Trump guilty on all counts in New York criminal trial

Former President Trump was found guilty on all counts in his historic and unprecedented criminal trial, making him the first former president of the United States to be convicted of a crime.

Source: Trump guilty on all counts in New York criminal trial

Quote from: JOE on Today at 12:55:52 AMWithout being that familiar with thos court case & being unaligned with either side, I'd have to say the verdict seemed too severe. Usu an accused is found guilty of a portion of the counts. But Trump? They threw the entire book at him. Guilty on all accounts. That does seem rather extreme and usu such verdicts are reserved for mass murderers not white collar crime.

On youtube a 1.5 hour speech of him talking to Minnesota people he outlined what he is going to do...

Apparently Biden undone a lot of things he made law. He is going to ban children being given hormone treatment for starters.

Let me find it...hang on. Watch in your own time and it is worthwhile.

It's pretty good. I like the casual way he delivers.

Quote from: JOE on May 30, 2024, 07:25:03 PMWhile I'm no fan of Trump Bigly, I wonder why Trump is feared compared to George W Bush who came before him.

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They talk about Trump dismantling democracy in America & taking away all your rights, but I think a lot of that had already been done during the W Bush administration with the Democrats looking on in approval. Obama rolled back many rights of Americans too. Some of the things his administration did were appalling

 Well if you know what "dismantling democracy" actually means when they say it....it makes sense.

 They are panicking because Trump can start investigations into all the criminal and horrible shit that has been done. The Bidens...Fauci...Clinton's.

 Imagine the covid investigations.

Quote from: caskur on Today at 12:11:23 AMJoe, the left are no longer the left of the old days where their main concern was for working men's rights.

I feel he did more right things than wrong things... what do you think?

Without being that familiar with thos court case & being unaligned with either side, I'd have to say the verdict seemed too severe. Usu an accused is found guilty of a portion of the counts. But Trump? They threw the entire book at him. Guilty on all accounts. That does seem rather extreme and usu such verdicts are reserved for mass murderers not white collar crime.

Quote from: JOE on May 30, 2024, 10:03:44 PMEither way, American politics is such a circus.

I think we and the UK are also circuses with America being the worst.

They are doing this to Trump because he has money and donations and the courts want it, they want the money. Justice has nothing to do with it.

They are so transparent to me.

Quote from: JOE on May 30, 2024, 09:46:44 PMIn all seriousness Herman Herm I'm not sure what to make of this verdict.

Have to examine and read about it more before judging it.
so I'm more or less neutral on the topic.

That being said, it does seem rather severe that Trump was found guilty on 34 out of 34.

Joe, the left are no longer the left of the old days where their main concern was for working men's rights. They have gone completely nuts and they are using us because it's about power now.

I not saying the right is better either... we have two extremists and both extremes are causing a great divide. We have to recognize it and we have to be clever about it..  I see Trump as being closer to middle ground because he isn't one of them power hungry politicians but a man who wants to work everything out... I could be wrong but I don't get that feeling.

I feel he did more right things than wrong things... what do you think?

Quote from: Herman on May 30, 2024, 09:45:33 PMBetween now and July 11, Trump will be able to move about as he pleases. He will also no longer have to adhere to gag-order restrictions which previously prevented him from discussing witnesses or the judge and his family members. Trump has previously noted that Merchan's daughter is a political consultant who raises funds for high-profile Democrats such as Rep. Adam Schiff of California.

Trump will also likely participate in a pre-sentencing interview with a probation officer, who will then submit a sentencing report to Merchan.

Judge Merchan will have almost exclusive authority to determine Trump's sentence, and he has several options to consider, including jail.

Though Trump has been convicted of 34 felonies, they are nonviolent, class E felonies, the least serious in the state of New York, and often don't result in jail time. Trump also has no prior criminal record and at 77 years old is not likely to be a threat to the public, all factors that could play in his favor.

Cheryl Bader, a law professor at Fordham University, thinks it's "unlikely" that Merchan will give Trump time behind bars. "Given that he is a former president, has a Secret Service detail and is also the presumptive Republican nominee, I think a term of incarceration would be logistically very difficult," she told the Guardian,

But that is exactly why he might go to jail...  no one thought he was going to be convicted and he was...they would kill him if they could.

The new left are indeed vermin encouraging this trans problem for instance... after watching that female judge for approving a 6'2" or 4" rapist and paedophile  who still had his dick and knackers into a female prison, I now believe no woman should be allowed in any authorative position at all.

Now you don't know me well enough to know what I just said was an extreme conception on my part but females have become fucking twisted and need to be out of controlling positions.

People are donating to Trump again... the site is back up.

I think Biden will die in his sleep. People with Alzheimers only live 12 years after contracting it.  There will be more twists and turns to come.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on May 30, 2024, 10:48:37 PMI can see it now.

Biden: "I'm not going to debate a convicted felon. "

because like all other sleazy lefttards he is a coward

watch

If that's the case, he won't be able to talk to Hunter very soon.

I can see it now.

Biden: "I'm not going to debate a convicted felon. "

because like all other sleazy lefttards he is a coward

watch

Quote from: DKG on May 30, 2024, 07:19:46 PMPrecisely. This is what the writer was referring to when they said Biden has weaponized the dollar.

I read something an op-ed in the Singapore Straits Times about this.