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Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change

Started by cc, April 10, 2018, 04:04:18 PM

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Anonymous

Quote from: "Angry White Male"White streets?  NICE!  The colour of my people!

Didn't the BC NDP government just  raise the  provincial carbon tax?

Angry White Male

Yup!  On my M.R. Smith Diesel invoice, it states an increase for Diesel carbon tax from 7.67 cents/liter to 8.95 cents/liter.  Gasoline up from 6.67 to 7.78 cents/liter.



Good thing I'm competing against lots of immigrants here that will work for nothing, so I can't increase my rates!  Just means I'm making a little less now.



One more reason to get out of this immigrant infested dump.  Rates are $25 to $50/hour higher in non-immigrant infested Canadian towns.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Angry White Male"Yup!  On my M.R. Smith Diesel invoice, it states an increase for Diesel carbon tax from 7.67 cents/liter to 8.95 cents/liter.  Gasoline up from 6.67 to 7.78 cents/liter.



Good thing I'm competing against lots of immigrants here that will work for nothing, so I can't increase my rates!  Just means I'm making a little less now.



One more reason to get out of this immigrant infested dump.  Rates are $25 to $50/hour higher in non-immigrant infested Canadian towns.

You can feel good knowing you are saving the planet.

 :laugh:

Angry White Male

My billing rates are forced to stay the same year after year (immigrants), but I pay more and more business expenses.



This means that I make less and less, year after year, for doing the same work.



Welcome to the nation of stagnation.  Canada never used to be such a shithole...  something changed.

Berry Sweet

Quote from: "Angry White Male"


Good thing I'm competing against lots of immigrants here that will work for nothing, .


Sadly, this is true.

Anonymous

Carbon taxes harm everyone who runs a business or is an employee.

Anonymous

Doug Ford could end up being the guy that saves Canadians thousands of dollars in carbon taxes that don't work anyway.



http://business.financialpost.com/opinion/doug-ford-is-about-to-change-climate-change-policy-for-the-whole-country-and-its-about-time">http://business.financialpost.com/opini ... about-time">http://business.financialpost.com/opinion/doug-ford-is-about-to-change-climate-change-policy-for-the-whole-country-and-its-about-time

Doug Ford is about to change climate change policy for the whole country — and it's about time

Ford's priorities will lead to an inevitable showdown over Ottawa's carbon-pricing mandate



Doug Ford's victory in the Ontario Progressive Conservative leadership race changes the national climate policy picture in a significant way. Not because he is opposed to carbon taxes: Many other federal and provincial politicians are as well. What makes Ford different is his willingness to declare that he sees climate change as a secondary issue in comparison to basic bread-and-butter economic priorities.



Lots of politicians agree, but they are too nervous to say so. They find it safer to nod along with the loudest voices on the other side, whose righteous crusade against (as they see it) planet-destroying fossil fuels leads them to believe that any policy, no matter how extreme and costly, is never enough.



Ford's realism may inspire others to join him. And his view is well in line with expert opinion. The most recent report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, after surveying the projected costs and benefits of climate change, concluded: "For most economic sectors, the impact of climate change will be small relative to the impacts of other drivers... Changes in population, age, income, technology, relative prices, lifestyle, regulation, governance and many other aspects of socioeconomic development will have an impact on the supply and demand of economic goods and services that is large relative to the impact of climate change."



In other words, when it comes to the things that truly affect peoples' day-to-day lives, climate change might belong on the list, but far down. Polls show that people have largely figured this out for themselves, with climate change consistently ranking far behind most other priorities.



Policy should reflect this. It is not rational to say that, because climate change might (in theory) create some problems for people a few decades from now, we should impose energy policies that will create much larger problems for them now. Unfortunately, that is what plans like the Paris treaty oblige us to do.





It is even less rational once you realize that the policies are futile. The same models that say global warming is a problem also say that Paris-type measures will not fix it. If Canada and all the other signatories do what they say they plan to do, the effect on the climate by the end of the century will be minuscule at best, despite the heavy economic costs.



And, as with Kyoto before it, we can safely predict that the other signatories to Paris will not keep their promises. We especially need to take account of the fact that President Donald Trump's decision to pull the United States out of Paris has changed the situation for Canada. The U.S. is ramping up its economic competitiveness through energy-sector deregulation and an abandonment of former president Barack Obama's climate goals. We ignore this at our peril.



Ontario energy and climate policy needs to be rooted in current reality, not wishful thinking about what a subsequent U.S. president might someday do. We should pursue environmental policies that yield actual benefits at reasonable costs while supporting economic growth and job creation. That is how we used to approach the issue, and it resulted in decades of improvements in air and water quality, alongside continued economic growth.



The last few years, by contrast, have been marked by costly and futile gestures (like the Ontario Green Energy Act) that are more about moralistic symbolism than improving peoples' lives.



Ford's priorities will lead to an inevitable showdown over Ottawa's carbon-pricing mandate. In reality, this is a minor issue and deserves to be treated as such. It is not Ford's problem that the Liberal federal government of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau embraced the Paris treaty without a plan to achieve its targets, much less a national consensus that doing so is worth the cost. The provinces are within their rights to tell the feds that if they want a carbon tax, they will have to impose it themselves and face the political consequences, not make the provinces do it for them.



Ottawa will object, of course, but if it cracks down it will find itself in the position of ignoring British Columbia's pipeline obstruction, while forcing unpopular green taxes on everyone else. Perhaps that reflects its priorities, but I am doubtful it matches those of the general public.


Anonymous

Quote from: "cc"California officials are hoping their latest attempt to stem the rising tides of climate change leads to a more socially conscious -- and cooler -- summer.

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Officials in Los Angeles have been painting streets white to reduce the effect of urban "heat islands" and combat the effects of climate change.



The LA Street Services began rolling out the project last May, which preliminary testing shows has reduced the temperature of roadways by up to 10 degrees. The project involves applying a light gray coating of the product CoolSeal, made by the company GuardTop.





While each coasting could can last up to seven years, they are also pricey, with the estimated cost of $40,000 per mile, the L.A. Daily News reported.



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[OK, Paint streets white to reflect heat - I get that. So now tell me where the reflected heat goes?   :confused1:  ]

Kalifornia is as creative as Ontario at wasting taxpayers money with the stale excuse of fighting climate change.