Another shooting in an American school

[cc]

Yes, the leader of that group did say it. However the cops say not so



Further down in the Tallahassee Democrat story above: -  Jereb did not answer repeated phone calls following law enforcement officials saying they found little to lead them to believe Cruz was connected to the organization which has a scant following of around a dozen members.



In a profanity-laced post hours later on a social media site, an account bearing Jereb's name said the whole thing was a "legit misunderstanding," saying they have more than one member named Nikolas. He also said he not slept "for like 2 days."



Jereb, a self-described "right-wing extremist nut," faced charges in 2016 after threatening a high-ranking staff member of Gov. Rick Scott's office.

[Bricktop]

Well, there's a witness you can rely on...

[Anonymous]

Yes, the leader of that group did say it. However the cops say not so



Further down in the Tallahassee Democrat story above: -  Jereb did not answer repeated phone calls following law enforcement officials saying they found little to lead them to believe Cruz was connected to the organization which has a scant following of around a dozen members.



In a profanity-laced post hours later on a social media site, an account bearing Jereb's name said the whole thing was a "legit misunderstanding," saying they have more than one member named Nikolas. He also said he not slept "for like 2 days."



Jereb, a self-described "right-wing extremist nut," faced charges in 2016 after threatening a high-ranking staff member of Gov. Rick Scott's office.

Okay, thanks cc..



All the news I'm reading now says he was a white nationalist.

 ac_dunno

[cc]

Oh. This is the first time I have heard about it



It still could be - Cops said they had checked that out and found no connection "so far"

Well, there's a witness you can rely on...

Yes. That was my and the news's point.



It gets better, lol:



Same article:

Jereb (group leader", if there even is a "group") is known to ride a bike through neighborhoods wearing paramilitary garb and stand at the side of the road with an ROF flag. He has filmed numerous run-ins with law enforcement in Tallahassee in which he consistently tells officers when he is stopped, "I'm a free man traveling the land."

[Wazzzup]

I read another red flag about the shooter; he was associated with a white supremacist organization.

the local law enforcement are saying that is not true.





http://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2018/02/15/florida-school-shooting-suspect-nikolas-cruz-member-white-nationalist-militia-tallahassee-leader-say/341751002/">http://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2 ... 341751002/">http://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2018/02/15/florida-school-shooting-suspect-nikolas-cruz-member-white-nationalist-militia-tallahassee-leader-say/341751002/



EDIT I see CC mentioned this above

[cc]

Strange, eh? We are getting such good and rapid info from cops on this case  .. even their reply to this supposed group thing this early on ...



and still NOTHING on Vegas

[Bricktop]

I thought the offender was DOA.



What more is there to know?

[cc]

I fail to understand.



Responsibility of authorities to inform its public  of  what they have found re: "motive" and other relevant items has nothing to do with whether perp is dead or alive



Responsibility of authorities to inform its public  of  what they have found re: "motive" and other relevant items has nothing to do with whether perp is dead or alive



I'm not trying to knock thread off course, but I find the contrast with the Vegas goofballs  .. I mean Keystone Cops   ... I mean authorities ..  to be striking!!

[Wazzzup]

And the total population of the Northern Territory is around 100,000 people. Thus you ignored the most salient point; "It's a combination of factors," Mr Willis said. "Where you have a relatively small number of homicides within the context of a small population, it will give you a very high rate." Nor does it say anywhere that these murders were perpetrated by using firearms. In fact most were perpetrated by battery, with or without weapons.

There are more people killed there even though they don;t have access to guns,  why is that?  because there are other reasons other than access to guns that make for high homicide rates. That's basically my point.  If people really want to kill other people they don't need guns to do it, they'll find another way.  I don't think someone being stabbed to death or beaten to death is any better than being shot to death

And given that the number of mass killings is rising dramatically, what sort of nation will your great grandchildren live in in a hundred years time?

  For the most part the US murder rate has gone down steadily since the 90s.  Whereas access to a gun has become increased.  Just more proof that there is way more involved in murder rates than just gun access.



BTW Mexico has stricter gun laws than the US, but their murder rate is over 20, that's four times higher than the US.

[Anonymous]

You are on the right track Wazzzup. Manitoba and Saskatchewan have the highest murder rates for provinces in Canada. Guess which two provinces also happen to have the highest percentage of Aboriginals?

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/legal12b-eng.htm">http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableau ... 2b-eng.htm">http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/legal12b-eng.htm

[Wazzzup]

You are on the right track Wazzzup. Manitoba and Saskatchewan have the highest murder rates for provinces in Canada. Guess which two provinces also happen to have the highest percentage of Aboriginals?

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/legal12b-eng.htm">http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableau ... 2b-eng.htm">http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/legal12b-eng.htm

Just looked it up

The highest number of homicides involving an Aboriginal victim was reported in Saskatchewan (36), followed by Alberta (31) and Manitoba (27).



Among those three, the rate of homicide among Aboriginal people was highest in Saskatchewan (18.88), .

Compare that 18.88 number to canada's overall rate of 1.8, and you see once again that demographics have a huge impact when it comes to murder and crime rates.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/homicide-rate-canada-manitoba-1.4413936">http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/ ... -1.4413936">http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/homicide-rate-canada-manitoba-1.4413936

[Anonymous]

You are on the right track Wazzzup. Manitoba and Saskatchewan have the highest murder rates for provinces in Canada. Guess which two provinces also happen to have the highest percentage of Aboriginals?

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/legal12b-eng.htm">http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableau ... 2b-eng.htm">http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/legal12b-eng.htm

Just looked it up

The highest number of homicides involving an Aboriginal victim was reported in Saskatchewan (36), followed by Alberta (31) and Manitoba (27).



Among those three, the rate of homicide among Aboriginal people was highest in Saskatchewan (18.88),

Compare that 18.88 number to canada's overall rate of 1.8, and you see once again that demographics have a huge impact when it comes to murder and crime rates.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/homicide-rate-canada-manitoba-1.4413936">http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/ ... -1.4413936">http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/homicide-rate-canada-manitoba-1.4413936

But, it's racist to talk about the root problem of violence in Native communities. Let's stick our heads in the sand and blame guns and white people.

[Wazzzup]

I don't know why it is Canadian aborgines, Australian Aborgines and American blacks are so much more prone to violence than other groups.  Is it culture? genes? one parent families? poverty? drug abuse? alcohol abuse? welfare dependency?  I don't know, but I do know other groups can and do make it in western countries, like Nigerians, East Indians, Chinese, Korean, Japanese etc.



So take from that what you will.

[Frood]

Maybe the kid ate a Tide pod.



Kinda weird how they have all the kids fleeing with their hands in the air.



I seen somewhere else where he was recently getting mental help. Thats a flag too. Mental = no guns here.



If the NSA spies on us, and the FBI was on to him, this shit should not of happened. Why do we allow the NSA to spy on us if they never do shit in the first place other than jacking off to my dick pics I send.



To me, the school security failed. There should of been no way for him to get in there with a rifle. At my son's school he went to, all doors were locked, and only one door to gain entry via a camera and being buzzed in.



Guns dont kill people any differently than any other "tool", its people fucked in the head or just plain bad that do this. Long ago, kids were allowed to take guns to school, now they are "gun free", making them easy prey for anyone with a gun. This goes for areas that guns are more restricted, seems more gun violence happens in those areas, odd dont ya think. "An armed society is a polite society".

Those who advocate for making self defence weapons illegal have just as much blood on their hands as that Cruz kid who pulled the trigger.



They created his killing field with their retarded logic and virtue signalling.

[Anonymous]

I don't know why it is Canadian aborginies, Australian Aborgines and American blacks are so much more prone to violence than other groups.  Is it culture? genes? one parent families? poverty? drug abuse? alcohol abuse? welfare dependency?  I don't know, but I do know other groups can and do make it in western countries, like Nigerians, East Indians, Chinese, Korean, Japanese etc.



So take from that what you will.

Some of those plus isolation and a really high rate of sexual abuse for Aboriginal females in Western Canada. So many Indian girls are diddled by their dads, brothers, uncles, and whatever man is around them.