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Posted by Shen Li
- July 14, 2025, 08:28:51 PMQuote from: DKG on July 14, 2025, 09:59:08 AMThe tragedy is that the people that are leaving are highly productive people like yourself. We are falling so far behind the US. Our future is going to be very bleak unless the Liberal Party returns to what it was in the 1990's.Old white Canadians are the problem. If Canada is to return to it's wealthy middle class nation status they must die off first.
Posted by Shen Li
- July 14, 2025, 08:25:45 PMQuote from: Herman on July 14, 2025, 02:19:32 PMUnlike old poor as fuck Joe, I have been all over the world and that includes South Korea. They aint got anything close to the tent cities hunger and poverty that we got in this country.Anybody that has been to South Korea and Canada can see Canada has more povery. I mean the real despair kind too.
Damn, we are falling fast.
Posted by JOE
- July 14, 2025, 05:56:54 PMQuote from: Shen Li on July 13, 2025, 01:11:19 AMEnjoy your impoverished frozen hellhole.
Well Shen Li
Shen I decided to take my retirement this year.I figgered better now than later.
One noticeable trend is many countries are RAISING their retirement age. The new normal will be 67 and above.
USA might raise theirs to 70. Its 67 for them now. Denmark will increase theirs to 70. The other Scandinavian countries are going up to. Sngapore will increase to 64.
So a person oughta apply for it now while the retirement age is still reasonable, eh?
Posted by Herman
- July 14, 2025, 02:19:32 PMQuote from: Thiel on July 14, 2025, 01:22:46 PMPussycat, remember what I told you this morning after you performed oral on me about posting misleading YouTube videos.Unlike old poor as fuck Joe, I have been all over the world and that includes South Korea. They aint got anything close to the tent cities hunger and poverty that we got in this country.
First of all Sweetie, it's Costa Rica that has the highest poverty rate among OECD countries, not South Korea. Anyway, if you look at South Korea's poverty rate it is skewed by so many poor seniors since they were the last rich country to implement a mandatory pension plan.
Canada on the other hand is the opposite. Most of the poverty occurring among much younger ages. Did you know Canada has the fastest growing poverty rate among OECD nations? Did you know that Sugarplum?
Did you also know that one quarter of Canadians live in poverty and that number has been rising every year for year? Did you know that too Honeybuns?
Canada also has one of the lowest GDP growth rates among OECD nations which is quickly growing Canada's army of poor people.
We're Getting Poorer
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/were-getting-poorer-gdp-per-capita-in-canada-and-oecd-2002-2060
One in four people living in poverty according to international metrics and not the false ones Ottawa uses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MdmjnwgNPQ
So, be grateful productive citizens like Mr DKG are staying. Too many of Canada's productive citizens are fleeing.
Damn, we are falling fast.
Posted by Herman
- July 14, 2025, 02:17:02 PMQuote from: Biggie Smiles on July 14, 2025, 02:04:30 PMI love the way JOEJ tries to deny thiel every time that thiel discloses that he is in a sexual relationship with JOEJOld Joe should be Goddamn thankful any fella would fuck his sorry broke ass.
JOEJ do you get embarrassed when thiel discusses your sexuality JOEJ
Posted by JOE
- July 14, 2025, 02:14:21 PMQuote from: formosan on July 14, 2025, 11:15:46 AMMy children are young adults starting out in life....I want them to do better and my future grandchildren to do better than them......I am having serious doubts this will be possible in the Canada of the future.
...in which case I think the best strategy is to have a 2nd passport formosanF Fashionista.
I think it's at least somewhat true that your children and future generations ought not rely upon one income stream or even nationality/passport for their livelihoods. They may have to move around a bit.
The world's a fast changing place where mobility has become an asset.
If you have dual citizenship, particularly with tier one nations, you or your children can use that in their favor.
I would stop short of renouncing Canadian citizenship, and finding ways to ADD on to, not SUBTRACT from what I already have. Adding a passport to an existing one could be a bonus.
There's a guy on YT who often talks about this sort of thing, Andrew Henderson.
He has this channel called the Nomad Capitalist, where he find ways to obtain passports in other countries, set up shop, businesses or residence there.
I don't always agree with him, but he offers tidbits of advice which potentially may be helpful to viewers.
As you say, Canada may no longer be an all-in-one solution. But then again, very few countries are.
Sure there may be some tier 1 nations that provide their citizens with everything with top medical, cradle to the grave benefits, stable economy/society, but those are in the distinct minority these days. They are getting far and few between. So I figger if a person can find better somewhere else, but KEEP what they already have, that's ideal.
Posted by Thiel
- July 14, 2025, 01:22:46 PMQuote from: JOE on July 13, 2025, 10:12:59 PMSouth Korea has the highest Senior Poverty rate in the OECD DKGPussycat, remember what I told you this morning after you performed oral on me about posting misleading YouTube videos.DKG
Be grateful to your aging parents that they left SK so you could have a better life in Canada DKG.
You owe so much to this country.
First of all Sweetie, it's Costa Rica that has the highest poverty rate among OECD countries, not South Korea. Anyway, if you look at South Korea's poverty rate it is skewed by so many poor seniors since they were the last rich country to implement a mandatory pension plan.
Canada on the other hand is the opposite. Most of the poverty occurring among much younger ages. Did you know Canada has the fastest growing poverty rate among OECD nations? Did you know that Sugarplum?
Did you also know that one quarter of Canadians live in poverty and that number has been rising every year for year? Did you know that too Honeybuns?
Canada also has one of the lowest GDP growth rates among OECD nations which is quickly growing Canada's army of poor people.
We're Getting Poorer
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/were-getting-poorer-gdp-per-capita-in-canada-and-oecd-2002-2060
One in four people living in poverty according to international metrics and not the false ones Ottawa uses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MdmjnwgNPQ
So, be grateful productive citizens like Mr DKG are staying. Too many of Canada's productive citizens are fleeing.
Posted by formosan
- July 14, 2025, 11:15:46 AMQuote from: DKG on July 14, 2025, 09:59:08 AMThe tragedy is that the people that are leaving are highly productive people like yourself. We are falling so far behind the US. Our future is going to be very bleak unless the Liberal Party returns to what it was in the 1990's.My children are young adults starting out in life....I want them to do better and my future grandchildren to do better than them......I am having serious doubts this will be possible in the Canada of the future.
Posted by DKG
- July 14, 2025, 09:59:08 AMQuote from: Shen Li on July 14, 2025, 01:33:54 AMSo many working age Canadians can see the writing on the wall and they are leaving Canada before the bottom falls out under their feet.The tragedy is that the people that are leaving are highly productive people like yourself. We are falling so far behind the US. Our future is going to be very bleak unless the Liberal Party returns to what it was in the 1990's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo2WwoRA31Y
Posted by JOE
- July 14, 2025, 02:10:04 AMQuote from: Shen Li on July 14, 2025, 01:00:00 AMIt must be nice being kept like that. Unfortunately I have to work and save/invest. it just will not be in Canada ever again. Good riddance to failing state.
Shen Li
Shen, I could see the advantage of having Permanent Residency in Singapore.But I don't hate Canada enough like you do to renounce my citizenship.
If I left Canada for Singapore, I'd just get PR status since it doesn't allow dual citizenship.
In that regard, a 2nd Passport in Europe would be the best option in imho.
A Singapore passport certainly has its merits, but at the same time it seems limited.
Just from my own pov, I don't think a Singapore passport QUITE has enough benefits to renounce citizenship from a tier 1 nation like Canada.
Heck even the United States allows dual citizenship. So if a person could swing it to have a passport from either country & have another passport of equal value that'd be ideal.
If it was offered to me, Singapore citizenship might interest me were in not for having to renounce another one. If Singapore offered dual, then that would seal the deal.
Posted by Shen Li
- July 14, 2025, 01:33:54 AMSo many working age Canadians can see the writing on the wall and they are leaving Canada before the bottom falls out under their feet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo2WwoRA31Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo2WwoRA31Y
Posted by Shen Li
- July 14, 2025, 01:03:10 AMQuoteWhile OAS has rules regarding residency and GIS is only for people in Canada, CPP belongs to the people who pay into it. It cannot be taken away and their are no restrictions on residency.That's what my accountant in Canada told us before we left. She said it's our money and it can't be taken away. It's not affected by Canadian status.
Posted by Shen Li
- July 14, 2025, 01:00:00 AMQuote from: Thiel on July 13, 2025, 01:19:13 PMMY honeybunch Jo Jo doesn't need to worry whether he gets a pittance from the Canadian government. I am the bread winner and I will make sure he gets an allowance to buy enough gold chocolate coins to trade with his friends at the senior's day center.It must be nice being kept like that. Unfortunately I have to work and save/invest. it just will not be in Canada ever again. Good riddance to failing state.
Posted by JOE
- July 13, 2025, 10:12:59 PMQuote from: DKG on July 13, 2025, 10:05:07 AMYes, I think I can guess who the nosy person is.
I have only known anybody who renounced Canadian citizenship. But, I have clients who live abroad. While OAS has rules regarding residency and GIS is only for people in Canada, CPP belongs to the people who pay into it. It cannot be taken away and their are no restrictions on residency.
But, like you said it is a terrible return considering what we are are forced to pay into it. I plan to retire and live in Florida in about five years. If I collect CPP at age sixty five my projected earnings are less than $900 a month. What a joke.
South Korea has the highest Senior Poverty rate in the OECD DKG
DKGBe grateful to your aging parents that they left SK so you could have a better life in Canada DKG.
You owe so much to this country.