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To The Horror of Warm Mongers, Global Cooling Is Here

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Odinson

Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Odinson"Oh yeah, I forgot that many of the green-lamps are dead already when you buy them.


Many like the ones made in China are actually dangerous because the ballests catch fire.


I´ve heard of that one.

Renee

Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Odinson"Oh yeah, I forgot that many of the green-lamps are dead already when you buy them.


Many like the ones made in China are actually dangerous because the ballests catch fire.


I´ve heard of that one.


Also the cheap no-name Chinese made fluorescent pigtails don't last nearly as long as your greenie beanie idiots claim they do. Many only have about half the lifespan that the comparable much more expensive versions from companies like Phillips or GE do.
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


keeper

Shen, Do you REALLY read everything on those articals? And are you REALLY interested in this stuff?

Odinson

Airam, Philips and Osram.



Those are the only three brands provided by suppliers. Working well, considering... Sylvania suck though.

Chinese crap can be found in the back alley of a slum. They are not passing the inspections.



Airam is finnish and not that well known.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Keeper"Shen, Do you REALLY read everything on those articals? And are you REALLY interested in this stuff?

If I read an article I generally read all of it. Am I interested(worried) about AGW? Gawd no, but then again the Al Gore's David Suzuki's and James Hansen's of the world don't live like they care about it either. CO2 greenhouse effect is weak and marginal compared to natural causes of global temperature changes. It's just another faux emergency to separate gullible Westerners from their cash.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Romero"There has been no global cooling. The world is still warming.

The actual data shows the world is indeed warming.

Actually those records are misleading. They are land based records whichshow much more warming during this period than the incorruptible satellite atmosphere temperature records. Those satellite records have been further confirmed by atmospheric weather balloons. But the land based records can be subject to tampering and falsification.

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Gavin Schmidt at GISS and James Hansen are dishonest. Hansen's official data records are partly based on large areas of the world which have no weather stations.

Renee

Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Keeper"Shen, Do you REALLY read everything on those articals? And are you REALLY interested in this stuff?

If I read an article I generally read all of it. Am I interested(worried) about AGW? Gawd no, but then again the Al Gore's David Suzuki's and James Hansen's of the world don't live like they care about it either. CO2 greenhouse effect is weak and marginal compared to natural causes of global temperature changes. It's just another faux emergency to separate gullible Westerners from their cash.


A lot of that going on.
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


Romero

Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Romero"There has been no global cooling. The world is still warming.

The actual data shows the world is indeed warming.

Actually those records are misleading. They are land based records whichshow much more warming during this period than the incorruptible satellite atmosphere temperature records. Those satellite records have been further confirmed by atmospheric weather balloons. But the land based records can be subject to tampering and falsification.

The actual records are "misleading" and "subject to tampering and falsification", but the non-existent global cooling records are correct? What kind of logic is that? There is no data showing the world is cooling. How can no data be true yet the actual data be misleading and false?



Whenever you've checked out the recorded temperatures wherever you are or anywhere else, do you really believe they've been misleading and false? I doubt it. As North America is currently experiencing a record-breaking heatwave, do you really believe it's not happening?



The stratosphere has been cooling, but that's just one part of the atmosphere that hasn't been warming and it can be explained.


QuoteIn contrast to the warming trends observed by satellites and weather balloons in the troposphere, both types of measurement have recorded a marked cooling trend in the stratosphere. Though this might seem strange, a cooling stratosphere is actually consistent with what scientists expect from global warming caused by increased greenhouse gas levels. Stratospheric temperature depends partly on the amount of energy it receives from the troposphere below it. Human activities are emitting greenhouse gases, trapping more heat energy in the lower atmosphere, causing the stratosphere to cool down while the troposphere warms up. Ozone depletion, caused by human emissions of chlorofluorocarbon (CFC) gases has also played a part.



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Funny how you refuse to believe all the data except for the one bit of data that says one part of the atmosphere is cooling. All the data is misleading and false, but the stratosphere is cooling so the world must be cooling! Well, the temperature of the stratosphere has little to do with the temperature in the troposphere, on land and in the water. There's absolutely no evidence that land, water and troposphere records have been tampered with and falsified.


Quotehttp://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/ushcn26.gif?w=640">

^What the heck is this?

Anonymous

All the data shows that we are 3/4 of the way through 2 decades now of no global warming, but hey Schmidt and Hansen still cherry-pick data to show otherwise. Contrary to those two political hacks "science" , global temperatures have morphed over the last 30 years from a warming trend to a cooling trend despite the huge increase in CO2 levels.

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OVER the past 15 years air temperatures at the Earth's surface have been flat while greenhouse-gas emissions have continued to soar. The world added roughly 100 billion tonnes of carbon to the atmosphere between 2000 and 2010. That is about a quarter of all the CO? put there by humanity since 1750. And yet, the five-year mean global temperature has been flat for a decade.



Even if you don`t believe the world could be heading back into a period of global cooling as we had less than 5 decades ago you can`t seriously still believe that the world is warming up dangerously and man is causing it. :lol:
QuoteWhat the heck is this?

It reflects how GISS wants us to see data. It starts with raw daily/monthly and ends with what they want us to see. Sad if not criminal really

Anonymous

Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Keeper"Shen, Do you REALLY read everything on those articals? And are you REALLY interested in this stuff?

If I read an article I generally read all of it. Am I interested(worried) about AGW? Gawd no, but then again the Al Gore's David Suzuki's and James Hansen's of the world don't live like they care about it either. CO2 greenhouse effect is weak and marginal compared to natural causes of global temperature changes. It's just another faux emergency to separate gullible Westerners from their cash.


A lot of that going on.

I remember a decade ago it was hard to find anyone that didn't believe that the world was getting dangerously warm and man was responsible. Despite the so-called "settled science" we have the following:



1. There has been no significant warming observed in the last 15 years — in spite of a rapid increase in the atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide?

2. The tropical atmosphere has shown no warming between 1979 and 2000 (ignoring the 1-yr long temperature spike of 1998, caused by a Super-El-Nino), and then again between 2002 and 2012-while models predict that the atmosphere should warm faster than the surface?

3. The Antarctic has been cooling, with Antarctic sea ice growing steadily–while models predict a global warming with most of the effects at high latitudes?

4. There is a striking difference in observed temperature trends between Northern and Southern hemispheres, not exhibited by climate models?

5. There is also a striking disparity between observed and modeled latitude dependence of clouds and of precipitation.

6. What caused the observed strong warming between 1910 and 1940? It is unlikely to be anthropogenic, since the level of greenhouse gases was quite low before World War-II.

7. Can current climate models account for the observed Multi-decadal Oscillations of the Pacific and Atlantic oceans?

8. Why the existence of the so called Little Ice Age, between about 1400 and 1800 AD, and the apparent coincidence of extreme cold with low sunspot numbers?



A quick word about carbon dioxide: It is an odorless, non-toxic natural constituent of the Earth's atmosphere. As the basic food for all plants, it is absolutely essential for maintaining life on our planet. CO2 should not be called a "pollutant." In the geological past, its level has been ten times or more higher than its present value; in fact, our major food crops developed when CO2 levels were about five times higher. China is now the world's largest emitter of CO2 and thereby making an important contribution to increasing agricultural yields at a time when much of the global population is still hungry. The world should be grateful to China.

Romero

Quote"Global Warming Stopped 16 Years Ago, Says Met Office Report Quietly Released."



It hits all the right notes: Global warming is a myth; and 'they' know it's a myth.



The article, in the London tabloid Daily Mail, goes on to state: "The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data released last week. The figures, which have triggered debate among climate scientists, reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012, there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures."



It is said that there is nothing new under the Sun, and the denialist argument that there has been no warming since 1997 or 1998 is an oft-repeated one.



Climate scientists note that while the underlying long-term trend is unmistakable, it can be masked by short-term natural variations. And 1998 was an exceptionally hot year (In fact, it currently occupies the bronze medal position, behind 2005 and the race-leading 2010.) Move the starting point to 1999, and the picture changes considerably.



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As can be seen, at first glance, the years seem to follow no discernible order: 2010, 2005, 1998, 2003, 2006. But the decades are color-coded, which shows that the vast majority of the hottest years are in this century, followed by the 1990s etc. As the Met Office pointed out in December 2009, "the first decade of this century has been, by far, the warmest decade on the instrumental record."



The farther back in the instrument record one goes, the clearer the trend.



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Anonymous

There is so much inaccurate information surrounding the climate debate. It's mostly by those who say man is warming the planet at a dangerous rate but Richard Lindzen does it too. However, climatic warming is on pause which means most of the global warming climate models which showed rapid warming were dead wrong.



From the Australian

DEBATE about the reality of a two-decade pause in global warming and what it means has made its way from the sceptical fringe to the mainstream.  

 

In a lengthy article this week, The Economist magazine said if climate scientists were credit-rating agencies, then climate sensitivity - the way climate reacts to changes in carbon-dioxide levels - would be on negative watch but not yet downgraded.



Another paper published by leading climate scientist James Hansen, the head of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, says the lower than expected temperature rise between 2000 and the present could be explained by increased emissions from burning coal.



For Hansen the pause is a fact, but it's good news that probably won't last.



International Panel on Climate Change chairman Rajendra Pachauri recently told The Weekend Australian the hiatus would have to last 30 to 40 years "at least" to break the long-term warming trend.



But the fact that global surface temperatures have not followed the expected global warming pattern is now widely accepted.



Research by Ed Hawkins of University of Reading shows surface temperatures since 2005 are already at the low end of the range projections derived from 20 climate models and if they remain flat, they will fall outside the models' range within a few years.



"The global temperature standstill shows that climate models are diverging from observations," says David Whitehouse of the Global Warming Policy Foundation.



"If we have not passed it already, we are on the threshold of global observations becoming incompatible with the consensus theory of climate change," he says.



Whitehouse argues that whatever has happened to make temperatures remain constant requires an explanation because the pause in temperature rise has occurred despite a sharp increase in global carbon emissions.



The Economist says the world has added roughly 100 billion tonnes of carbon to the atmosphere between 2000 and 2010, about one-quarter of all the carbon dioxide put there by humans since 1750. This mismatch between rising greenhouse gas emissions and not-rising temperatures is among the biggest puzzles in climate science just now, The Economist article says.

Romero

QuoteThe year 2012 was a terrible time for the planet, according to a new report released by the American Meteorological Society this week.



Edited by scientists at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the 2012 State of the Climate report revealed that Arctic sea ice reached a record low, while sea levels and greenhouse gases from fossil fuel burning hit all-time highs last year.



2012 was also one of the top 10 warmest years on record globally, according to the report, which received input from hundreds of climate experts from more than 50 countries. The United States and Argentina specifically experienced their hottest years ever.



"The findings are striking," said Kathryn Sullivan, acting administrator of the NOAA, according to the Agence France-Presse. "Our planet as a whole is becoming a warmer place."



Sullivan told the Associated Press the report reveals "remarkable changes in key climate indicators," including the dramatic melting of Arctic and Greenland ice.



The report also pointed out that sea levels reached a record high last year, with sea surface temperatures climbing significantly.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/06/record-arctic-ice-melt_n_3715226.html">//http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/06/record-arctic-ice-melt_n_3715226.html

Obvious Li

Quote from: "Romero"
QuoteThe year 2012 was a terrible time for the planet, according to a new report released by the American Meteorological Society this week.



Edited by scientists at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the 2012 State of the Climate report revealed that Arctic sea ice reached a record low, while sea levels and greenhouse gases from fossil fuel burning hit all-time highs last year.



2012 was also one of the top 10 warmest years on record globally, according to the report, which received input from hundreds of climate experts from more than 50 countries. The United States and Argentina specifically experienced their hottest years ever.



"The findings are striking," said Kathryn Sullivan, acting administrator of the NOAA, according to the Agence France-Presse. "Our planet as a whole is becoming a warmer place."



Sullivan told the Associated Press the report reveals "remarkable changes in key climate indicators," including the dramatic melting of Arctic and Greenland ice.



The report also pointed out that sea levels reached a record high last year, with sea surface temperatures climbing significantly.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/06/record-arctic-ice-melt_n_3715226.html">//http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/06/record-arctic-ice-melt_n_3715226.html

Anonymous

Is the NOAA still inflating their sunspot count by counting specks?


QuoteRecord Cold weather in 2012 kills more than 220 in Europe; Danube freezes over; France set to break power consumption records.



KIEV — Temperatures fell to record lows across Europe as a week-long cold snap continues, claiming more than 220 lives with forecasters warned that the big freeze would tighten its grip at the weekend.



In the southwest Czech Republic, mercury fell to as low as minus 38.1 degrees Celsius overnight and even Rome received a rare dusting of snow.



In the last seven days, a total of 222 people have died from the cold weather, according to an AFP tally.



Ukraine's emergencies ministry raised the death toll substantially from a previous 63 to 101, of whom 64 died on the streets.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/03/cold-weather-kills-more-than-220-in-europe-danube-freezes-over-france-set-to-break-power-consumption-records/">http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/03 ... n-records/">http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/03/cold-weather-kills-more-than-220-in-europe-danube-freezes-over-france-set-to-break-power-consumption-records/

Sorry, I won't be consuming less and paying more to make more money for scumbag billionaires and governments despite how much misleading "data" they try and scare us with.