If I were in the US, I'd march with them.

[Aryan]

Is it "the criminals" causing these massacres?



Criminals tend to kill other criminals.



And removing ALL guns removes those that will fall into the hands of "criminals".

I agree with you on a lot of things but you're wrong on this matter.  Disarming the mostly law abiding general public will achieve what exactly? Apart from leave them completely exposed.  



If you think that a ban on guns will stop criminals getting their hands on them, you're mistaken.  



I presume you're familiar with the rocketing knife and gun crime here in the UK predominantly among black youths?  Well, knife crime is still through the roof, regardless of it being illegal to carry knives.

[Anonymous]

Is it "the criminals" causing these massacres?



Criminals tend to kill other criminals.



And removing ALL guns removes those that will fall into the hands of "criminals".

I agree with you on a lot of things but you're wrong on this matter.  Disarming the mostly law abiding general public will achieve what exactly? Apart from leave them completely exposed.  



If you think that a ban on guns will stop criminals getting their hands on them, you're mistaken.  



I presume you're familiar with the rocketing knife and gun crime here in the UK predominantly among black youths?  Well, knife crime is still through the roof, regardless of it being illegal to carry knives.

I read that London has more acid throwing crimes than anywhere else in the world.

[Aryan]

Is it "the criminals" causing these massacres?



Criminals tend to kill other criminals.



And removing ALL guns removes those that will fall into the hands of "criminals".

I agree with you on a lot of things but you're wrong on this matter.  Disarming the mostly law abiding general public will achieve what exactly? Apart from leave them completely exposed.  



If you think that a ban on guns will stop criminals getting their hands on them, you're mistaken.  



I presume you're familiar with the rocketing knife and gun crime here in the UK predominantly among black youths?  Well, knife crime is still through the roof, regardless of it being illegal to carry knives.

I read that London has more acid throwing crimes than anywhere else in the world.

That aswell, they started carrying acid because it wasn't illegal initially, I think it is now.  



Honestly Fash, London is the absolute armpit of the country. I'm ashamed to call it our 'capital'.

[Anonymous]

Is it "the criminals" causing these massacres?



Criminals tend to kill other criminals.



And removing ALL guns removes those that will fall into the hands of "criminals".

I agree with you on a lot of things but you're wrong on this matter.  Disarming the mostly law abiding general public will achieve what exactly? Apart from leave them completely exposed.  



If you think that a ban on guns will stop criminals getting their hands on them, you're mistaken.  



I presume you're familiar with the rocketing knife and gun crime here in the UK predominantly among black youths?  Well, knife crime is still through the roof, regardless of it being illegal to carry knives.

I read that London has more acid throwing crimes than anywhere else in the world.

That aswell, they started carrying acid because it wasn't illegal initially, I think it is now.  



Honestly Fash, London is the absolute armpit of the country. I'm ashamed to call it our 'capital'.

I'd rather be stabbed than maimed with acid.

[Aryan]

Yeah, acid in the face is a really nasty way to hurt someone.

[Anonymous]

All these marches/demands for gun control are a waste of time. I have no problem with a ban on AK-15's in theory. However, criminals are not going to turn theirs in.

[Bricktop]

Disarming the mostly law abiding general public will achieve what exactly?

Your law abiding public is already disarmed.



As is ours.



When were children last gunned down in a school in the UK? Or when were people slaughtered by gunfire at Glastonbury?



Even terrorists have to use cars and knives to slaughter innocents. Imagine the body count if they managed to obtain semi auto, or fully auto military rifles. Remember Paris?



Its hard to believe that a rational thinking Brit, who lives in a relatively safe and protected country, asks what gun control will achieve, when you live under its benefit every day.

[Bricktop]

if you were to ban guns in the US, criminals would keep their's and law abiding citizens would turn theirs in.  And nothing would change (things might even get worse).



Most of those people marching probably think that harsher sentencing for criminals is mean and racist, but that would be something that would really make a difference. Unlike the banning that isn't going to happen anyway.

They oppose lengthy sentences for violent crimes.

 ac_wot

I am certain those that lost loved ones have no problem with harsh sentencing.

Most in the antigun crowd are leftists.  And they usually oppose harsh sentences for violent criminals.  they'd rather blame guns than the people who shoot them.



Want to make a real difference in crime?  Put people away for life on their second violent felony.

Put them on a secluded island with fellow repeat violent offenders and dedicate a satellite feed with drone AV for the masses to watch.



Each repeat offender gets a blanket, poncho, knife, flint, frypan, a kilo of drugs in condoms stuffed up their bums, blow up doll, and a small chest of chocolate and beans.



Then pop some corn and get comfy on the sofa for when they first arrive and are greeted by their brothers.

You're a sad little fuck, aren't you?

[Anonymous]

All these marches/demands for gun control are a waste of time. I have no problem with a ban on AK-15's in theory. However, criminals are not going to turn theirs in.

Too many guns in the USA for any type of recall. Grandfather ones in and ban automatic weapons.

[Bricktop]

When your entire economy is bolstered by firerams and weapons manufacture, and violence is a way of life, removing lethal weapons would seem impossible.



But what sort of world will your grandkids inherent if you do nothing?

[Aryan]

Disarming the mostly law abiding general public will achieve what exactly?

Your law abiding public is already disarmed.



As is ours.



When were children last gunned down in a school in the UK? Or when were people slaughtered by gunfire at Glastonbury?



Even terrorists have to use cars and knives to slaughter innocents. Imagine the body count if they managed to obtain semi auto, or fully auto military rifles. Remember Paris?



Its hard to believe that a rational thinking Brit, who lives in a relatively safe and protected country, asks what gun control will achieve, when you live under its benefit every day.

There's pros and cons for both sides of the argument, but it makes no sense to me focusing on stripping law abiding citizens of their right to bear arms. Perhaps their needs to be more stringent rules on who can actually possess a gun? I'm obviously not familiar with the rules regarding gun ownership in the states.



As for here, I'm not gonna argue for gun control to be relaxed because seeing people walk down the street strapped with a handgun would be pretty bizarre for me. However we still have problems with gun and knife crime despite the near zero tolerance to gun ownership, so a complete ban is by no means a proper solution.

[Anonymous]

When your entire economy is bolstered by firerams and weapons manufacture, and violence is a way of life, removing lethal weapons would seem impossible.



But what sort of world will your grandkids inherent if you do nothing?

But, that's just it, you can't remove firearms. You can however create a black market for them.

[Aryan]

I'll just leave this here......





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Sources.........



1. Nikolas Cruz https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/242098">https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News ... spx/242098">https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/242098



2. Dylan Klebold https://www.jweekly.com/1999/04/30/dylan-klebold-led-life-of-religious-contradictions/">https://www.jweekly.com/1999/04/30/dyla ... adictions/">https://www.jweekly.com/1999/04/30/dylan-klebold-led-life-of-religious-contradictions/



3. Jared Lee Loughner: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message/2/">https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... message/2/">https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message/2/



4. Adam Lanza https://heloise8.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/lanza-is-an-ethnic-italian-jewish-name/">https://heloise8.wordpress.com/2012/12/ ... wish-name/">https://heloise8.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/lanza-is-an-ethnic-italian-jewish-name/



5. James Holmes https://www.timesofisrael.com/colorado-shooter-was-counselor-at-jewish-camp/">https://www.timesofisrael.com/colorado- ... wish-camp/">https://www.timesofisrael.com/colorado-shooter-was-counselor-at-jewish-camp/ (You have to be Jewish to be a counselor there)



6.  Elliot Rodgers http://ukjewishfilm.org/people/peter-rodger/">http://ukjewishfilm.org/people/peter-rodger/ (His father)

[Aryan]

I don't want to hijack the thread with another discussion on Jews, but this was too good not to share....



Seems like Jews are classed as white when they've done something bad and classed as a separate ethnic and religious group when they play the victim card.

[Anonymous]

I'll just leave this here......





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Sources.........



1. Nikolas Cruz https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/242098">https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News ... spx/242098">https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/242098



2. Dylan Klebold https://www.jweekly.com/1999/04/30/dylan-klebold-led-life-of-religious-contradictions/">https://www.jweekly.com/1999/04/30/dyla ... adictions/">https://www.jweekly.com/1999/04/30/dylan-klebold-led-life-of-religious-contradictions/



3. Jared Lee Loughner: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message/2/">https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... message/2/">https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message/2/



4. Adam Lanza https://heloise8.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/lanza-is-an-ethnic-italian-jewish-name/">https://heloise8.wordpress.com/2012/12/ ... wish-name/">https://heloise8.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/lanza-is-an-ethnic-italian-jewish-name/



5. James Holmes https://www.timesofisrael.com/colorado-shooter-was-counselor-at-jewish-camp/">https://www.timesofisrael.com/colorado- ... wish-camp/">https://www.timesofisrael.com/colorado-shooter-was-counselor-at-jewish-camp/ (You have to be Jewish to be a counselor there)



6.  Elliot Rodgers http://ukjewishfilm.org/people/peter-rodger/">http://ukjewishfilm.org/people/peter-rodger/ (His father)

Not true, but it doesn't matter.