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Crazy California city OKs jail time for defying plastic straw ban (seriously)

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A California coastal city has become the latest municipality to ban plastic straws, enacting what is potentially the strictest plastic prohibition in the country.



Santa Barbara earlier this month passed the ordinance authorizing hefty fines and even a possible jail sentence for violators who dole out plastic straws at restaurants, bars and other food establishments.



According to the ordinance, violators on their first offense will be given a written warning notice. But the second time a purveyor of plastic straws defies the ban is when the heavy hand of the law could clamp down.



In that case, the ordinance cites penalties from the city's municipal code for a "fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), imprisonment for a term not exceeding six (6) months."



In comparison, Seattle, which in the beginning of July became the first major city in the U.S. to ban plastic straws, only fines businesses $250 per offense.



The legislation requires a second approval, which is expected next week, and the ban would go into effect July 1, 2019, along with a new requirement to make napkins, utensils and other to-go accessories available only upon request, unless a self-serve station is available where people can take what they need. [/quote]

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And who are today's puritans?  The left.

Thiel

Quote from: "Wazzzup"A California coastal city has become the latest municipality to ban plastic straws, enacting what is potentially the strictest plastic prohibition in the country.



Santa Barbara earlier this month passed the ordinance authorizing hefty fines and even a possible jail sentence for violators who dole out plastic straws at restaurants, bars and other food establishments.



According to the ordinance, violators on their first offense will be given a written warning notice. But the second time a purveyor of plastic straws defies the ban is when the heavy hand of the law could clamp down.



In that case, the ordinance cites penalties from the city's municipal code for a "fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), imprisonment for a term not exceeding six (6) months."



In comparison, Seattle, which in the beginning of July became the first major city in the U.S. to ban plastic straws, only fines businesses $250 per offense.



The legislation requires a second approval, which is expected next week, and the ban would go into effect July 1, 2019, along with a new requirement to make napkins, utensils and other to-go accessories available only upon request, unless a self-serve station is available where people can take what they need.


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And who are today's puritans?  The left.[/quote]
Plastic straw bans in the US or Canada are pure symbolism. It will not affect the amount of plastic in the oceans one iota.
gay, conservative and proud

Anonymous

Quote from: "Wazzzup"A California coastal city has become the latest municipality to ban plastic straws, enacting what is potentially the strictest plastic prohibition in the country.



Santa Barbara earlier this month passed the ordinance authorizing hefty fines and even a possible jail sentence for violators who dole out plastic straws at restaurants, bars and other food establishments.



According to the ordinance, violators on their first offense will be given a written warning notice. But the second time a purveyor of plastic straws defies the ban is when the heavy hand of the law could clamp down.



In that case, the ordinance cites penalties from the city's municipal code for a "fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), imprisonment for a term not exceeding six (6) months."



In comparison, Seattle, which in the beginning of July became the first major city in the U.S. to ban plastic straws, only fines businesses $250 per offense.



The legislation requires a second approval, which is expected next week, and the ban would go into effect July 1, 2019, along with a new requirement to make napkins, utensils and other to-go accessories available only upon request, unless a self-serve station is available where people can take what they need.


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And who are today's puritans?  The left.[/quote]
Is that ever harsh.

Wazzzup

Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"A California coastal city has become the latest municipality to ban plastic straws, enacting what is potentially the strictest plastic prohibition in the country.



Santa Barbara earlier this month passed the ordinance authorizing hefty fines and even a possible jail sentence for violators who dole out plastic straws at restaurants, bars and other food establishments.



According to the ordinance, violators on their first offense will be given a written warning notice. But the second time a purveyor of plastic straws defies the ban is when the heavy hand of the law could clamp down.



In that case, the ordinance cites penalties from the city's municipal code for a "fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), imprisonment for a term not exceeding six (6) months."



In comparison, Seattle, which in the beginning of July became the first major city in the U.S. to ban plastic straws, only fines businesses $250 per offense.



The legislation requires a second approval, which is expected next week, and the ban would go into effect July 1, 2019, along with a new requirement to make napkins, utensils and other to-go accessories available only upon request, unless a self-serve station is available where people can take what they need.


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And who are today's puritans?  The left.

Plastic straw bans in the US or Canada are pure symbolism. It will not affect the amount of plastic in the oceans one iota.[/quote]It makes the left feel good.  that is all that matters.

Bricktop

Meanwhile, the TRUE offenders in plastic dumping in the ocean carry on regardless.



No surprise they are in Africa, Asia and the middle east.



https://www.dw.com/en/almost-all-plastic-in-the-ocean-comes-from-just-10-rivers/a-41581484">https://www.dw.com/en/almost-all-plasti ... a-41581484">https://www.dw.com/en/almost-all-plastic-in-the-ocean-comes-from-just-10-rivers/a-41581484

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"Meanwhile, the TRUE offenders in plastic dumping in the ocean carry on regardless.



No surprise they are in Africa, Asia and the middle east.



https://www.dw.com/en/almost-all-plastic-in-the-ocean-comes-from-just-10-rivers/a-41581484">https://www.dw.com/en/almost-all-plasti ... a-41581484">https://www.dw.com/en/almost-all-plastic-in-the-ocean-comes-from-just-10-rivers/a-41581484

I have read this Bricktop..



But, out prime minister thinks our plastic straws end up in the oceans.

 :001_rolleyes:

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"Meanwhile, the TRUE offenders in plastic dumping in the ocean carry on regardless.



No surprise they are in Africa, Asia and the middle east.



https://www.dw.com/en/almost-all-plastic-in-the-ocean-comes-from-just-10-rivers/a-41581484">https://www.dw.com/en/almost-all-plasti ... a-41581484">https://www.dw.com/en/almost-all-plastic-in-the-ocean-comes-from-just-10-rivers/a-41581484

Thiel is right. Banning straws and plastic grocery bags in North America will have zero impact on the amount of plastic waste in our oceans. It will raise money for cities like Santa Barbara though.

cc

I read somewhere recently that the Yangtze and (as I recall) the Indus together made up ~ 90 % of the worlds plastic pollution
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc"I read somewhere recently that the Yangtze and (as I recall) the Indus together made up ~ 90 % of the worlds plastic pollution

It's actually about ten rivers all in the developing world according to Bricktop's link.



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cc

Right. I'm also finding major links that put those 10  at 95%



The Weather Network puts it at 95 https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/ninety-five-percent-of-plastic-in-sea-comes-from-just-ten-rivers/89034">https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/ ... vers/89034">https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/ninety-five-percent-of-plastic-in-sea-comes-from-just-ten-rivers/89034



This puts it into a "comparative" perspective (although the overall doesn't add up with the individual %ages)



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I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell