The stock market and economy are crashing either way.

The democrats have already dumped in enough poison pills to ensure that outcome so that if Trump wins they can blame him and their lemmings will accept

and if he is cheated out of office once again they'll just tell their lemming base to grin and bear it, or just say nothing at all and their lemming based will accept

they know wrecking the economy is win win for them as it is not like any of them will have to suffer the consequence. Or so they believe.

Quote from: DKG on Today at 08:50:21 AMI have read that several top Ukrainian generals want Zelensky to negotiate a surrender treaty wih Moscow. The outspoken military leaders have been dismissed, jailed or are in exile.

DEMOCRACY!!!!!![/b]

Quote from: Garraty_47 on Today at 08:36:55 AMZelensky and others have pocketed fortunes, no doubt, but Ukraine's biggest problem is that they've run out of soldiers to throw into the meat grinder. We could send them all the guns and tanks and artillery shells in the world but without soldiers to use them what good are they?

I suspect that's why Macron and others have started making noises about sending NATO/western troops into Ukraine; they know full well that Ukraine's military ranks have been decimated and even if they can somehow scrape together replacements they'll be untrained inexperienced and dead themselves before long.

Ukraine was never going to defeat Russia.
The only question is how many more Ukrainians have to be killed before Zelensky or whoever replaces him comes to the negotiating table (for real this time) and accepts Russia's terms of surrender.

Hence the urgency in getting the likely broker for peace, Donald J Trump, imprisoned, killed, cheated or pulled out of the mix by any means necessary.

and they've convinced their lemming base this is all justified because a couple of rednecks loitering in Nancy Pelosi's office, some mean tweets and the desire to have a clearly defined and defended border. 

Quote from: Odinson on Today at 05:16:55 AMApparently Ukraines northern border has no defense.

The ukes most likely pocketed all the cash intended for building defensive lines.

Ukraine is a biden money laundering operation.

corruption - how else does a guy who spent 50 years in politics at an average salary of 150 - 200,000 year become a multi millionaire

Ukraine probably has one or two sites with defensive positions which have US provided gear and embedded media stooges to keep the charade going for their lemming base

Wasn't this same topic discussed not long ago?

Anyway, my answer is the same:

If you want to worry about the economy tanking forget domestic policy (capitalists aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot over which figurehead gets to sit in the oval office) and pay attention to de-dollarization and the economic realignments being led by BRICS.

The world's justifiably seeking alternatives to the weaponized dollar and when those changes happen on a large enough scale we're not just talking about one bad quarterly outlook; it's going to be long-term if not permanent.

Quote from: DKG on Today at 08:50:21 AMI have read that several top Ukrainian generals want Zelensky to negotiate a surrender treaty wih Moscow. The outspoken military leaders have been dismissed, jailed or are in exile.

I can imagine that somewhere out there is a secretly recorded video of Biden threatening to withhold cash shipments to Ukraine unless Zelensky fires everyone who doesn't want the conflict to continue.

I mean, it's not like Biden hasn't pulled that shit before...

I'm starting ta wonder.

Oh and btw, this isn't even my opinion or prediction. But those mostly Right Wing/conservative Trump supporters in the United States. A lot of them have expressed this anxiety on YouTube & other social media platforms.

And it isn't necessarily Trump's fault.

More like - I believe the US economy may be prime pumped right now before the election & itll be done to make the current administration & Biden look good cuz the people who control the system support him.

However if Trump gets in they'd rather it all comes crashing down under his watch so he gets all the blame. In other words they'll prop up a faltering economy for Biden but not for Trump.

Any thoughts on this?

Is there a conspiracy/plan to pass all the blame onto Trump? Will his supporters be punished for voting him back in?

Or...is this analysis wrong?

Will it go parabolic the other way where another Trump presidency will be a catalyst to spur renewed economic growth?

Quote from: DKG on Today at 08:26:31 AMFlorida's governor has shown with his new ban on lab-grown meat that he only trusts consumers and freedom of choice so long as it doesn't disrupt the status quo
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) will not live in the pod, and he will not eat the bugs. In fact, he will make sure no one in Florida ever does — even if they want to.

Last week, the governor signed SB 1084, making Florida the first U.S. state to ban "lab-grown meat" for consumers. Despite a fresh federal seal of approval for the chicken variety of cultivated meat, DeSantis has taken it upon himself to remove the consumer's choice for these meat alternatives in the name of combating the "globalists" of the World Economic Forum.

Good. That shit is unnatural and its just a matter of time before its revealed that it isnt safe.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on Today at 08:36:55 AMI suspect that's why Macron and others have started making noises about sending NATO/western troops into Ukraine; they know full well that Ukraine's military ranks have been decimated and even if they can somehow scrape together replacements they'll be untrained inexperienced and dead themselves before long.

I have read that several top Ukrainian generals want Zelensky to negotiate a surrender treaty wih Moscow. The outspoken military leaders have been dismissed, jailed or are in exile.

Quote from: Conservative Perspective on Today at 07:24:52 AMNorth Dakota gov, former presidential candidate Doug Burgum front and center at Trump New Jersey rally

North Dakota Gov. and former presidential candidate Doug Burgum appeared at Donald Trump's massive campaign rally in New Jersey on Saturday, fueling speculation he could be Trump's VP pick.

Source: North Dakota gov, former presidential candidate Doug Burgum front and center at Trump New Jersey rally

I saw this thread after I posted about it in Politics.