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- Today at 06:15:42 AMQuote from: DKG on May 07, 2025, 09:53:17 AMThe NDP collapsed across Canada. Their seven seats do not even give them official party status. The Green Party vote was down too.The NDP were going after the middle class lefty vote in 2015, having abandoned their friendlier stance towards the welfare basket cases, so yes - they were dividing the boat then, And yes, it would appear they lost their quest to win over the middle class and lost their traditional base in the process. Aesop's "Dog With Two Bones" and all that.
That is terrible news for the Conservatives if Canada becomes a two party state with all the leftists under the Liberal tent. In a centre-left country like Canada, the corrupt Liberals are a permanent governing party.
The Greens... yeah... I'm not surprised they are losing ground. The tree hugging hippie movement of the 1960s has aged out and is getting down to the business of pushing up daisies at this point. Explains why they are shifting their focus towards neutering the human population in so many jurisdictions.
However, there is an upside to this you might have missed. Take a look at the US democrat party; they've already become the rallying point for an innumerable count of disparate activist movements, so much so that the level of internal bickering about policies to suit the various movements that at the last election there was only one thing they could all agree on; namely "orangeman bad". Anything else they might have shoehorned in as genuine policy ran the risk of offending enough of their voter base and they couldn't risk that. The Liberal Party in Canada will likely fall prey to similar political ennui if they subsume any more "fringe interests" and you will doubtless find more of the Canadian electorate voting conservative as a result.
You have to ask yourself if you want those people voting alongside you for your ridings. Knowing a good number of them are activistic crybabies, I'd suggest you wouldn't want them dragging the conservative party any further left than it is already, because the average conservative has demonstrated a willingness to "go along to get along" to the left. You need to get as loud as the left I suspect... louder even. Yeah, it's not something you want to do, but then neither is being forced to live as some filthy leftie commie animal either.
Posted by Shen Li
- May 08, 2025, 08:20:58 PMQuote from: Herman on May 08, 2025, 03:55:44 PMChatGPT estimates Albertans pay about $20 BILLION / year more to Ottawa than we get from Ottawa. If Ottawa gave back that $20 Billion they take from us every year instead of transfers to Quebec, etc., then Alberta could cut personal tax rates to ZERO, with billions to spare! This is like 9 US states (Texas, South Dakota, Wyoming, etc.) who do not have to subsidize the rest of a country.Alberta could be the richest jurisdiction in the world if they leave Canada.
It doesn't matter if they became a US state or independent. Either option makes Albertans a lot richer and freer. Canada on the other hand would be desperately poor.
Posted by JOE
- May 08, 2025, 04:15:20 PMThe NDP fell on it's own sword because of mismanagement & faulty party procedures. Its self evident that certain groups stacked the membership which allowed an unpopular leader to get elected.
They need massive reforms to ensure it doesn't happen again. Even their interim leader Don Davies would have been a better choice than Jagmeet Singh.
The NDP went from over 100 seats to less than 10 over the years. That's a 10 fold decrease in parliamentary representation.
They need massive reforms to ensure it doesn't happen again. Even their interim leader Don Davies would have been a better choice than Jagmeet Singh.
The NDP went from over 100 seats to less than 10 over the years. That's a 10 fold decrease in parliamentary representation.
Posted by Herman
- May 08, 2025, 03:56:50 PM
Posted by Herman
- May 08, 2025, 03:55:44 PMChatGPT estimates Albertans pay about $20 BILLION / year more to Ottawa than we get from Ottawa. If Ottawa gave back that $20 Billion they take from us every year instead of transfers to Quebec, etc., then Alberta could cut personal tax rates to ZERO, with billions to spare! This is like 9 US states (Texas, South Dakota, Wyoming, etc.) who do not have to subsidize the rest of a country.
Posted by Herman
- May 08, 2025, 03:42:29 PMSmith laid out exactly what Ottawa has done and why it can't continue.
✘ Pipelines blocked and major energy projects cancelled by Ottawa
✘ Carbon taxes and production caps driving investment out of Alberta
✘ Net-zero power mandates putting Alberta's grid at risk
✘ New federal rules and taxes punishing farmers and ranchers
✘ Interference in healthcare, child care, and other provincial services
✘ Courts ignored and the Constitution pushed aside
Premier Smith made one thing clear — Alberta didn't pick this fight, but we will finish it and come out of it stronger and more prosperous than ever.
✘ Pipelines blocked and major energy projects cancelled by Ottawa
✘ Carbon taxes and production caps driving investment out of Alberta
✘ Net-zero power mandates putting Alberta's grid at risk
✘ New federal rules and taxes punishing farmers and ranchers
✘ Interference in healthcare, child care, and other provincial services
✘ Courts ignored and the Constitution pushed aside
Premier Smith made one thing clear — Alberta didn't pick this fight, but we will finish it and come out of it stronger and more prosperous than ever.
Posted by DKG
- May 07, 2025, 09:53:17 AMQuote from: . on May 07, 2025, 04:37:38 AMThe NDP did lose a fair bit of support in the last election though. I assumed it was partly a function of NDP voters recognizing their party couldn't make the nut at the federal level and that they anticipated the liberals were about to be handed their asses too. That was certainly the sentiment in Ottawa around 2015, I know a few NDP supporters that dropped Angry Tommy to throw cast their vote for Trudeaup.The NDP collapsed across Canada. Their seven seats do not even give them official party status. The Green Party vote was down too.
I'd be interested to see if buyers remorse shifts MB sentiment towards secession, particularly after Carnage's recent White House meeting with Trump. Guaranteed access to international waters would be teriffic, especially when it comes to oil exports, so having Manitoba on board would be ideal. But it's not a dealbreaker if you don't get it. I should think even in the absence of formal inclusion into the union you'd still be able to get some decent trade deals going with the US, far superior than the ones you currently enjoy with Canada at any rate... and being included in the US improves matters immeasurably.
That is terrible news for the Conservatives if Canada becomes a two party state with all the leftists under the Liberal tent. In a centre-left country like Canada, the corrupt Liberals are a permanent governing party.
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- May 07, 2025, 04:37:38 AMQuote from: Herman on May 05, 2025, 07:07:19 PMThe Southern suburbs of Winnipeg down to the US border are prairie conservatives. There is widespread support for leaving Canada.The NDP did lose a fair bit of support in the last election though. I assumed it was partly a function of NDP voters recognizing their party couldn't make the nut at the federal level and that they anticipated the liberals were about to be handed their asses too. That was certainly the sentiment in Ottawa around 2015, I know a few NDP supporters that dropped Angry Tommy to throw cast their vote for Trudeaup.
The rest of the province is NDP/Liberal. It's too bad because all of Manitoba would give us access to international waters.
I'd be interested to see if buyers remorse shifts MB sentiment towards secession, particularly after Carnage's recent White House meeting with Trump. Guaranteed access to international waters would be teriffic, especially when it comes to oil exports, so having Manitoba on board would be ideal. But it's not a dealbreaker if you don't get it. I should think even in the absence of formal inclusion into the union you'd still be able to get some decent trade deals going with the US, far superior than the ones you currently enjoy with Canada at any rate... and being included in the US improves matters immeasurably.
Posted by Herman
- May 06, 2025, 06:10:54 PM
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- May 06, 2025, 06:02:52 PM
Posted by Shen Li
- May 05, 2025, 11:16:46 PMThe US will soon be bordering 2 third world countries.
Posted by Herman
- May 05, 2025, 07:07:19 PMQuoteManitoba's distribution of numbers were the closest, however if they could be convinced to jump ship with Alberta and Saskatchewan, there would at the very least address the issue of the fledgeling nation being otherwise landlocked. @Herman could probably tell you how likely or unlikely such a flip would be; he's the closest geographically currently posting here and might be able to inform us on any public sentiment the Canadian media is letting go unreported.The Southern suburbs of Winnipeg down to the US border are prairie conservatives. There is widespread support for leaving Canada.
The rest of the province is NDP/Liberal. It's too bad because all of Manitoba would give us access to international waters.
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- May 04, 2025, 09:38:33 PMQuote from: Lokmar on May 04, 2025, 01:35:34 PMI hold out hope that cucks will eventually get fed up and elect a Trump type.It was largely because of Trump that Canada found itself with a liberal government. You might be familiar with the parochial rivalries between the two nations; well Poilievre was actually enjoying popularity which all but assured the conservatives victory... right up until the tariffs were put in place to force revised trade agreements. That's when they started to flip on the back of a bunch of scaremongering from the liberals, most notably in the eastern provinces.
The conservatives did see an upward swing of support over 2021, but at the end of the day it wasn't enough; the libtards also garnered an upswing of support too, much of it at the expense of the NDP (progtards) who have suffered a massive drop in popularity. Canada employs a "first past the post" system (which Trudeaup ran on a platform of removing in 2015) and with 200 of Canada's 343 electoral districts being located in Ontario and Quebec, pretty much whatever happens there drags the rest of the country along for the ride. Only Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba came out in support of a conservative government. Manitoba's distribution of numbers were the closest, however if they could be convinced to jump ship with Alberta and Saskatchewan, there would at the very least address the issue of the fledgeling nation being otherwise landlocked. @Herman could probably tell you how likely or unlikely such a flip would be; he's the closest geographically currently posting here and might be able to inform us on any public sentiment the Canadian media is letting go unreported.
A side note, I notice Australia's recent election seems to have fallen to libtard interests too. I was surprised to learn that actually, but it seems their conservative coalition (the senior party of which is called the Liberal party, go figure) fell victim to what I can only describe as pants-wetting terror that they might have been considered white supreme pizzas. While the lesser represented of the coalition's two parties barely lost a seat, the Liberal party got decimated... meaning four more years of Labour and its clown prince Anal running things into the ground.
The coalition is weak as piss though, and the guy heading it (Peter Dutton) a complete nerd. In fact he reminds me of Devin Townshend's Ziltoid the Omniscient (also a nerd). And yet, just like his Canadian counterpart, he was crushing it... right up to the point when Trump said "fuck this tariff imbalance shit, the US is getting screwed". Hey, I'm not blaming the guy, the US has been paying for the rest of the world to have a good time for how long now? And it's not like Canada's or Australia's press is in the habit of giving The Don honest representations of his effectiveness as a world leader. This is the result.
I suspect the US would be best to seek out new friends. Strong friends, ones that show true grit and a willingness to stand on their own two feet instead of whining for handouts. Javier Milei springs to mind. It is increasingly apparent to me her traditional allies are being brainwashed into rampant libtardism, possibly in an attempt to cancel the world's premier superpower and its peoples for the heinous crime of Wrongthink... for demanding the kinds of autonomy and self determination that your average globalist is haram. "Just do as we tell you, helpless victim; your government will provide you all that it deems you need."
Posted by Thiel
- May 04, 2025, 02:52:34 PMQuote from: Lokmar on May 04, 2025, 01:35:34 PMI hold out hope that cucks will eventually get fed up and elect a Trump type.Don't hold your breath.
It would be like California electing a populist like Ron Desantis as governor. Neither will ever happen.
Posted by Lokmar
- May 04, 2025, 01:35:34 PMI hold out hope that cucks will eventually get fed up and elect a Trump type.