running Win on the apples they have so many $ invested in they can't just junk them??





I've been using 2 monitors on an off for over 15 years whenever I need to .... running either different views of the same drawing ... or  say Civil in monitor and  say Mechanical ... 2 very large programs running very  processor intensive tasks on 2 monitors simultaneously from the same PC and OS



Then, it just another day and a mere desktop running mere Win not different than most all other businesses that do "real" work



I have been thinking of getting an apple for playtime as a break from heavy duty real work .... some artsy fartsy work. I'm good at art also, eh? .. and I'm told that they least do that stuff very well

[Frood]

Don't stand too close.  ac_toofunny



Apparently, I'm a dumb or vapid bitch who embarrasses parts of Australia already rendered extremely embarrassing to most of what Australia should be embarrassed about.  



(Though I don't mind too much of what you're about either, go figure?)

[RW]

We fight about these things like there isn't a place for both.  They are operating systems that are treated like ideologies.  My husband runs a Mac.  He doesn't berate me for running a PC.  His system does what he needs it to do and so does mine.  



Why we fight over this shit is beyond me.

[Frood]

We fight about these things like there isn't a place for both.  They are operating systems that are treated like ideologies.  My husband runs a Mac.  He doesn't berate me for running a PC.  His system does what he needs it to do and so does mine.  



Why we fight over this shit is beyond me.

Well said.



I remember news articles about 6-7 years ago by journalists who traveled across sections of North America with their I-gadgets and with help by hackers discovered that their every move was triangulated through cell phone towers and wifi through hidden files on their devices. (They actually traveled through multiple states without a phone call or text message exchanged but still managed to amass travel info linked directly to their person.)



Not much later, Nokia's system then and then Android was uncovered doing the same.



Every day at work at I take my breaks in a central area and watch virtually 99 percent of all people whip their phones out and embed their every attention into them so as to check Facebook, Twitter, and all that other bullshit. I just watch, without my phone in my hand. Couldn't care less, myself. If I would ever feel the need to pull my phone out, it would be to capture video of the mindless zombies looking at their phones.

[cc]

His system does what he needs it to do and so does mine.

Exactly -  our voice  of reason / come together saves us from destroying ourselves yet again



Win is made to do the heavy lifting for those who need that. Also, many who do light computing more than get what they pay for.

Seems this continues to make up most of the market.



Mac is great for the arts stuff ..  art design, magazine production etc. and a few other not so common and usually not too processor intensive tasks



I knew 7 was well liked, liked it myself, and many of our clients use it. Still I was wowed by the stats

If I did not have to test our product on the latest, I might have stayed with 7. That said, 10 is doing me well right now and is very fast. Our calculation speed tests verify a significant speed gain in 10, speed and computing power that is needed by only a few users.



July, 2015

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[@realAzhyaAryola]

Apple supports multiple monitors. Just so ya know.

Yes, I know, Spec. My boss has two Apple computers side by side, the largest ones too.