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What was the legacy of the 1960s?

Started by JOE, July 29, 2018, 05:09:15 AM

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Bricktop

Its a fair point...yet history tells us that laws, once enacted, are more likely to remain than be repealed.



This is because the major parties have a "nod and wink" relationship, which essentially says that whilst in government, one side passes a law and the other side will leave it in place. This is ostensibly to prevent laws changing after each election, and creating a chaos of inconsistency, unreliability and total confusion.



Another reason democracy is a failed system.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"Its a fair point...yet history tells us that laws, once enacted, are more likely to remain than be repealed.



This is because the major parties have a "nod and wink" relationship, which essentially says that whilst in government, one side passes a law and the other side will leave it in place. This is ostensibly to prevent laws changing after each election, and creating a chaos of inconsistency, unreliability and total confusion.



Another reason democracy is a failed system.

Our provincial government will almost certainly be defeated in less than one year..



The Conservatives who will likely form the next government have said repealing the carbon tax is priority one..



I hope they are serious.

Bricktop

Our Conservative government repealed the Carbon Tax here in 2014.



It was one of those rare cases of repealing legislation from a previous government...but there were mitigating circumstances.



The previous leftist Government, when in opposition during an election campaign declared unequivocally that if elected, they would NOT impose a carbon tax. They won.



Then, to gain the support of the Greens in the Senate to ensure legislation passed unhindered, they reneged. They imposed a carbon tax.



This raised our ire, and we remembered at the next election, when the conservatives promised to repeal it during the election campaign, and thus won back Government.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"Our Conservative government repealed the Carbon Tax here in 2014.



It was one of those rare cases of repealing legislation from a previous government...but there were mitigating circumstances.



The previous leftist Government, when in opposition during an election campaign declared unequivocally that if elected, they would NOT impose a carbon tax. They won.



Then, to gain the support of the Greens in the Senate to ensure legislation passed unhindered, they reneged. They imposed a carbon tax.



This raised our ire, and we remembered at the next election, when the conservatives promised to repeal it during the election campaign, and thus won back Government.

Our leftist provincial NDP government didn't mention a carbon tax in their platform, but implemented a rather steep one anyway.

Bricktop

This is deception, and should be outlawed.



We must STOP this mentality of political parties which says "You voted for us, so you support ANYTHING we do".

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"This is deception, and should be outlawed.



We must STOP this mentality of political parties which says "You voted for us, so you support ANYTHING we do".

Justin Trudeau never  campaigned on a carbon tax, but he is prepared to spend our money taking provinces to court to force a fifty dollar per tonne carbon price on every province even though many don't want anything to do with it.

Bricktop

This is the major flaw of democracy. It has to be stopped.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"This is the major flaw of democracy. It has to be stopped.

He won 39.5 per cent of the vote, so he feels he can go against the will of the people.

Bricktop

Its long, but worth the time it takes to drink your next tea or coffee.



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Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"This is deception, and should be outlawed.



We must STOP this mentality of political parties which says "You voted for us, so you support ANYTHING we do".

Justin Trudeau never  campaigned on a carbon tax, but he is prepared to spend our money taking provinces to court to force a fifty dollar per tonne carbon price on every province even though many don't want anything to do with it.

But, he gave ten million bucks to a convicted terrorist because he wanted to save taxpayers money if the government lost in court.  :crazy:

Frood

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Bricktop

I would propose that democracy as a system is not flawed.



It has been rendered a flawed system by political corruption at all levels.

Frood

Quote from: "Bricktop"I would propose that democracy as a system is not flawed.



It has been rendered a flawed system by political corruption at all levels.


If a system can't effectively thwart political corruption, it's therefore flawed.
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Bricktop"I would propose that democracy as a system is not flawed.



It has been rendered a flawed system by political corruption at all levels.


If a system can't effectively thwart political corruption, it's therefore flawed.


In their private correspondence Jefferson and Adams more or less agreed that a democratic republic was only good for twenty years or so... because in that length of time the legislators would figure out how to vote themselves money from the public purse.

Frood

Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Bricktop"I would propose that democracy as a system is not flawed.



It has been rendered a flawed system by political corruption at all levels.


If a system can't effectively thwart political corruption, it's therefore flawed.


In their private correspondence Jefferson and Adams more or less agreed that a democratic republic was only good for twenty years or so... because in that length of time the legislators would figure out how to vote themselves money from the public purse.


Can't disagree with that sentiment.
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