Las Vegas Shooting

[RW]

Gross.

[Aryan]

His FB account supposedly had 'liked' lots of radical far left groups.  This definitely seems like a far left extremist who targeted Conservative whites.



RW's dream man!  

That's a disgusting thing to say SCOUSE.  I feel sickened that so many innocent people lost their lives.  My "dream man" doesn't kill people.

Not even when it's for the cause 'Comrade'?    



Somehow I doubt the media will be crowing that the guy was a left wing extremist should this be true, whereas if he was right leaning politically they would never let it drop.....

[realgrimm]

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[Aryan]

ISIS have too claimed responsibility.  It says it all really when the likes of ANTIFA and ISIS both appear to applaud the shooter's actions, and yet the official line pushed is that white supremacists are the 'bad guys'.  

[cc]

[At first they thought gf might be involved, but she was located out of country] "She holds an Australian passport and is possibly of Indonesian decent"



Family members said that Paddock spent much of his retirement in recent years staying in hotels in Las Vegas and gambling.



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-02/who-was-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-and-what-was-his-motive">They said he listened to country music and went to concerts at Vegas hotels.



If true, there's not many left wingnuts who listen to to country music ... but don't let that stop speculation, eh?

[Anonymous]

[At first they thought gf might be involved, but she was located out of country] "She holds an Australian passport and is possibly of Indonesian decent"



Family members said that Paddock spent much of his retirement in recent years staying in hotels in Las Vegas and gambling.



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-02/who-was-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-and-what-was-his-motive">They said he listened to country music and went to concerts at Vegas hotels.



If true, there's not many left wingnuts who listen to to country music ... but don't let that stop speculation, eh?

The shooter was either a prog extremist or a jihadist.

[cc]

While of course auto- first instincts go to "country music fans"  ... and to room mate .... but that's just instincts.



There seems to be little on him online or off. Most radicals of any stripe yap a lot. Seems he did not



I won't speculate "as to motive" outside of  my own raw instinctual thoughts until more is known.

[Blazor]

Gotta love the media, AOL which is known to lean against Trump, has a headline "Obama, Clinton sound off in wake of deadly Las Vegas shooting". Does not mention Trump, but if you scroll to the bottom of the article, you find his comment. Fucking Media.



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Did AOL get rid of the comment section? Havent seen it in recent articles.

[realgrimm]

meanwhile at the hospital





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[cc]

He has no record. His dad had been on 10 most wanted list - when he was an escaped bank robber .. dad also officially diagnosed "psychopathic"  (Established Fact NBC, Fox etc.)



Lots of speculation and several on tape first hand witness reports of a woman loudly telling people in front row "you are all going to die" before show started and 40 minutes before shooting ... was reported and woman lead away by security ... not mentioned by police



So far, no solid clues given officially

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It was a productive day for antifa and their islamic fascist comrades.

[Wazzzup]

[size=150]Narrative likeliness[/size]



The jihadii narrative



ISIS claims responsibility--they never (or almost never) claim responsibility for anything they weren't a part of.



This is also very much an ISIS style attack, especially since they called for attacks on the Las Vegas strip in May.



OTOH a white convert of 64 years of age doesn't fit well in that narrative, though its certainly not impossible.



The right winger left winger narrative



His choice of victims being country music fans suggests more likely a left winger than a right winger, since country music people are more likely to be white, conservative, Christians, and Trump voters.



But, Even though some narratives seem more likely than other, Its still all speculation though, until we know for sure, and we may never know for sure.

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Predictably A lot of buzz about gun control even though he had a full auto weapon which is illegal.  so that argument fails, but I'm sure it will continue nonetheless

[cc]

That about covers it from  what is and is not known at moment



Indonesian gf sticks in my mind a bit .. but nothing reported in that area



Reports that he converted several weapons to auto  .. although seems early for that to be official details