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Posted by .
 - April 18, 2025, 04:38:18 AM
Quote from: Brent on April 16, 2025, 01:19:49 PMCanadians aren't buying Liberal Leader Mark Carney's promise that he's working on a magical new carbon tax where "big polluters" pay the costs instead of the public for the good reason that no such tax exists.

A survey by Leger for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation of 1,631 adults from April 4-7 found that 70% of Canadians believe businesses pass along most (44%) or some (26%) of the added costs they face to the public because of the federal industrial carbon tax.

Only 9% believe businesses absorb most of the costs without hiking prices, while 21% say they don't know.

That means among those with an opinion, 89% believe businesses will pass along most or some of their added costs to the public.

Meanwhile, we're still waiting for the details of Carney's magical carbon pricing plan, which he introduced while running for Liberal leader, claiming it would make "big polluters' pay for industrial emissions.

From what little we know of it, Carney intends to fold the consumer carbon tax on 22 different forms of fossil fuel energy, including gasoline and home heating fuel, into an "improved and tightened" industrial carbon tax, while extending its current application by five years to 2035 from 2030.

That means that, unlike the current system, Canadians won't know how much they're paying or how it will impact their standard of living because the carbon price will be hidden from them, given that consumer prices are impacted by a variety of factors.
I haven't looked so forgive me, but... is there any language about carbon credit trading in the proposed changes?

Because if there is then "the biggest polluters" will skate as they always have.
Posted by Shen Li
 - April 17, 2025, 10:18:30 PM
Quote from: Herman on April 16, 2025, 07:18:25 PM
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Quote from: Herman on April 16, 2025, 07:18:25 PM
There is no denying that climate zealotry has forced so many Westerners into energy poverty.
Posted by Herman
 - April 17, 2025, 08:59:42 PM
Without Donald Trump, Conman Carney would not have a leg to stand on.
Posted by Herman
 - April 16, 2025, 07:18:25 PM
Posted by Brent
 - April 16, 2025, 01:19:49 PM
Canadians aren't buying Liberal Leader Mark Carney's promise that he's working on a magical new carbon tax where "big polluters" pay the costs instead of the public for the good reason that no such tax exists.

A survey by Leger for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation of 1,631 adults from April 4-7 found that 70% of Canadians believe businesses pass along most (44%) or some (26%) of the added costs they face to the public because of the federal industrial carbon tax.

Only 9% believe businesses absorb most of the costs without hiking prices, while 21% say they don't know.

That means among those with an opinion, 89% believe businesses will pass along most or some of their added costs to the public.

Meanwhile, we're still waiting for the details of Carney's magical carbon pricing plan, which he introduced while running for Liberal leader, claiming it would make "big polluters' pay for industrial emissions.

From what little we know of it, Carney intends to fold the consumer carbon tax on 22 different forms of fossil fuel energy, including gasoline and home heating fuel, into an "improved and tightened" industrial carbon tax, while extending its current application by five years to 2035 from 2030.

That means that, unlike the current system, Canadians won't know how much they're paying or how it will impact their standard of living because the carbon price will be hidden from them, given that consumer prices are impacted by a variety of factors.
Posted by Herman
 - April 13, 2025, 07:55:27 PM
Posted by Brent
 - April 13, 2025, 12:58:09 PM
Carney is bringing back the Online Harms Act which died when Trudeau prorogued parliament. He is planning on using the excuse of misogyny to crack down on digital free speech the Liberal Party does not like.
Posted by Shen Li
 - April 11, 2025, 10:13:56 PM
Mark Carnage promised to continue puberty blockers and gender reassignment surgeries for minors.

I don't how he plans to do that since health care delivery is a provincial responsibility. My former province has a ban on anyone under the age of 16 receiving surgery or the chemical castration drugs. This will be another issue to pit Ottawa against provinces.
Posted by Herman
 - April 11, 2025, 07:11:38 PM
Posted by Brent
 - April 11, 2025, 12:53:07 PM
It's the Liberals' environmental policy that scared away at least $300 billion in investment — investment that could have made us stronger in the face of Trump's attacks. Not to mention the tens of thousands of jobs lost. It's the Liberals' "green" obsession that cancelled pipelines that could already be operating to the East and West Coasts in defiance of Trump.

They were the ones who promised a middle-class tax cut during the 2015 campaign, then raised family taxes by $6,000 or more during their time in office.
Posted by Brent
 - April 11, 2025, 12:44:15 PM
The $200 billion green energy grift continues and will get bigger and costlier for all of us under Carney.

From Postmedia
Quotetaxpayers are getting good value for money spent, totalling more than $200 billion, distributed by the Liberals through 150 government programs administered by 13 federal departments to reduce emissions.

The total number of programs ostensibly aimed at reducing emissions increases to 202 if you include joint agreements between the feds and the provinces and territories.

An investigation by auditor general Karen Hogan of the now-disbanded $1-billion Sustainable Development Technology Fund, aka "the green slush fund", suggests many of these programs may be rife with fraud.

Others, according to environment commissioner Jerry DeMarco, lack transparency and may be overestimating and/or double-counting emission cuts, as well as basing their calculations on outdated computer modelling.

Given Carney's plan to continue imposing carbon taxes on Canadians through the Liberals' industrial carbon tax and by imposing tariffs on many imported goods — raising prices for Canadian consumers — this $200 billion-plus fiasco cries out for a forensic audit.

Especially given that parliamentary budget officer Yves Giroux has reported that Canada's emissions — at 1.5% of the global total — are too small to materially impact climate change.
Posted by Herman
 - April 10, 2025, 07:06:45 PM
How much money did this grifter stuff into tax havens exactly?
Posted by Brent
 - April 10, 2025, 12:59:05 PM
Life under Makr Carney will be expensive. And then all the jobs that will be lost with emissions caps, C-69, and his Net Zero UN crap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wteXo5eqVCU
Posted by horse sense
 - April 10, 2025, 10:34:50 AM
Quote from: DKG on April 10, 2025, 10:09:38 AMI have always favoured market solutions over government inefficiency.

Canada's Environmental Impact Assessment would have been the first thing eliminated if Trump was president. It wastes public and private money with the end result always no development.

Poilivere recognizes that and that is why he will repeal it and streamline regulations to get energy to new markets.
All well and good.

I'm still disappointed that he is acting like a liberal in creating government departments though.
Posted by DKG
 - April 10, 2025, 10:09:38 AM
Quote from: horse sense on April 10, 2025, 10:00:31 AMAnd I'll repeat now; "instead of", not "as well as". Look, I know a few of you here think the solution to govern more effectively is to create more government, I've long been of the opinion that government of any stripe is a fundamentally inefficient way of getting shit done and that creating more of it simply results in more inefficiency.

Get the government out of the way as much as is possible, stop paying for the non-productive flunkies to fatten their arses in office chairs while dreaming up new and ever more ridiculous fantasies of why they need to keep drawing a paycheque. I'm not calling for anarcho-capitalism here, but it seems to me you could get those pipelines laid a lot faster with less bullshit from public servants whose understanding of what is involved needs to be spoonfed to them by a bunch of advisors and activists.
I have always favoured market solutions over government inefficiency.

Canada's Environmental Impact Assessment would have been the first thing eliminated if Trump was president. It wastes public and private money with the end result always no development.

Poilivere recognizes that and that is why he will repeal it and streamline regulations to get energy to new markets.