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Posted by Herman
- July 27, 2025, 02:41:15 PMCanada is a failed state that has worked against the interests of citizens.
It's time for Alberta and Saskatchewan to form a new nation.
It's time for Alberta and Saskatchewan to form a new nation.
Posted by Herman
- July 27, 2025, 02:29:32 PMRight now, the average Albertan making $78,000 a year takes home just $44,400 after federal taxes. And that's before factoring in federal transfers, regulatory costs, and decaying economic conditions.
Canadians now spend more on taxes than they do on food, housing, and clothing combined — according to the Fraser Institute's 2024 Canadian Consumer Tax Index.
Under a restructured, independent Alberta model, you could keep $70,000 or more of that same income and we could go on to eliminate income taxes completely within 5 years.
No Ottawa grab. No bloated bureaucracy. Just a flat, local tax — and real control over your future.
Not wishful thinking — a realistic plan backed by Alberta's wealth.
Independence means more freedom, more opportunity, and keeping what's yours.
Canadians now spend more on taxes than they do on food, housing, and clothing combined — according to the Fraser Institute's 2024 Canadian Consumer Tax Index.
Under a restructured, independent Alberta model, you could keep $70,000 or more of that same income and we could go on to eliminate income taxes completely within 5 years.
No Ottawa grab. No bloated bureaucracy. Just a flat, local tax — and real control over your future.
Not wishful thinking — a realistic plan backed by Alberta's wealth.
Independence means more freedom, more opportunity, and keeping what's yours.
Posted by .
- July 25, 2025, 03:53:06 PMQuote from: DKG on July 25, 2025, 10:24:05 AMIf Carney would reverse some Trudeau era rules as well as his own consensus rule and we got a private company to build a pipeline to tidewater, support for separation would drop.A big "if", particularly given recent passage of certain bills, but no matter. While libtard support is traditionally vested in population centers. it has been my understanding that more people in the aforementioned provinces favour a release from all ties to Wellington Street (and all that entails) than the group of political masochists that don't. And do feel free to correct me if I am in error.
Moreover, the practice of lying to the public and getting fucked over for ones troubles is getting old. Especially when it is hitting the hip pocket so overtly as it is in AB and SK. I would (and have) argued that grossly obscene equalization payments in return for fuck all remuneration in infrastructure that would reward the electorate has got to be a pretty sizeable bone sticking in the craw of most people out that way. More so when so many are finding their backs to the wall. Then again I have noted that the lion's share of Canadians are too damn nice for their own good, preferring instead to go along to get along. Meaning that Alberta's and Saskatchewan's dreams of a better outcome are doomed to Fail. I believe Herman and I have had discussions where I have alluded to this. I know I have expressed skepticism about the alacrity of both provinces making good on cutting their ties to the onerous arrangement currently in play with the federal government, something which you appear to be assuring me is the case.
It's a damn shame, because if any provinces could leave the jurisdiction of Canada at large AND make a fist of it post-secession, it would be Alberta and Saskatchewan. And I will not sugarcoat it, the only way it's going to happen is if a majority of voters in that area stop pussyfooting the fuck around and start acting (and voting) in their best interests.
Otherwise this whole independence schtick is as doomed to fail as Quebec's was.
Which would suck no end of ass, but there it is. I love a good underdog fight, hell... America loves a good underdog fight. And putting ones faith in mealy mouthed fuckwads that cannot openly commit to a popular cause is NOT the way for an underdog to come out on top. As I said back at the beginning, the provinces and their peoples will go a long way to promoting themselves as a valuable inclusion to the US if they actually fight for it. Not rolling over for the representatives they voted for to sashay on in and treat them and their wishlists like doormats.
The lord helps those that help themselves. Or (as Frank Zappa once wrote), the meek shall inherit nothing.
Posted by Herman
- July 25, 2025, 03:35:17 PM
Posted by DKG
- July 25, 2025, 10:24:05 AMQuote from: . on July 25, 2025, 05:16:51 AMHow? I was under the impression they were there by popular vote, by a populace who were largely in favour of "getting the fuck out of Dodge".Herman will know more about this than I will.
Assuming all of the above were true, the only reason you could expect me to believe that it would be political suicide for them to openly support secession would be if Alberta and Saskatchewan were largely comprised of retards that would happily vote against what they had been openly clamouring for.
I'd call such behaviour illogical, but maybe it makes sense to keener intellects than mine.
Maybe those keener intellects can be found in the CBC or the Toronto Star?
My understanding is that almost all of the separatist support on the prairies is in rural areas. And it's often soft support. If Carney would reverse some Trudeau era rules as well as his own consensus rule and we got a private company to build a pipeline to tidewater, support for separation would drop.
Posted by .
- July 25, 2025, 05:16:51 AMQuote from: DKG on July 23, 2025, 09:36:39 AMEven if premiers Moe and Smith sectretly support independence for their provinces, it would be political suicide for them to endorse it.How? I was under the impression they were there by popular vote, by a populace who were largely in favour of "getting the fuck out of Dodge".
Assuming all of the above were true, the only reason you could expect me to believe that it would be political suicide for them to openly support secession would be if Alberta and Saskatchewan were largely comprised of retards that would happily vote against what they had been openly clamouring for.
I'd call such behaviour illogical, but maybe it makes sense to keener intellects than mine.
Maybe those keener intellects can be found in the CBC or the Toronto Star?
Posted by DKG
- July 23, 2025, 09:36:39 AMQuote from: . on July 23, 2025, 06:33:06 AMOf course it is. And it will for as long as your premier continues to negotiate a solution with Ottawa.Even if premiers Moe and Smith sectretly support independence for their provinces, it would be political suicide for them to endorse it.
I've told you before. AB and SK need to be independent of Canada. You know this to be true. I don't give a red raw shit how much praise you sing for the efforts of your premier, if they aren't 100% behind getting your province the fuck out of Dodge, you need representation from someone that is.
Posted by .
- July 23, 2025, 06:33:06 AMQuote from: Herman on July 21, 2025, 02:26:03 PM...the expectancy for Alberta to still contribute the same amount of money to Ottawa for personal income tax and Equalization payments remains the same.Of course it is. And it will for as long as your premier continues to negotiate a solution with Ottawa.
I've told you before. AB and SK need to be independent of Canada. You know this to be true. I don't give a red raw shit how much praise you sing for the efforts of your premier, if they aren't 100% behind getting your province the fuck out of Dodge, you need representation from someone that is.
Posted by Herman
- July 21, 2025, 02:26:03 PMOttawa has blocked new pipelines (C–69), canceled multiple oil and gas projects, capped oil and gas production, and banned ships needed to carry Alberta resources to various overseas markets (C-48; Smith, 2025). A list of the cancelled projects can be found in the article, "Billions lost in ditched resource projects," (Resource Works, 2025) where they cite the loss of $670 Billion since 2015 (Canada Action, 2024).
Yet, the expectancy for Alberta to still contribute the same amount of money to Ottawa for personal income tax and Equalization payments remains the same.
Yet, the expectancy for Alberta to still contribute the same amount of money to Ottawa for personal income tax and Equalization payments remains the same.
Posted by Brent
- July 19, 2025, 12:07:53 PMQuote from: Herman on July 18, 2025, 03:16:10 PMI do not give a shit who delivers health care as long as it is there when we need it. About on in four Canadians cannot access health care because they cannot find a doctor. Tens of thousands of Canadians are dying every year waiting for surgeries.As long as there is always public health care. I used to have a problem with private competition, but that is what all developed countries with better health care delivery than Canada have.
We spend a fortune on health care. For Christ sake fix it now and stop playing games.
Posted by Herman
- July 18, 2025, 03:16:10 PMQuote from: DKG on July 18, 2025, 10:08:02 AMWe all know a competing private health care system is inevitable to save public health care.I do not give a shit who delivers health care as long as it is there when we need it. About on in four Canadians cannot access health care because they cannot find a doctor. Tens of thousands of Canadians are dying every year waiting for surgeries.
We spend a fortune on health care. For Christ sake fix it now and stop playing games.
Posted by DKG
- July 18, 2025, 10:08:02 AMQuote from: Herman on July 17, 2025, 06:36:38 PMI do not care anymore if it is the government or private companies delivering health care so long as we can access it when we need it. We cannot do that anymore.We all know a competing private health care system is inevitable to save public health care.
Posted by Herman
- July 17, 2025, 06:41:03 PMTime to cut the free loaders loose. Imagine what we could do in Alberta and Saskatchewan with all the money that is extracted from us.
Posted by Herman
- July 17, 2025, 06:36:38 PMQuote from: DKG on July 17, 2025, 10:20:16 AMCanadian health care was already unsustainable. No province will be able to afford the current way we pay for health care in the coming years. This will speed up the demise of our health care model. That is not necessarily a bad thing.I do not care anymore if it is the government or private companies delivering health care so long as we can access it when we need it. We cannot do that anymore.
Posted by .
- July 17, 2025, 12:33:29 PMQuote from: DKG on July 17, 2025, 10:20:16 AMCanadian health care was already unsustainable. No province will be able to afford the current way we pay for health care in the coming years. This will speed up the demise of our health care model. That is not necessarily a bad thing.I'm sure some excuse will be made at some point to tax the citizenry more to prop it up. Along with the creation of more bureaucracy to ensure the money gets spent "wisely", just look at Britain's NHS.