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Posted by DKG
- Today at 11:52:46 AMQuote from: . on Today at 07:00:49 AMAs long as people recognise the sense in it. I only bring it up because earlier on I got the impression from speaking to you that you regarded it as a "one or the other" proposition, not a necessary precursor. Or indeed a preferable alternative to what you currently have if that's as far as you ever got with secession.I hope it never comes to that. If it does come to Alberta and Saskatchewan having reached the magical fifty percent plus one in a referendum, that is when will get really ugly as the feds interpret the Clarity Act for the own advantage.
Either way... "good luck". I mean that Herman, it's not an easy fight, but it IS a worthwhile one.
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- Today at 07:00:49 AMQuote from: Herman on June 02, 2025, 03:43:02 PMEven lawyer Jeffrey Rath who is fifty first state supporter recognizes that.As long as people recognise the sense in it. I only bring it up because earlier on I got the impression from speaking to you that you regarded it as a "one or the other" proposition, not a necessary precursor. Or indeed a preferable alternative to what you currently have if that's as far as you ever got with secession.
Either way... "good luck". I mean that Herman, it's not an easy fight, but it IS a worthwhile one.
Posted by Herman
- June 02, 2025, 03:43:02 PMQuote from: . on June 01, 2025, 02:48:42 AMAgreed. But do seek the necessary step of gaining your independence first. It strengthens your case immeasurably when you prove your mettle first and makes you an even more attractive prospect when all the US has to do is negotiate with you and you alone before inking a contract.Even lawyer Jeffrey Rath who is fifty first state supporter recognizes that.
Posted by DKG
- June 01, 2025, 10:07:42 AMQuote from: . on June 01, 2025, 02:48:42 AMAgreed. But do seek the necessary step of gaining your independence first. It strengthens your case immeasurably when you prove your mettle first and makes you an even more attractive prospect when all the US has to do is negotiate with you and you alone before inking a contract.I am not from the West. But, I know the threat of Canada breaking up is real and will grow in the Liberals fourth term.
But, from reading Herman's posts independence first is a must.
Posted by .
- June 01, 2025, 02:48:42 AMQuote from: Shen Li on May 31, 2025, 07:36:53 PMEven if you choose to become an independent state, seek economic union with the US. Use their currency.Agreed. But do seek the necessary step of gaining your independence first. It strengthens your case immeasurably when you prove your mettle first and makes you an even more attractive prospect when all the US has to do is negotiate with you and you alone before inking a contract.
Posted by Shen Li
- May 31, 2025, 07:36:53 PMQuote from: Herman on May 31, 2025, 06:07:59 PMWe prairie folks will be so much better off after we ditch that canonball attached to our legs called Canada.Even if you choose to become an independent state, seek economic union with the US. Use their currency.
Posted by Herman
- May 31, 2025, 06:07:59 PMWe prairie folks will be so much better off after we ditch that canonball attached to our legs called Canada.
Posted by Thiel
- May 31, 2025, 04:59:05 PMQuote from: Herman on May 30, 2025, 03:32:11 PMAs these forums get smaller Joe gets more desperate to get under folks skin. Responding to folks that cannot read his posts is an example of that.Every night.
Get him back on his shins.
Posted by Shen Li
- May 30, 2025, 08:30:59 PMCanada is the least stable advanced economy. It faces the bleakeat future.
Posted by Herman
- May 30, 2025, 03:32:11 PMQuote from: Thiel on May 30, 2025, 01:33:02 PMSweetie, remember what I told you about responding to a post after you gave me oral sex this morning? Read it then reply to it. Don't ignore and then derail it with something not related to the post.As these forums get smaller Joe gets more desperate to get under folks skin. Responding to folks that cannot read his posts is an example of that.
Herman said that if the prairie provinces leave then Canada is done. And he has backed it up to show that the way your country funds itself would have to undergo radical change if those two provinces left.
Understand now Honeybuns or do you need to get on your knees again?
Get him back on his shins.
Posted by Thiel
- May 30, 2025, 01:33:02 PMQuote from: JOE on May 30, 2025, 06:58:53 AMUnfortunately for you, Canada is not coming to an End, hey HermanSweetie, remember what I told you about responding to a post after you gave me oral sex this morning? Read it then reply to it. Don't ignore and then derail it with something not related to the post.Herm?
It will still exist as a nation fully intact by the time you die, hey Herm?
Herman said that if the prairie provinces leave then Canada is done. And he has backed it up to show that the way your country funds itself would have to undergo radical change if those two provinces left.
Understand now Honeybuns or do you need to get on your knees again?
Posted by .
- May 30, 2025, 12:36:51 PMQuote from: DKG on May 30, 2025, 10:32:57 AMIt is what would after a yes vote where Ottawa's true colours will show.Oh, there will be tomfuckery for sure, I can all but guarantee it. You're not just yeeting a bunch of of their mineral resources in the form of the tar sands, you are also putting the future of Canada's Pacific trade in jeopardy. I imagine that last one is going to come up in the negotiation stage and the expectation will likely be that they secure the right to continue using Alberta's roads and railway infrastructure to move their shit about.
Chuggie suggested banning that. I tend to think charging them like a wounded bull and subjecting them to interminable checkswould be a better rave myself. You could recoup some of the money you lost to Quebec that way.
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- May 30, 2025, 11:47:56 AMQuote from: DKG on May 30, 2025, 10:30:55 AMThere was one Brexit vote.Tell that to Carl Benjamin. Better yet, tell it to Nigel Farrage. The question was put before the UK populace no less than three times using a variety of excuses of why they needed to keep revisiting the issue and by members of the British Parliament whose interests in the EU precluded a split because it would hurt their personal bottom lines.
And in the end, exactly what did they get? Sure, Britain professes to be an independent entity, but they are still subject to agreements that effectively render them subservient to Brussels. It sure doesn't seem to have addressed the proliferation of Pakistani rape gangs, the 20,000 cases per annum that the teenage British girls are supposed to submit to, the decimation of English culture nor "two-tier Kier's" prosecutions of native and "racist" Englishmen that dare comment upon it.
You can argue the toss with me if you prefer to. Or if you're serious about Alberta getting it's best foot forward, you can study the minutia of Britain's example and figure out ways to avoid the same mistakes that they made.
Like trusting their elected leaders to do the right thing just because they are making all the right noises. That's a pretty big one.
Posted by DKG
- May 30, 2025, 10:32:57 AMQuote from: . on May 29, 2025, 01:32:12 PMI wouldn't presume to call DKG a prog, but it does rather seem that his account differs from yours a bit.It is what would after a yes vote where Ottawa's true colours will show.
Posted by DKG
- May 30, 2025, 10:30:55 AMQuote from: . on May 29, 2025, 01:34:37 PMAbsolutely it won't. It only needs to grease the palms of the necessary people required to stop it dead in its tracks. Look at how many referenda were required to get Britain out of the EU.There was one Brexit vote.