Spent $1,500 at Cummins today...

[Anonymous]

I like my brew!  Us Germans typically are relatively high brew consumers.



Why?  We like it!

Another invention by superior Chinese.



The inhabitants of the Arabian Peninsula were widely believed to be the first brewers. However, in 2013, a 9000-year-old pottery found in Henan province revealed the presence of alcohol, 1000 years before Arabian. Alcohol is known as Jiu in Chinese and is often used as a spiritual offerings to Heaven and the Earth or ancestors in ancient China. Study shows that beer with an alcoholic

content of 4% to 5% was widely consumed in ancient China and was even mentioned on oracle bone inscriptions of the Shang Dynasty (1600 BC–1046 BC)

[Angry White Male]

THAT one I'll let you have, Shen...  The rest of the good things we enjoy were from Germans.

[Anonymous]

THAT one I'll let you have, Shen...  The rest of the good things we enjoy were from Germans.

Before you pass out drunk be sure to set your clock. That is another invention courtesy of superior Han Chinese.

The world's first mechanical clock -Water-driven Spherical Birds– was invented by Yi Xing, a Buddhist monk in 725 A.D.. It was operated by dripping water which powered a wheel that made one revolution in 24 hours. Hundreds of years later, the inventor Su Song developed a more sophisticated clock called the Cosmic Empire in 1092, 200 years earlier before the mechanical clock was created in Europe.

[Renee]

Ya, ya, Fash...  I think we all get by now that Iron is a reformed boozer, and your Christian faith doesn't really like the booze.



I know, I know.



I'm an Atheist, and you don't see me trying to convert you, do you?

Why are you so frightened of sobriety?

Because without the hooch....he has to face what a fucking skid he actually is. That will take more constitutional fortitude than Mel can muster.



That's when his classy Browning comes off the wall for the last time.

[Anonymous]

Ya, ya, Fash...  I think we all get by now that Iron is a reformed boozer, and your Christian faith doesn't really like the booze.



I know, I know.



I'm an Atheist, and you don't see me trying to convert you, do you?

Why are you so frightened of sobriety?

Because without the hooch....he has to face what a fucking skid he actually is. That will take more constitutional fortitude than Mel can muster.



That's when his classy Browning comes off the wall for the last time.

But, iron horse jockey says he was in the same place Mel is now?

[Renee]

Ya, ya, Fash...  I think we all get by now that Iron is a reformed boozer, and your Christian faith doesn't really like the booze.



I know, I know.



I'm an Atheist, and you don't see me trying to convert you, do you?

Why are you so frightened of sobriety?

Because without the hooch....he has to face what a fucking skid he actually is. That will take more constitutional fortitude than Mel can muster.



That's when his classy Browning comes off the wall for the last time.

But, iron horse jockey says he was in the same place Mel is now?

I'm just spit ballin here but I have to assume that Iron Horse had and still has a purpose in life and a reason to turn his life around. I also have to assume he had some kind of support group or system. He also seems relatively grounded in reality.



When you break it all down, Mel ain't got nun of dat goin for him. At least that's how it appears.



From my experience of watching Mel present himself like a blithering idiot all over these forums, I would hazard a guess and say that this place and Van are about the closest things in his fucked up life to a support system that he has. And given that people in both places are soooo sympathetic to his problems....he's in real fucken trouble...... ac_unsure

[Anonymous]

Ya, ya, Fash...  I think we all get by now that Iron is a reformed boozer, and your Christian faith doesn't really like the booze.



I know, I know.



I'm an Atheist, and you don't see me trying to convert you, do you?

Why are you so frightened of sobriety?

Because without the hooch....he has to face what a fucking skid he actually is. That will take more constitutional fortitude than Mel can muster.



That's when his classy Browning comes off the wall for the last time.

But, iron horse jockey says he was in the same place Mel is now?

I was. I used to feel sorry for myself just like Mel does. I decided that I was tired of being owned by the booze. Mel is not at the stage yet where he thinks he can live without booze.

[Blurt]

Because without the hooch....he has to face what a fucking skid he actually is. That will take more constitutional fortitude than Mel can muster.

Yes, this.



People not wanting to face the fact that they are living far below their full human potential is the only reason they would turn to drugs or religion. It inures them against the truth of their own flaws, one by masking the pain, the other by glorifying the flaws.

[Anonymous]

Because without the hooch....he has to face what a fucking skid he actually is. That will take more constitutional fortitude than Mel can muster.

Yes, this.



People not wanting to face the fact that they are living far below their full human potential is the only reason they would turn to drugs or religion. It inures them against the truth of their own flaws, one by masking the pain, the other by glorifying the flaws.

Many people very successful in their careers have become addicted to alcohol and drugs Blurt.

[Renee]

Because without the hooch....he has to face what a fucking skid he actually is. That will take more constitutional fortitude than Mel can muster.

Yes, this.



People not wanting to face the fact that they are living far below their full human potential is the only reason they would turn to drugs or religion. It inures them against the truth of their own flaws, one by masking the pain, the other by glorifying the flaws.

Many people very successful in their careers have become addicted to alcohol and drugs Blurt.

A successful career does not insulate a person from being mentally, emotionally or spiritually damaged.

[Anonymous]

Because without the hooch....he has to face what a fucking skid he actually is. That will take more constitutional fortitude than Mel can muster.

Yes, this.



People not wanting to face the fact that they are living far below their full human potential is the only reason they would turn to drugs or religion. It inures them against the truth of their own flaws, one by masking the pain, the other by glorifying the flaws.

Many people very successful in their careers have become addicted to alcohol and drugs Blurt.

A successful career does not insulate a person from being mentally, emotionally or spiritually damaged.

I may have misunderstood what Blurt meant by they are living far below their full human potential is the only reason they would turn to drugs.

[Anonymous]

Because without the hooch....he has to face what a fucking skid he actually is. That will take more constitutional fortitude than Mel can muster.

Yes, this.



People not wanting to face the fact that they are living far below their full human potential is the only reason they would turn to drugs or religion. It inures them against the truth of their own flaws, one by masking the pain, the other by glorifying the flaws.

Turning to religion?



I'm not religious, I have a relationship with God through Christ?



But, what is wrong with becoming a Mormon for example?



If anything they seem healthier than the general secular population.

[Blurt]

I'm not religious, I have a relationship with God through Christ?

I don't understand what this means, Fash.

[Blurt]

A successful career does not insulate a person from being mentally, emotionally or spiritually damaged.

No, because, in a way, losing yourself in work is just another way of escaping from yourself.



I'm sure we could all come up with examples of workaholics gone bitter for never having had the time nor the opportunity to get to know themselves better.

[Anonymous]

I'm not religious, I have a relationship with God through Christ?

I don't understand what this means, Fash.

I wouldn't expect a secular person to understand..



But, I am not religious....not at all.