Quote from: Biggie Smiles on Today at 11:50:47 AMand you thought you could reason that salient point into that diseased cow's dysfunctional brain why again?

 It's worked in the past.

 Yesterday was not that day lol

Quote from: Frood on Today at 12:04:49 PMYou did the Faygo/Vernors can and the apple too. 

Right of passage in the Upper and Lower... 

 Yep! The cans were used many times 

Quote from: Logic Sandwich on Today at 11:38:49 AMThere was a time when conservative Canadian investigative journalist Lauren Southern would have argued squarely from the Shen Li camp. Stick with the mistakes you made.... always... no matter what. And it was something that Lauren to her credit was prepared to live by herself.

Terrible marriage. Husband behaved like a total cunt, expected the impossible from the woman who had been prepared to fight and sacrifice everything she had to stand by her man. Because that's what you do, right? Put your entire life on hold for the selfish whims of someone else; you're a woman and the bible tells you that you must be subjugate to the man? I believe that was one of the conditions under which God kicked Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden.

Lauren had to live through a marital and state sponsored torture that lasted years before she arrived at her present position. Having paid in much tears and heartache for her mistake, these days she is a lot less fundamentalist in her outlook and is moving forward in her life. Looking after herself and those dear to her.

Kind of a bit like Dove really.

 Oh I'd never advise anyone to remain in a toxic or abusive marriage ever. Divorce exists for a very good reason.

 I was raised by my more fundie grandmother and her sister.  In the Pentecostal church. I went to a private pentecostal school until middle school.

 I had to fight just to be able to date anyone outside the church. When ibwas "ready to court"....they started pushing me to find a husband.

 My aunt didn't approve of me going to college. She thought I should get a job and find a husband.  I still finished though. 

 I had a lot of guilt and pressure and got married quick. Twice. I was divorced twice by the time I was 25. The whole "you don't want to turn out like your mother" was a big thing...so I always felt like if I didn't settle down and do this God's way, I'm gonna end up like my mom 

 Those fundie beliefs are hard to get past if you've been raised in it. Its a lot of fear, shame and guilt.

 I do feel the "traditional" order for family is not for everyone. And women should never completely depend on a man. Men can and do cheat, leave, abuse.

 I knew the risks i was taking and I took them. I'm not a victim. I always had my own car and my own job up until he wanted to "try it God's way".

 My ex wanted a traditional, "biblical" marriage but he wouldn't stop letting his mother dictate our life. I was a third wheel so I removed myself.

 I was surprised by the lack of surprise from my daughters. And the support. They were fully on board with me divorcing from the very start

 They don't hate my ex. They just knew i was miserable and they felt he was wrong for me.

 They tell me all the time how much happier I just am. I heard my daughter on the phone with one of her friends talking about my divorce and she was like "wait until you see my mom. She is so much happier and looks so much happier"

 I mean hey I went back and tried again after the first time I was going to divorce. I tried very hard. The juice just wasn't worth the squeeze. 

Quote from: Dove on Today at 03:01:56 AMMy adult daughter, who has a medical weed card and two of her adukg friends who can all buy weed from the dispensary legally asked me a few months ago how 90s teens made bongs back in the day.

 So I showed them how I made bongs out of 20 Oz soda bottles and they thought it was hilarious.

 This triggered Oak, who keeps insisting I showed KIDS how to make a bong and thusly helped them in their drug use. And she compared it to exposing minors to strippers and strip clubs....which was unhinged as fuck.

 I showed ADULTS who can legally use weed, who had a glass water bong in the next room that my daughter purchased herself with money she earned at her job...all legally on her own....how kids in the 90s did it.

 None of them used my plastic ghetto bong nor did they need to as they are adults who bought their own actual bong.

 But Oak is stuck on calling them children and ranting about how I taught kids how to do pot.

 She's not going to connect with reality on this because the narrative she has suits her need to judge and condemn other people.

You did the Faygo/Vernors can and the apple too. 

Right of passage in the Upper and Lower... 

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on Today at 10:56:02 AMDepends

Anyone old enough to have been indoctrinated with hate towards me or mine would be going tho.

Loose ends bro.  I ain't leaving an opportunity for someone to get back at me decades from now

Now this is the context. I wouldn't ever start such a feud requiring this level of barbarism but I have no problems seeing it to completion. If brought to me unprovoked. No matter how ugly it gets

But would you kill newborn babies and toddlers?

Quote from: Dove on Today at 11:44:10 AMMostly I was correcting her because she kept on claiming I "taught kids how to use weed"

 These were adults who had a glass water bong right in the next room. I didn't teach them anything. I showed them what people used to do in the days of old...before legal weed use and internet access lol.

and you thought you could reason that salient point into that diseased cow's dysfunctional brain why again?

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on Today at 11:42:03 AMSame person who supports teaching children about the wonders of irreversible surgeries to promote a twisted sexual fetish which is nothing but a fad promoted by greedy surgeons and big pharma

nice

that's not hIPPOcritical at all.

why do you bother trying to reason with a bloated miserable rodent like that?

 Mostly I was correcting her because she kept on claiming I "taught kids how to use weed"

 These were adults who had a glass water bong right in the next room. I didn't teach them anything. I showed them what people used to do in the days of old...before legal weed use and internet access lol.

Quote from: Dove on Today at 11:38:04 AMI made a comment about how my daughter and her friends (two 21 year olds btw) deemed me the "cool mom" and applauded when I showed them how we used to make bongs out of soda bottles.

Which Oak saw as some threat and she immediately came at me with this either/or where she never was the "cool mom" but rather the "good mom"

I mean...why not both? My girls are adults. ADULTS. We are all gonna be voting together this November. 

I was strict on them when they were children and they've grown into kind, intelligent, responsible adults.

I say a lot I raised people I actually like lol.

The soda bottle bong was nothing compared to some of the stories my man has told them. Uhg. They will ask him all the time about what I was like back in high school and much to my chagrin...he tells them. And his eyes get all sparkly and he loves ratting me out   

Same person who supports teaching children about the wonders of irreversible surgeries to promote a twisted sexual fetish which is nothing but a fad promoted by greedy surgeons and big pharma

nice

that's not hIPPOcritical at all.

why do you bother trying to reason with a bloated miserable rodent like that?

Quote from: Dove on Today at 02:53:34 AMI'll let him know asap that the Chinese woman on a forum who sympathizes with my ex doesn't approve of our relationship.

There was a time when conservative Canadian investigative journalist Lauren Southern would have argued squarely from the Shen Li camp. Stick with the mistakes you made.... always... no matter what. And it was something that Lauren to her credit was prepared to live by herself.

Terrible marriage. Husband behaved like a total cunt, expected the impossible from the woman who had been prepared to fight and sacrifice everything she had to stand by her man. Because that's what you do, right? Put your entire life on hold for the selfish whims of someone else; you're a woman and the bible tells you that you must be subjugate to the man? I believe that was one of the conditions under which God kicked Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden.

Lauren had to live through a marital and state sponsored torture that lasted years before she arrived at her present position. Having paid in much tears and heartache for her mistake, these days she is a lot less fundamentalist in her outlook and is moving forward in her life. Looking after herself and those dear to her.

Kind of a bit like Dove really.