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My thoughts are with those up in Fort Mac.

Started by Blurt, May 04, 2016, 10:16:26 AM

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[size=80]Sometimes, my comments have a touch of humor, often tongue-in-cheek, so don\'t take it so seriously.[/size]

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"The fire could grow to 300,000 square kilometres and could take months to extinguish.

It could last until the snow flies.

Anonymous

Some extremist politicians cannot resist the urge to exploit the fires around Fort McMurray. This time it is a town of Taber I.T. manager and former provincial NDP candidate who called it "cosmic payback"  and "Karmic"for the city's oilsands-based economy adding to climate change. He has since deleted and apologized for the stupid and dishonest tweet, but he has been suspended from his job with the town of Taber.



http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/tom-moffatt-karmic-tweet-fort-mcmurray-fire-suspension-1.3573156">http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/t ... -1.3573156">http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/tom-moffatt-karmic-tweet-fort-mcmurray-fire-suspension-1.3573156

cc

I'm not a great cat person, but here's a good story from the Ft City



https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fort-mcmurray-cat-rides-raging-wildfire-inside-toppled-024134804.html">Fort McMurray cat rides out raging wildfire inside toppled stove



For one Fort McMurray cat, it turned out the best place to ride out a raging wildfire was inside a stove.



https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/SL2D_Sin8r73kMBHblAj8w--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NjUwO2g9NDIxO2lsPXBsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en_ca/News/Capress/CPT181339880_high.jpg">



Jody Lishchynsky says that's where firefighters found her black cat Tux when they were going through the rubble of what used to be her house.



From what she understands, firefighters are speculating an explosion in the home might have blown out the stove glass, and Tux crawled inside. Then another blast or something else caused the appliance to topple onto its side, trapping Tux while simultaneously protecting him from the flames



............ "We gathered for about 15 minutes. We had a nice pile of photos in the kitchen, ready to go," she says. But then, "the wind shifted, and it jumped the highway. It came down over our hill in minutes. We had to run. We weren't expecting it at all."



She, her son, her roommate and her brother jumped into their truck, along with the family dog, with only what they had in their arms. The photos, the documents and four cats all had to be left behind.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

I am not a cat person either ceec, but that is a hell of a story.

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc la femme"I'm not a great cat person, but here's a good story from the Ft City



https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fort-mcmurray-cat-rides-raging-wildfire-inside-toppled-024134804.html">Fort McMurray cat rides out raging wildfire inside toppled stove



For one Fort McMurray cat, it turned out the best place to ride out a raging wildfire was inside a stove.



https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/SL2D_Sin8r73kMBHblAj8w--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NjUwO2g9NDIxO2lsPXBsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en_ca/News/Capress/CPT181339880_high.jpg">



Jody Lishchynsky says that's where firefighters found her black cat Tux when they were going through the rubble of what used to be her house.



From what she understands, firefighters are speculating an explosion in the home might have blown out the stove glass, and Tux crawled inside. Then another blast or something else caused the appliance to topple onto its side, trapping Tux while simultaneously protecting him from the flames



............ "We gathered for about 15 minutes. We had a nice pile of photos in the kitchen, ready to go," she says. But then, "the wind shifted, and it jumped the highway. It came down over our hill in minutes. We had to run. We weren't expecting it at all."



She, her son, her roommate and her brother jumped into their truck, along with the family dog, with only what they had in their arms. The photos, the documents and four cats all had to be left behind.

A great feel good story cc la femme and a beautiful kitty too.

Anonymous

Was just now doing some housekeeping on another forum and found this piece which I had first posted a couple of years ago.



In view of the Ft. Mac fire, it seems still to be of interest.



http://www.desmog.ca/2014/07/15/new-map-shows-dramatic-time-lapse-tar-sands-deforestation">//http://www.desmog.ca/2014/07/15/new-map-shows-dramatic-time-lapse-tar-sands-deforestation

Anonymous

^^Blaming the victim. Posting information from the one of many foreign funded anti Canadian oil blogs and sites? :crazy:  



That part of Alberta has planted tens of millions of trees. Save for the new clear cuts where cities now exist, it is has more trees today than a century ago. I will let you in on a little secret Canadians already know; when you see the inaccurate term "tarsands", you are reading propaganda. Our other heavy industries and workers are facing similar big money smear campaigns. Keep this in mind before you post Tom Steyer and Rockefeller financed dishonesty.

kiebers

Wonder if a squadron of these would have helped???



">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Ss3BMrscE
I've learned that if someone asks you a really stupid question and you reply by telling them what time it is, they'll leave you alone

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"^^Blaming the victim. Posting information from the one of many foreign funded anti Canadian oil blogs and sites? :crazy:  



That part of Alberta has planted tens of millions of trees. Save for the new clear cuts where cities now exist, it is has more trees today than a century ago. I will let you in on a little secret Canadians already know; when you see the inaccurate term "tarsands", you are reading propaganda. Our other heavy industries and workers are facing similar big money smear campaigns. Keep this in mind before you post Tom Steyer and Rockefeller financed dishonesty.


The term "tar sands" has been in general use for well over a century.  While it isn't technically accurate, it's hardly enough different from "bitumen sands" to be a valid revelator of the user's opinions on ecological issues.  I've seen it used here and there by people in the extraction business, the emissions business, and virtually any other sort of resources-oriented business one might think of.



Please advise me how I am to find Tom Steyer's money trail, or the Rockefellers' money trail, to this blog article, and then I may consider your ad hominems (and other efforts to impeach the source) as something other than the fulminations of someone who seems to have an unstated agenda.



As to the article itself, I'm already aware that forest fires are a natural balancing mechanism in many instances -- and this ought to provide a grain of salt for anyone reading the article.  



But altogether...if you seek to educate an educable man, you can do it more effectively than by smearing my motives for posting a piece which you seem to be rejecting without any clear proof of its dishonesty.  However, if your only aim is to prescribe to me what I'm to be allowed to post on this forum, I'm afraid you're wasting your time.

Anonymous

The oil sands are a mixture of inorganic matter, silt, clay, water and viscous oil called bitumen. Tar, in contrast, is a modified pitch produced primarily from wood and roots. They serve completely different purposes and therefore deserve different names.



Canada's heaviest grades of oil have a smaller land footprint per barrel than light sweet crude. It uses much less land per energy produced than wind power. North East Alberta has not been deforested despite having it's population grow by leaps and bounds.



The claims in your article were bullshit, but we in Canada have come to expect that from all the big money groups in the US and the Middle East that do not want any competition.



I realize you do not give a damn about accuracy or more importantly honesty, but I will defend Canadian jobs and industry from any and all direct attacks. Especially one as blatantly dishonest as the one you posted.



We do things right in this country. I realize there are well financed vested interests beyond our borders that want to disparage us, but not really the time to falsely accuse the victim.

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"The oil sands are a mixture of inorganic matter, silt, clay, water and viscous oil called bitumen. Tar, in contrast, is a modified pitch produced primarily from wood and roots. They serve completely different purposes and therefore deserve different names.



Canada's heaviest grades of oil have a smaller land footprint per barrel than light sweet crude. It uses much less land per energy produced than wind power. North East Alberta has not been deforested despite having it's population grow by leaps and bounds.



[size=150]The claims in your article were bullshit[/size], but we in Canada have come to expect that from all the big money groups in the US and the Middle East that do not want any competition.

I am still willing to hear any sort of rational refutation, or even an identification, of the (offensive) claims you label simply as "bullshit."  As I've already said, I'm an educable man who has no predetermined agenda in this matter.  




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[size=150]I realize you do not give a damn about accuracy or more importantly honesty[/size], but I will defend Canadian jobs and industry from any and all direct attacks. Especially one as blatantly dishonest as the one you posted.



We do things right in this country. I realize there are well financed vested interests beyond our borders that want to disparage us, but not really the time to falsely accuse the victim.

Sir, I have posted a two year old article and observed that I found it interesting.  If I had discerned any "blatant dishonesty" in the article, I would have said so or simply not posted it.  



You are going a bit overboard in impugning my honesty and character, and I take umbrage at it.

Anonymous

Peaches, what do you think Seoul just did?



He exposed your dishonest editorial for the lies it is.

Anonymous

QuoteI am still willing to hear any sort of rational refutation, or even an identification, of the (offensive) claims you label simply as "bullshit." As I've already said, I'm an educable man who has no predetermined agenda in this matter.

No, you are not or you would not be posting propaganda from Tides funded stooges.



Twelve million new trees planted despite booming population growth and deforestation. Fash and Shen Li live in that province. Herman has worked for years in the area. Did you really think you were going to fall as easily and as hard for this kind of ubiquitous misinformation as you have?

kiebers

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Funny thing about the strictest definition of "tar", all along the Gulf Coast the sticky balls of black substance that are on the beaches are called "tar" and have been all of my 62 years of life and is how my parents and grand parents referred to it. These, of course, are from oil. I think most of us are aware that the dictionary does not always have all definitions of a word.



Oil formed from the decay of organic materials, so "tarsands" is as accurate as anything else.



Seems people are rather sensitive today if this thread was moved to RR.
I've learned that if someone asks you a really stupid question and you reply by telling them what time it is, they'll leave you alone