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Posted by formosan
 - Today at 04:05:06 PM
The Minnesota governor and the mayor of Minneapolis should known this since their party created the law.

1. Deadly force defined. For the purposes of this section, "deadly force" means force which the actor uses with the purpose of causing, or which the actor should reasonably know creates a substantial risk of causing, death or great bodily harm. The intentional discharge of a firearm, other than a firearm loaded with less lethal munitions and used by a peace officer within the scope of official duties, in the direction of another person, or at a vehicle in which another person is believed to be, constitutes deadly force. "Less lethal munitions" means projectiles which are designed to stun, temporarily incapacitate, or cause temporary discomfort to a person. "Peace officer" has the meaning given in section 626.84, subdivision 1.

Subd. 1a. Legislative intent. The legislature hereby finds and declares the following:

(1) that the authority to use deadly force, conferred on peace officers by this section, is a critical responsibility that shall be exercised judiciously and with respect for human rights and dignity and for the sanctity of every human life. The legislature further finds and declares that every person has a right to be free from excessive use of force by officers acting under color of law;

(2) as set forth below, it is the intent of the legislature that peace officers use deadly force only when necessary in defense of human life or to prevent great bodily harm. In determining whether deadly force is necessary, officers shall evaluate each situation in light of the particular circumstances of each case;

(3) that the decision by a peace officer to use deadly force shall be evaluated from the perspective of a reasonable officer in the same situation, based on the totality of the circumstances known to or perceived by the officer at the time, rather than with the benefit of hindsight, and that the totality of the circumstances shall account for occasions when officers may be forced to make quick judgments about using deadly force; and

(4) that peace officers should exercise special care when interacting with individuals with known physical, mental health, developmental, or intellectual disabilities as an individual's disability may affect the individual's ability to understand or comply with commands from peace officers.

Subd. 2. Use of deadly force. (a) Notwithstanding the provisions of section 609.06 or 609.065, the use of deadly force by a peace officer in the line of duty is justified only if an objectively reasonable officer would believe, based on the totality of the circumstances known to the officer at the time and without the benefit of hindsight, that such force is necessary:

(1) to protect the peace officer or another from death or great bodily harm, provided that the threat:


(i) can be articulated with specificity;

(ii) is reasonably likely to occur absent action by the law enforcement officer; and

(iii) must be addressed through the use of deadly force without unreasonable delay; or

(2) to effect the arrest or capture, or prevent the escape, of a person whom the peace officer knows or has reasonable grounds to believe has committed or attempted to commit a felony and the officer reasonably believes that the person will cause death or great bodily harm to another person under the threat criteria in clause (1), items (i) to (iii), unless immediately apprehended.
Posted by formosan
 - Today at 03:51:35 PM
If anybody hasn't seen this yet, this is video of what the Immigration officer saw before he fired his gun to protect himself and others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiA6LwgYf0Y
Posted by Brent
 - Today at 12:32:43 PM
Quote from: formosan on January 10, 2026, 04:39:04 PMAn elected lawmaker should not attempt to prejudice an investigation before it begins.
But, he saw one video. Due process is no longer necessary.
Posted by Herman
 - January 10, 2026, 07:35:20 PM
Posted by Herman
 - January 10, 2026, 07:23:14 PM
Posted by Herman
 - January 10, 2026, 07:22:37 PM
Posted by Herman
 - January 10, 2026, 07:17:52 PM
Posted by Herman
 - January 10, 2026, 07:04:09 PM
The angry dike takes the vehicle, lunges the vehicle, drives through after they stopped her. And she dies because they defend themselves, and people want to know whether or not it's justified. Yes, it's justified, it is absolutely justified.
Posted by Herman
 - January 10, 2026, 07:01:31 PM
What it comes down to is did Jonathan Ross follow procedures. And it appears he did.

ICE agents have been targeted in more than 100 vehicle-ramming incidents across the nation in recent weeks, including three incidents Kristi Noem alleged had occurred in Minneapolis on Wednesday.

The officer involved in the shooting, according to Noem, was struck and dragged in June by a vehicle driven by an "anti-ICE rioter."
Posted by Biggie Smiles
 - January 10, 2026, 04:44:32 PM
Quote from: formosan on January 10, 2026, 04:39:04 PMAn elected lawmaker should not attempt to prejudice an investigation before it begins.
let the dumbass go on national television and give the defense (god forbid there would have to be one) a rock solid appeal (god forbid this guy gets convicted) because every jury in the country can now be considered tainted

these people are so stupid they cannot even see their own nose past their own face
Posted by formosan
 - January 10, 2026, 04:39:04 PM
Quote from: Brent on January 10, 2026, 12:07:58 PMWatch Will Cain eviscerate Massachusettes Democratic congressman Seth Moulton who because he saw one video angle has delivered a verdict of guilt to an ICE agent.

And he has the nerve to talk about due process.

From 6:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO51_cPzHdo
An elected lawmaker should not attempt to prejudice an investigation before it begins.
Posted by Lokmar
 - January 10, 2026, 03:01:54 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 10, 2026, 02:53:32 PMand notice how his brain improved so did his political leaning?

Absolutely! Its supernatural almost. I find it hard to believe he got where he is today without some kind of heavy duty stem cell therapy or some other thing I havent heard of.
Posted by Biggie Smiles
 - January 10, 2026, 02:53:32 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on January 10, 2026, 02:50:32 PMI was the same on him and for good reason. They hid how fucked up he was from the voting public to get him in office. I still say they shot him full of stem cells from a CONservative. democRATs dont really like him much now.

I love seeing democRAT plans blow up in their faces like they're Wile E Coyote!  :crampe:
and notice how his brain improved so did his political leaning?
Posted by Biggie Smiles
 - January 10, 2026, 02:52:54 PM
You know, I gotta tip my own hat and the hats of all the other conservatives on this board who are in agreement that Fettermen is deserving of both praise and apology for his performance

why?

Because as conservatives we are proving we are better people than the lowlife vermin on the left. We are admitting when we are wrong and making amends. That takes character!

something the democrat scum lack

John Roberts in a lot of ways is our John Fetterman... he sides with the democrats more often than any of us one the right would like.. and does a single democrat vermin cockroach give him even the slightest bit of praise for it?


God I hate these people. I'm so happy I am not personal friends with a single one of them. I don't give a shit if you saved my life once upon a time. You subscribe to that party and that ideology you are dead to me.
Posted by Lokmar
 - January 10, 2026, 02:50:32 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 10, 2026, 02:40:08 PMBro -- Is John Fettermen an ace or what? The only democrat I can tip my hat too and I have to wonder why he even bothers calling himself a democrat at all

fuck I gave that guy a lot of grief when he first won and he has consistently proved me wrong time and time again.

I was the same on him and for good reason. They hid how fucked up he was from the voting public to get him in office. I still say they shot him full of stem cells from a CONservative. democRATs dont really like him much now.

I love seeing democRAT plans blow up in their faces like they're Wile E Coyote!  :crampe: