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Posted by DKG
 - November 28, 2025, 09:12:46 PM
The federal government will do nothing to get a pipeline built. That much is clear from the advanced reports about what is in the MOU (memorandum of understanding) that Prime Minister Mark Carney and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith are expected to sign Thursday in Calgary.

Once Alberta has everything in place (constitutional, Indigenous, environmental, regulatory and financial), then the Carney government will consider giving the pipeline to their Major Projects Office (MPO).

ut aren't those preconditions the very things the MPO is to help with? Once the federal cabinet has designated a project to be in the national interest, it is supposed to be referred to the MPO, whose job it then is to smooth the regulatory burden, help negotiate with First Nations affected by the project and, if necessary, scour the world for investors.

To be fair, it is not entirely clear what the MPO is doing, other than renting first-class office space and spending more than $230 million on staff, desks, computers and boardroom tables.

There is little evidence the MPO has done anything yet except set up photo ops for Carney to make official announcements. It's probably too early for the MPO to have cleared the way of any of the 10 projects selected by the Liberals, but there is no public evidence, at least not yet, that the MPO is even trying.

The Liberals are just doing this to stave off a national unity crisis with Alberta separatists.
Posted by Herman
 - November 28, 2025, 07:36:37 PM
Mark Carney promised "unimaginable speed" but he just handed the B.C. government an unconstitutional VETO over pipelines.
Posted by Herman
 - November 28, 2025, 07:32:32 PM
Danielle Smith was booed at the UCP AGM when she tried to sell her bad federal energy deal to the UCP convention crowd.

I applaud Premier Smith's efforts to negotiate and get the best deal possible with Ottawa, but if she wants to hold the UCP together she needs to start showing some teeth with Ottawa immediately.
The prairie Independence movement isn't a knee-jerk reaction to an election.

Posted by Herman
 - November 28, 2025, 06:48:21 PM
Posted by JOE
 - November 28, 2025, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: Brent on November 28, 2025, 12:41:49 PMSteven Guilbeault resigns two days after becoming eligible for the gold-plated pension.

That guy looks like a slimeball.
Posted by Brent
 - November 28, 2025, 12:41:49 PM
Steven Guilbeault resigns two days after becoming eligible for the gold-plated pension.
Posted by Mark Carney
 - November 28, 2025, 11:51:55 AM
Quote from: DKG on November 27, 2025, 08:01:38 PMToday's announcement is a total nothing burger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmOb6e7VV30
I get a six fold increase in the carbon tax, net zero and ten to twenty billion for Brookfield Pathways Project. I am laughing all the way to the bank. And the fact a pipeline will never be built is the cherry on this sundae. :crampe:
Posted by DKG
 - November 27, 2025, 08:01:38 PM
Today's announcement is a total nothing burger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmOb6e7VV30
Posted by JOE
 - November 27, 2025, 07:54:09 PM
....interesting how many of you Conservative supporters here thought avatar_Mark Carney Carney is a Bleeding Heart Liberal.


Now many Liberals are upset with him cozying up to Alberta UCP Premier Danielle Smith.


..isn't this what you conz wanted?
Posted by DKG
 - November 27, 2025, 07:15:33 PM
That MOU signed between Carney and Danielle Smith is a photo op. There will be no million barrel a day pipeline to NW BC.
Posted by Herman
 - November 25, 2025, 07:41:12 PM
The numbers don't lie: Ottawa drains Alberta of billions every year. This is what we lose by staying in Canada. Saskatchewan too.

Independence stops the drain.

Posted by Herman
 - November 19, 2025, 12:32:49 AM
Independence means Alberta and Saskatchewan stops suffering under a broken system that wants us poor and obedient.
Posted by Herman
 - November 16, 2025, 09:55:39 PM
We have to get away from these commie bastards while we still can.
Posted by Herman
 - November 10, 2025, 10:03:19 PM
If all Canadian provinces became U.S. states, not all of them would benefit in the same way. Some would gain economically, some politically, and some socially. The provinces that would benefit the most are the ones that:
1. Currently contribute more to Canada than they receive, or
2. Are held back by federal equalization policies or resource restrictions, or
3. Would gain significantly from greater control over taxation and resource development.
So let's look at each province realistically.
1. Alberta — Would benefit the most
Why?
Alberta is a net contributor to Canada's federal system.
It has high natural resource wealth but is restricted by:
*Federal carbon taxes
*Pipeline and land use policies
*Environmental regulatory delays
Alberta consistently receives $0 in Equalization while paying billions into federal transfers.
As a U.S. State:
*Alberta keeps its own resource royalties.
*It would likely get lower taxes and higher disposable income.
*Its oil could move freely through U.S. pipelines and ports.
*Population is large enough to get 5–7 seats in the U.S. House + 2 Senators.
Result: Higher income, more representation, and freedom to develop resources.
2. Saskatchewan — The second-biggest gainer
Very similar situation to Alberta but smaller population.
Benefits:
*Major energy and agricultural exporter.
*Currently pays into Canada's equalization structure indirectly.
*Suffers from the same pipeline and federal environmental restrictions.
As a U.S. State:
*Would gain access to the U.S. agricultural subsidy system.
*Better infrastructure and export markets for oil and potash.
*Lower transportation barriers to ports.
Result: Strong economic benefit, especially rural wealth.
3. British Columbia — Gains moderately
BC already benefits from Pacific trade, but it suffers from:
*Extremely high housing costs driven partly by federal immigration policies.
*Federal restrictions affecting forestry and LNG export projects.
As a U.S. State:
*LNG exports to Asia likely expand massively.
*U.S. port rules + greater private sector housing development incentives.
*High GDP per capita already → becomes wealthier under looser federal constraints.
Result: Gains mostly through resource and trade expansion.
4. Manitoba — Would benefit, but less dramatically
Manitoba currently receives equalization payments from Ottawa.
As a U.S. State:
*Equalization would end → income might drop at first.
*But manufacturing and agriculture would gain from U.S. supply chains.
*Lower corporate tax and faster business growth would likely offset the loss.
Result: Short-term adjustment, long-term moderate benefit.
5. Ontario — Mixed, depends on region
Ontario is divided:
Region Effect
*Toronto / Ottawa corridor Loses influence, loses federal administrative privilege
*Northern & Industrial Ontario Gains from U.S. manufacturing integration
*Southern Ontario currently benefits from being the political center of Canada. That advantage disappears as a U.S. state — power is decentralized.
Result: Southern Ontario loses politically; Northern Ontario and manufacturing gain economically.
6. Quebec — Would largely not want statehood
Quebec's benefits under Canada:
*Receives the largest equalization payments in the country.
*Maintains legal, cultural, and linguistic autonomy.
*Has political veto weight federally.
As a U.S. State:
*Equalization disappears.
*Cultural protections weaken.
*Quebec becomes one state among many.
Result: Quebec loses financially and culturally under statehood.
7. Atlantic Provinces (NB, NS, PEI, NL) — Mostly lose financially
These provinces depend on federal equalization and transfer programs.
Gains:
*Potential for increased tourism and military investment.
*Newfoundland offshore oil would grow under U.S. energy rules.
Losses:
*Guaranteed equalization revenue disappears.
Result: Slight economic growth long-term, but short-term revenue decline.
Summary of Who Benefits Most
Province Benefit Level Reason
Alberta ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Huge benefit Keeps resource wealth, removes federal constraints
Saskatchewan ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Resource + agriculture integration with U.S.
British Columbia ⭐⭐⭐ LNG + trade benefits
Manitoba ⭐⭐ Gains long-term, loses equalization short-term
Ontario (North/Industrial) ⭐⭐⭐ Gains economically
Ontario (Toronto/Ottawa) ⭐ Loses political dominance
Quebec ❌ Loses equalization + political leverage
Atlantic Provinces ❌ / ⭐ Lose equalization but gain some sector benefits
Conclusion
The big winners under statehood would be:
Alberta
Saskatchewan
British Columbia
Northern / Industrial Ontario
The losers would be:
Quebec
Atlantic Canada
Political elite and bureaucracy in Toronto and Ottawa (chatgpt)
Posted by Brent
 - November 10, 2025, 11:46:05 AM
The Alberta Court of Appeal has set down the week of Feb. 23 to hear the court challenge to the No More Pipelines Law, officially called the Impact Assessment Act.

This law stops provinces like Alberta, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland and Labrador from developing resources to create jobs for people in their provinces.

In a previous court challenge, the Supreme Court ruled the legislation was unconstitutional. So Ottawa made some amendments. But this court challenge is arguing that Ottawa didn't fix the old problems that made it unconstitutional to begin with.

Let's hope the court challenge of Liberal tyranny is successful.