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[Frood]

I'd love to open a beach bar in Spain or something, playing 90's and 2000's club tunes...

I'd love to live in Antarctica or a lighthouse....

[formosan]

I more so thought of it as a birthday gift lol. Thanks! I'm happy for me too lol. This will help me stay there for the long run.

I hope so.....and perhaps replacing your old Jeep.

[Frood]

I hope so.....and perhaps replacing your old Jeep.

Jeeps never die... at least the 4.0 litre versions... they just get swapped out and improved in time.

[caskur]

I will have to disagree with you there. You cant tell me, that a human being, with a heart beat, and a smile, is not a child. Abortion is murder to them, and if they could talk from the womb, they would tell you the same.

My Son had to be taken out the womb 2 months early. Some crazy freaks want to abort when the child is only 7 months, that's murder, cause my Son is fully grown now, it makes no difference if he came out early.

My Wife, because of the early birth, could no longer have kids. She hated those that aborted, because there are gals out there that WANT kids, but cant have them, and it is absurd to them when a life is wasted. Women who abort, are selfish. They are killing a child.

If people abort using it as  a mere contraception aid then yes, it's selfish but for all the people I know who aborted were for medical reasons bar one person...

I am not going to go over all this again... We did it at bastard factory years ago.

During pregnancy the growing new life is named zygote, embryo, foetus. They are not babies. My mother in law who was a midwife said all fertized eggs are a life but not all fertized eggs are a potential for life. Only potential mother's get it...

80% of fertized eggs don't make it. They pass out of the body. It's very silly indeed to grieve that and the pressure on women to grieve is bizarre.

The trouble with trying to talk to people here is they stereotype a person seeking abortion... I can tell you most women want to meet the man of their dreams, have a happy child or 3 and live happily ever after until they meet their children and some people are lucky to do that... My mother had many great grandchildren.

Modern people expect it's natural to have perfect pregnancies but it isn't. We only have safe pregnancies now in the west because we have educated people and hospitals.

During the times of the European Kings trying to have sons, women died from child bed fever deaths which were infections after birth and they still die today. Only the invention of antibiotic application do people survive... No antibiotic, no survival.

If men were put in that situation abortions would quadruple. Men risk nothing... All the risk goes to the female. And then men treat women like dirt and expect a different outcome.

Women have to give up their life to raise children while men still do as they please.

Now I know the men here like Biggie and Lokmar are great father's but they are in the 30% of men who love  kids and supported their kids... My husband would be in that class of man too..

I am getting into the social reasons now which aren't helping. I am digressing.

You can cross all you like Lokmar but pregnancies aren't babies yet according to law. Zygotes, embryos and foetus die invetro and then mother's to be have to have an abortion and most of the time women have spontaneous abortion which is the medical term for miscarriage.

 

[Lokmar]

If people abort using it as  a mere contraception aid then yes, it's selfish but for all the people I know who aborted were for medical reasons bar one person...

I am not going to go over all this again... We did it at bastard factory years ago.

During pregnancy the growing new life is named zygote, embryo, foetus. They are not babies. My mother in law who was a midwife said all fertized eggs are a life but not all fertized eggs are a potential for life. Only potential mother's get it...

80% of fertized eggs don't make it. They pass out of the body. It's very silly indeed to grieve that and the pressure on women to grieve is bizarre.

The trouble with trying to talk to people here is they stereotype a person seeking abortion... I can tell you most women want to meet the man of their dreams, have a happy child or 3 and live happily ever after until they meet their children and some people are lucky to do that... My mother had many great grandchildren.

Modern people expect it's natural to have perfect pregnancies but it isn't. We only have safe pregnancies now in the west because we have educated people and hospitals.

During the times of the European Kings trying to have sons, women died from child bed fever deaths which were infections after birth and they still die today. Only the invention of antibiotic application do people survive... No antibiotic, no survival.

If men were put in that situation abortions would quadruple. Men risk nothing... All the risk goes to the female. And then men treat women like dirt and expect a different outcome.

Women have to give up their life to raise children while men still do as they please.

Now I know the men here like Biggie and Lokmar are great father's but they are in the 30% of men who love  kids and supported their kids... My husband would be in that class of man too..

I am getting into the social reasons now which aren't helping. I am digressing.

You can cross all you like Lokmar but pregnancies aren't babies yet according to law. Zygotes, embryos and foetus die invetro and then mother's to be have to have an abortion and most of the time women have spontaneous abortion which is the medical term for miscarriage.

 

If I can cut your belly open, rip it out of you, and it can live without aid, it sure as hell is a baby!!!

[caskur]

If I can cut your belly open, rip it out of you, and it can live without aid, it sure as hell is a baby!!!

No foetus can live outside a body without medical help.

They stopped prolonging lives of premature foetus in the Netherlands now because of mental disability.

You are too emotional about the subject and I guess that is because your range of knowledge about the subject isn't broad. I know you once said your mother was going to abort you. Did she ever explain the circumstances?

[caskur]

Almost one in 10 babies, about 26,000, are born prematurely every year in Australia. Roughly 5,000 of these babies are born very early before 32 weeks. Very premature babies are three times more likely to develop disorders such as autism, ADHD or anxiety and over half will have a developmental impairment.



One in ten is a shocking statistic. I never knew it was that bad.