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Started by Securious, October 07, 2012, 05:25:53 PM

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Romero

Quote from: "Gary Oak"http://www.vancouversun.com/business/bc2035/Chinese+nationals+brought+work+coal+mines/7365764/story.html">http://www.vancouversun.com/business/bc ... story.html">http://www.vancouversun.com/business/bc2035/Chinese+nationals+brought+work+coal+mines/7365764/story.html



   Here is a prime example of why Chinese refer to Canadians as being stupid . When we do things like this then I have wonder if they aren't correct. Don't we have advisors who understand China and chinese people at all ? We do not allow any former KGB agents to immigrate but are they so stupid to believe that this Naishun Liu hasn't met with Chinas SSB and isn't working with them. Do they not even know that it is a very safe bet that this Naishun Liu has sworn to aid Chinese people and China in taking over this nation ala FAN QING FU MING ? He is certainly a tong member

QuoteThe first of a group of 200 temporary Chinese workers approved by the federal government will start arriving in B.C. in coming weeks to work in the burgeoning northeast coal industry, a mine project spokeswoman confirmed Tuesday.



In total, anywhere from 1,600 to just under 2,000 Chinese nationals could find full-time work in four projects being proposed in coming years for the region, due to the shortage of underground mining skills in Canada, according to industry officials.

"Approved by the federal government". Harper and the Conservatives. You and Securious voted for this.

Securious


Securious

One story of particular interest to me was the silencing of CSIS Directorship regarding China. Richard Fadden [decent man that he is] was given a rough time for even mentioning China involvement. Just how deep a foothold has this China Trojan Horse [so-called,Trade] succeeded? It remains the perennial question for Canadians as a poll was conducted shortly afterwords to find out their reactions. Well guess what! Canadians like to know more, nay, demand they be given en more and thought the treatment of Fadden was outrageously wrong.

Our nation has been seroiusly compromised by the Middle Kingdom's evil dragon, Communism. Literally 1000's of Chinese spies run rampant without national concern at the highest seat of government.



Fadden was silenced just the same way the Sidewinder Reoprt was.



http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/spies-canada/">http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/spies-canada/

Gary Oak

How is it that our leaders like Vanderzalm and Christy Clarke are always so ultimately sleazy and stupid ! Can't BC actually have a leader who actually  gives  a dam about this province and nation ?

Anonymous

Conan Doyle is a racist cracker.



He is still posting lies about Chinese people.

Gary Oak

You CJ Canadiscam are a racist gimpanzee

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Obvious Li

Obvious Li the west needs to take the threat of espionage from china more seriously......trade should be a quid pro quo affair..... i give you mine and you give me yours......it seems when you deal with china it is, i give you mine but they give you theirs with conditions.......not sure why we would do that.....surely there are enough countries around the world with which free and fair trade can occur....and we can just got to china for the food and the women.

Securious

Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"Obvious Li the west needs to take the threat of espionage from china more seriously......trade should be a quid pro quo affair..... i give you mine and you give me yours......it seems when you deal with china it is, i give you mine but they give you theirs with conditions.......not sure why we would do that.....surely there are enough countries around the world with which free and fair trade can occur....and we can just got to china for the food and the women.

In theory I have no problem with foreign investors in our resource sector. However, there is no chance of reciprocity especially with the Nexxen deal.




How about this..Chinese workers taking Canadian jobs in the resource sector. The very thing I warned about 2 years ago and everyone thought I was crazy. Here we are today and the very thing thats happened around the world is now here in Canada . Notice they actually want complete cities for themselves like in the States. This will come to.



http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/10/10/bc-mining-temporary-workers.html">http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... rkers.html">http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/10/10/bc-mining-temporary-workers.html



The previous premier, Campbell was preparing the way for them just like Crusty [Crustacean] Clark is now.

Securious


Securious

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NEXEN Still In The Offing

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/ottawa-extends-review-of-cnoocs-nexen-bid/article4604093/">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-o ... le4604093/">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/ottawa-extends-review-of-cnoocs-nexen-bid/article4604093/



the Feds are playing cat and mouse w/the public, over this issue it seems

Rambo Wong

You see, even Canadian banks think that China should be allowed to invest money in Canada





..Ex-central banker says Canada should approve CNOOC bid for Nexen

By Louise Egan | Reuters

....OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada should allow China's state-owned CNOOC Ltd to buy Canadian oil company Nexen Inc, a former central bank chief said on Wednesday, brushing aside arguments that oil is a "strategic" resource off-limits to foreigners.



David Dodge, who was Bank of Canada Governor from 2001 to 2008, listed some factors to consider when reviewing the $15.1 billion bid, including the country's need for foreign financing and the hefty premium CNOOC is willing to pay for the asset.



"How can that not be in our interest?" Dodge said to reporters after delivering a speech in Ottawa.



Dodge is now a senior adviser at law firm Bennett Jones LLP and a respected commentator on public policy issues.



Under Canada's foreign investment law, the industry minister must review the proposed acquisition to determine whether it is a "net benefit" to the country.



The Nexen bid has raised hackles among some members of Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper's cabinet and the main opposition New Democratic Party is opposed to the deal. Critics worry about letting the state-owned Chinese firm extend its foothold in the oil patch, and some have cited national security concerns.



Dodge pointed out that most of Nexen's assets were outside Canada, that CNOOC already owns a minority stake in the company's Long Lake facility in northern Alberta, and that the government has shown no concern about other state-owned companies already operating in the oil sector.



"So do we automatically say that state-owned firms shouldn't be in? We have (Norwegian oil and gas firm) Statoil in; it's a state-owned firm," he said.



"I can't help but think this is more anti-Chinese than it is anything else because there's every reason to allow this one to go through."



He dismissed as "the stupidest thing" the notion put forth by some that oil is a "strategic" resource that should remain in Canadian hands.



"In some ways, ironically, in mines and woodlands, they can't be moved. The real asset is there. You've got control over that asset, you have an infinite number of regulatory tools," he said.



"The oil in the ground is owned by the people of Alberta. It's a question of who we're going to license to take it out."



($1=$0.98 Canadian)



(Reporting by Louise Egan; Editing by Eric Walsh)



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Romero

Let the record show that Gary Oak thinks China should be allowed to invest money in Canada.

Romero

QuoteChairman Harper and the Chinese Sell-Out

by Andrew Nikiforuk



By Nov. 1 three of China's national oil companies will have more power to shape Canada's energy markets as well as challenge the politics of this country than Canadians themselves. And you can thank Prime Minister Stephen Harper for this economic treason.



The new agreement will not only support more foreign takeovers of Canada's natural resources, but pave the way for CNOOC's dramatic $15-billion purchase of Nexen.



That controversial deal, which the majority of ordinary Canadians oppose, represents the largest-ever overseas takeover of any firm by a Chinese national oil company.



Both the trade deal and Nexen sell-off prove that no one betrays Canadian interests better than a right-wing prime minister beholden to the interests of Big Oil and the myths of free trade.



"Chairman Harper" (and that's what members of his own party are calling him) crafted an Omnibus Bill last spring that cancelled federal science programs, gutted critical environmental legislation, made it easier to pollute water, centralized federal power, diminished protection for endangered species and attacked environmental groups. The bill not only makes it easier to build Northern Gateway but to serve some of least transparent and most corrupt corporations in China: Sinopec and CNOOC.



But Harper's Omnibus Bill, which declared Canada's formal entry into the ranks of dysfunctional petro states, was but window dressing for the Canada-China Foreign Investment Promotion and Protection Act (FIPPA). It's the most significant trade deal since NAFTA but you won't read much about it in the national press. Given its deplorable content Harper appropriately inked the massive give-away in Vladivostok last month and then quietly tabled the deal in Ottawa without so much as a press release.



Osgoode law professor Gus Van Harten, an expert on such international doings, quickly found out why. After reading the brief document, he declared it a travesty and a formidable assault on Canada's democratic traditions. For starters the deal gives Chinese investors more rights and protections than Canadian entrepreneurs could ever win in China's incredibly corrupt markets.



Moreover the deal "allows Chinese companies to sue Canada outside of Canadian courts. Remarkably, the lawsuits can proceed behind closed doors. This shift to secrecy reverses a longstanding policy of the Canadian government."



Appallingly, the treaty would give Sinopec, one of the big Chinese backers of the Northern Gateway pipeline, the right to sue the government of British Columbia if it blocks the project. Sinopec could also demand that only Chinese labour and materials be used on the pipeline. Moreover the treaty gives Chinese state owned companies "the right to full protection and security from public opposition."



The agreement, like all bad deals, comes wrapped in totalitarian paper. The deal does not require provincial consent. It comes without any risk-benefit analysis. And it can be ratified into law without parliamentary debate. The more Harper wants to do business with China, the more he acts like another tank in Tiananmen Square. Barring a revolt within Harper's own party, the trade deal automatically becomes law on Nov. 1.



http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2012/10/11/Chairman-Harper/">//http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2012/10/11/Chairman-Harper/

Obvious Li

the Nexen deal must be allowed to proceed.....there are little or no legal impediments to justify stopping it. However, sufficient safeguards must be out in place whenever any SOE decides to invest in any sector of a foreign economy.....it just makes common sense....so yes, China c'mon invest in canada, mine for oil but here are the rules you must live by....if you cannot abide by these rules then see you round the way