Utah nurse arrested, screaming, dragged into police car

[RW]

Where did Payne's lieutenant tell him to arrest her?  Was that in any of the videos because I don't recall seeing it.

[kiebers]

I think it was over the phone that he was told that.



Lots of crap over police chases. There were 911 calls about erratic driving. At least two cop cars were chasing him. The driver clearly goes onto the wrong side of the road and nails the semi truck. Don't want to say they were covering their asses because they were chasing at the time. Something tells me there will wind up being a big stink about chasing cars.

This is the dash cams of the two chase vehicles.

[Harry]

Where did Payne's lieutenant tell him to arrest her?  Was that in any of the videos because I don't recall seeing it.

In the Salt Lake Tribune article I linked to in the OP.

Payne — who says he wanted the blood sample to protect the patient, not punish him — said he was advised by Lt. James Tracy, the watch commander on duty that night, to arrest Wubbels for interfering with a police investigation if she refused to let him get the sample, according to his report.

[RW]

Where did Payne's lieutenant tell him to arrest her?  Was that in any of the videos because I don't recall seeing it.

In the Salt Lake Tribune article I linked to in the OP.

Payne — who says he wanted the blood sample to protect the patient, not punish him — said he was advised by Lt. James Tracy, the watch commander on duty that night, to arrest Wubbels for interfering with a police investigation if she refused to let him get the sample, according to his report.

Thank you.



That's a good question.  Why did he advise a cop with no warrant, consent or even probable cause to even push the issue at all?

[RW]

Another officer is getting in shit now:



http://globalnews.ca/news/3714900/alex-wubbels-nurse-arrest-police/">http://globalnews.ca/news/3714900/alex- ... st-police/">http://globalnews.ca/news/3714900/alex-wubbels-nurse-arrest-police/

[Harry]

Useful article here for anybody interested in the implied consent aspect of this matter.



http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2017/09/01/paul-cassell-cop-who-arrested-nurse-was-wrong-but-the-law-is-complicated/">//http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2017/09/01/paul-cassell-cop-who-arrested-nurse-was-wrong-but-the-law-is-complicated/

[Harry]

The The Salt Lake Tribune operates a website called Utah's right that collects information from various Utah public databases.



Jeff Payne's remuneration for the last fiscal year they have available (don't know if it was 2015 or 2016) was $128,655.



http://www.utahsright.com/profile.php?id=3183438">//http://www.utahsright.com/profile.php?id=3183438



At that pay grade he should have known better.

[Harry]

Here's his LininkedIn page :https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/">//https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/



In 1997/98 Payne was shot in the shoulder by a suspect during a traffic stop.  He subsequently received an award for bravery.  http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html">//http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html



In 2014 Payne received an award received recognition for the part he played in the department's Property Crimes Unit. http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/">//http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/

[Anonymous]

Here's his LininkedIn page :https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/">//https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/



In 1997/98 Payne was shot in the shoulder by a suspect during a traffic stop.  He subsequently received an award for bravery.  http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html">//http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html



In 2014 Payne received an award received recognition for the part he played in the department's Property Crimes Unit. http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/">//http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/

He's a seasoned veteran..



He should've known better.

[Harry]

Here's his LininkedIn page :https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/">//https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/



In 1997/98 Payne was shot in the shoulder by a suspect during a traffic stop.  He subsequently received an award for bravery.  http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html">//http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html



In 2014 Payne received an award received recognition for the part he played in the department's Property Crimes Unit. http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/">//http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/

He's a seasoned veteran..



He should've known better.

Yes indeed.

[Anonymous]

Here's his LininkedIn page :https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/">//https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/



In 1997/98 Payne was shot in the shoulder by a suspect during a traffic stop.  He subsequently received an award for bravery.  http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html">//http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html



In 2014 Payne received an award received recognition for the part he played in the department's Property Crimes Unit. http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/">//http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/

He's a seasoned veteran..



He should've known better.

Yes indeed.

My younger brother is a policeman Harry..



You were mentioning his salary of $128,000..



It's very possible for any fifth year constable or better to earn well over $110,000 per year with overtime.

[Harry]

Here's his LininkedIn page :https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/">//https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/



In 1997/98 Payne was shot in the shoulder by a suspect during a traffic stop.  He subsequently received an award for bravery.  http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html">//http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html



In 2014 Payne received an award received recognition for the part he played in the department's Property Crimes Unit. http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/">//http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/

He's a seasoned veteran..



He should've known better.

Yes indeed.

My younger brother is a policeman Harry..



You were mentioning his salary of $128,000..



It's very possible for any fifth year constable or better to earn well over $110,000 per year with overtime.

Is that Canada or the US?

[Anonymous]

Here's his LininkedIn page :https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/">//https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/



In 1997/98 Payne was shot in the shoulder by a suspect during a traffic stop.  He subsequently received an award for bravery.  http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html">//http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html



In 2014 Payne received an award received recognition for the part he played in the department's Property Crimes Unit. http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/">//http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/

He's a seasoned veteran..



He should've known better.

Yes indeed.

My younger brother is a policeman Harry..



You were mentioning his salary of $128,000..



It's very possible for any fifth year constable or better to earn well over $110,000 per year with overtime.

Is that Canada or the US?

It's in Canada Harry..



My brother is an RCMP officer..



His current placement is in Manitoba.

[Harry]

In my view, police officers are worth far more than what they are paid.



Until they turn out like the officer discussed in this thread.

[Anonymous]

In my view, police officers are worth far more than what they are paid.



Until they turn out like the officer discussed in this thread.

I agree and I know my brother would too..



In the case of the Utah officer, perhaps it was just one bad judgement call and not a pattern of improper conduct..



At least I hope so..



Officers who repeatedly break the law should have their badges taken away or at the very least assigned desk jobs.