Quote from: Guest post_id=491986 time=1674249345Quote from: Lokmar post_id=491956 time=1674223283 user_id=3351
Overall, I have a different view of the jab than most. I absolutely believe it kills some people and injures more. I also believe covid infections kill people. My wife is jabbed and no obvious ill effects after 2 years. I'm not jabbed and caught covid the first time before anyone else I know did. The real question for people like me and my wife is: does the jab do any good? I believe the answer is: If it does any good, its very little. My conclusion is: the jab isnt worth it.
Seems sensible. I encounter people who have been jabbed every day, very little to distinguish the mudbloods from the Purebloods at first blush. It does seem that those who lined up for the gazetted benefits of special sauce were sold a faulty bill of goods - if anything they seem to be more likely to catch the Pinko Pox, not less.
Obviously I haven't conducted any rigorous scientific study into it, these are merely observations I've made over the two years this shit has been getting pumped out. The jabbed do seem to enjoy an elevated risk for reinfection, disappearing two or three weeks over the course of a variant while unjabbed seem to recover more quickly, if they catch it at all. Given the reports of HIV proteins in the disease as well as the supposed MRNA preventatives, the conclusion that immune systems were compromised is an easy one to make.
This is in addition to the reports of people dying suddenly or developing various and sometimes serious life altering conditions. Our governments are quick to boast market penetration figures (whenever they aren't trying to market the unjabbed as some sort of existential threat to the jabbed that is), all which says to me that your proposition of "if it does any good, it is very little" is a valid one. Potato headed promises of "a winter of severe illness and death" don't quite stack up against the promise of the vast preponderance of people being jabbed... unless I want to factor in the cases of sports stars and celebrities boasting their status, chiding the unvaccinated to get off their duff and join the party, then swaying drunkenly for no readily apparent reason before collapsing in a corner somewhere. Not a good look, though realistically I have to remind myself that while this is happening at seemingly alarming and unprecedented rates, it is still only a miniscule fraction of the world's population who are cashing in their chips in the pursuit of turning us all into human pincushions.
People have been dying for longer than you and I have been alive. Generally it's not the fit and healthy doing it, but that group certainly aren't immune to doing that either. I'm not going to let it pass unremarked when they extoll the virtues of treatment efficacy and the good health it brings immediately before they take to bench pressing a pine casket box lid as morticians are pulling clumps of congealed silly string out of their arteries. Maybe it did stop you from getting covid... fat fucken lot of good it didyou, eh? I can't pretend to know for sure, but I can tell you that it wouldn't be the first time that a treatment had been marketed as harmless and the people getting fucked up by it dismissed as "anti-vaxxers". Why, it seems like only yesterday that Dove and I were locking horns over the subject of one Andrew Wakefield and his research. It might interest you to learn the CDC spent four long years in an attempt to fiddle the figures on the rise and rise of autism and its apparent tendency to disproportionately affect porch monkeys sproglings.
In the balance? I am strongly of the opinion that "the vax" is little more than a marketing exercise aimed at enriching a few peoples pockets with no discernable benefits for the rest of us. Where previous rollouts of treatments held quantifiable positives in terms of health, this current one appears to have none while sharing the same risks as ALL medical treatments - some are going to get an adverse effect to it. 100% Safe And Effective is total bullshit, there is no One Size Fits All approach to be had.
I shall continue to do my thing. One day I too shall die, as will we all. In the case of the sniffles, I can and shall remain staunch in not taking an experimental treatment for which the long term effects are yet to be documented and the short term ones extremely iffy. If anyone has a problem with that, I don't care. If someone is incapable of trusting their immune response or the shit their jamming into their veins to prevent them from catching a cold, they need to deal with it on a personal level instead of externalizing it and making it all about me.
Because in spite of the clear and present danger I was badgered about endlessly for the last couple of years, I'm doing just fine without it.
I still view Wakefeild as a grifter and a quack and I think he has done a lot of harm.....the important thing is autonomy. No one should ever be forced to have any medical intervention (given they in their right mind).
And I'm weird about the MRNA covid shot....and you know that I support vaccines. And I get called an "anti vaxxer".