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Posted by Shen Li
 - January 12, 2026, 11:36:12 PM
Quote from: Dove on January 12, 2026, 02:26:03 PMI voted for democrats up until Obama.

 When I vote I pay attention. I regretted my Obama vote in 2008 within his first term.

 And when I rightfully criticized the terrible shit he was doing, and his gross smugness....other Obama voters would dog pile me.

 At first it shocked me, I wasnt prepared for that. I was niave and believed people actually cared. I learned fast it was about power and control.

 And ive been a right wing extremist ever since.

 Im used to not having the popular opinion in the room and ill stand on my convictions even at the threat of harm. Im not someone to be bullied. Especially when it comes to the welfare and prosperity and dignity of the USA.

 All this marxist garbage started a long time ago and its really come into itself now. It's a horrifying shame.

 I notice all the programming now. All the movies that painted the USA as the bad guys. Dances with Wolves. Full Metal jackassasset. The list is long. American History X where they took very normal republican stances on immigration and made it into nazi beliefs blatantly. Have you seen that film? Omg.

 Shows. News. Universities. People have been indoctrinated into hating their own country.


 I saw a video on Iran, and in the comments there were American woman saying "You guys don't want the US authoritarian government "helping" you" and openly stating that "we are just as oppressed". They took a comment section on a video talking about Iranians fighting for basic freedoms...and made it about themselves and how oppressed they are here in the USA.

 And Iranians who came here were telling them "you dont know how great you have it. You have everything here. Youre ungrateful. This is the best country in the world" and these brainwashed bitches doubled down.

 It was so embarrassing, and rage inducing. I had to put my phone down. How fucking spoiled, self absorbed and narcissistic can someone be...to shameless claim that here in the US we are "just as oppressed" and the people fighting in Iran? The Persian people.

 It made me almost vomit. That's how stupid and spoiled they are. No empathy. No shame. No humility. No gratitude. They'll drive us all off a cliff before they realize how destructive and stupid they are.

 Its embarrassing to me, as an American woman. I knew it was bad but lately its even worse than I thought it was.

 I have tried for many years to have civil discourse with them but they dont want civil discourse. They dont care. They just hate us. They'd rather see us dead than have any sort of peace.

 You'd think middle aged women would want a safer and more prosperous country for their children to raise their grandchildren in. Thats what I want. I want my daughters to be able to have all the opportunities being American gives them and to be able to raise their own families in a safe and prosperous country that preserves their liberties and constitutional rights.

 That shouldnt be some wild extremist desire to have but alas.
I would've voted for Obama over McCain. I thought Obama would be the end of racialized politics. Boy, was I wrong. He fanned the flames and embers of racial division.
Posted by Frood
 - January 12, 2026, 10:40:35 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 12, 2026, 08:02:19 PMNo of course not. But in many instances he did assure them if they bankrupted themselves putting his kids through college they would become US citizens... that has happened more times than anyone is willing to admit to

it's all a racket -- the judges, the attorneys, the politicians that benefit -- they are all eating off the same plate of misery and despair that continue to foster and fuel their greed.

and what I am advocating for is to strip ALL OF THEM of such rich rewards at the expense of others.

Because the real victims in this travesty of justice? The decent morally upright migrants who happen to be illegal and the average US citizen


Happen to be illegal? They will always be crims until they serve their time and atone for their criminality.

Don't make excuses for crims.
Posted by DKG
 - January 12, 2026, 10:02:06 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on January 12, 2026, 11:25:50 AMYou're absolutely correct, its happening today, but when the libs are in charge again, they'll flood the country with double the amount of illegals.
They have not learned their lesson from Biden's disastrous presidency.
Posted by Herman
 - January 12, 2026, 09:43:16 PM
Posted by Herman
 - January 12, 2026, 09:34:32 PM
Posted by Herman
 - January 12, 2026, 09:23:09 PM
Posted by Herman
 - January 12, 2026, 09:22:26 PM
Posted by Herman
 - January 12, 2026, 08:50:22 PM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 11, 2026, 10:48:51 PMGood thread, people.  My take aways:

Biggie reads like a bleeding heart pussy when he makes the case for special dispensations for hard working Home Depot beaners.

No. Illegal is illegal is illegal. The only Due Process anyone in this country illegally is entitled to, by statute, is to be apprehended, sequestered and returned to their countries of origin.  Period.

This Administration is bending over backwards to let those illegals who truly do want to be part of America know that they have to self deport to be put on a list to return LEGALLY. If they wait until ICE finds them, they will never be allowed to return.
Winner winner chicken dinner.
Posted by Biggie Smiles
 - January 12, 2026, 08:15:32 PM
Essentially Renee Goof gave her life to run cover for this type of shit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oZRBxt6e_s
Posted by Reggie Essent
 - January 12, 2026, 08:14:17 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 12, 2026, 08:02:19 PMNo of course not. But in many instances he did assure them if they bankrupted themselves putting his kids through college they would become US citizens... that has happened more times than anyone is willing to admit to

it's all a racket -- the judges, the attorneys, the politicians that benefit -- they are all eating off the same plate of misery and despair that continue to foster and fuel their greed.

and what I am advocating for is to strip ALL OF THEM of such rich rewards at the expense of others.

Because the real victims in this travesty of justice? The decent morally upright migrants who happen to be illegal and the average US citizen

No one just "happens" to be an illegal alien, especially when talking about folks you are talking about. People that have been here for years and years and have built their lives here and contributed to their communities ... except that pesky immigration status thingie.

For the life of me, I cannot grasp why such a basically good person would remain as an illegal for decades sometimes unless there is some benefit for them.  You don't "just happen" to build a life in a community and remain an illegal foreign national for decades.

I'll take the bad optics for a few years until we get this all straightened out.
Posted by Biggie Smiles
 - January 12, 2026, 08:02:19 PM
Quote from: Frood on January 12, 2026, 07:56:31 PMDid the scum attorney smuggle them into the US against their will and physically prevent them from trying to return to their home nations?

If so... perhaps some leniency might apply.
No of course not. But in many instances he did assure them if they bankrupted themselves putting his kids through college they would become US citizens... that has happened more times than anyone is willing to admit to

it's all a racket -- the judges, the attorneys, the politicians that benefit -- they are all eating off the same plate of misery and despair that continue to foster and fuel their greed.

and what I am advocating for is to strip ALL OF THEM of such rich rewards at the expense of others.

Because the real victims in this travesty of justice? The decent morally upright migrants who happen to be illegal and the average US citizen
Posted by Frood
 - January 12, 2026, 07:56:31 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 12, 2026, 05:56:21 PMI'm all for the punishment bro -- fines.. community service etc.

Especially if they can demonstrate they did try the legal route and were swindled by some scum attorney -- in that circumstance not even the fines would be a fare form of justice as they themselves are the biggest victim.

Did the scum attorney smuggle them into the US against their will and physically prevent them from trying to return to their home nations?

If so... perhaps some leniency might apply.
Posted by Biggie Smiles
 - January 12, 2026, 07:37:30 PM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 12, 2026, 07:19:41 PMI touched on this point before. If you have an illegal that has been here for 15-20+ years, you have to ask yourself WHY they have been here that long and taken no steps to naturalize.

I understand your point about the optics of removing people that have been here for decades and woven themselves in to the fabric of our local communities ... but again, you have to ask yourselves why they have been here so long and remained illegal.

Clearly there is some kind of incentive structure that drives this phenomenon that has to be unravelled and corrected. Whether it's scamming from our social safety net programs, free health care at the nearest emergency room, free education for their kids or simply dodging taxation, there is obviously some benefit that long term illegals are taking advantage of by remaining illegal.

These incentives must be identified and removed.  In the meantime, yes the optics will look bad when Juan the friendly gardener gets swept up in an ICE raid or the Tamale Lady who has sold tamales on the same street corner for 20 years gets deported, but by now I'm quite sure these kinds of people have all heard that if they self-deport they can get on the list to return legally - and even get a few grand to help them through.




Not always my friend. I've personally seen illegals get fleeched by scumbag attorneys looking to prey upon the uninformed and vulnerable

and again, if it is determined that they have lived off the public dime for any amount of time lasting longer than a your average unemployment timespan they're out.

As Lokmar pointed out and I am in full agreement with, this would be done on a case by case basis as I believe every case is unique and has it's own physiology to investigate
Posted by Reggie Essent
 - January 12, 2026, 07:19:41 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 12, 2026, 12:39:59 PMSo when we see a guy here for 15 years who has NEVER broken a law. NEVER availed himself of public assistance. Contributed positively to our economy in the form of hard labor, and in some instances even contributed to a social safety net he can never benefit from we cannot provision for him an expedited path to legal citizenship while holding him accountable for his past infraction in the form of a fine?  that's not possible for a few thousand people at most?



I touched on this point before. If you have an illegal that has been here for 15-20+ years, you have to ask yourself WHY they have been here that long and taken no steps to naturalize.

I understand your point about the optics of removing people that have been here for decades and woven themselves in to the fabric of our local communities ... but again, you have to ask yourselves why they have been here so long and remained illegal.

Clearly there is some kind of incentive structure that drives this phenomenon that has to be unravelled and corrected. Whether it's scamming from our social safety net programs, free health care at the nearest emergency room, free education for their kids or simply dodging taxation, there is obviously some benefit that long term illegals are taking advantage of by remaining illegal.

These incentives must be identified and removed.  In the meantime, yes the optics will look bad when Juan the friendly gardener gets swept up in an ICE raid or the Tamale Lady who has sold tamales on the same street corner for 20 years gets deported, but by now I'm quite sure these kinds of people have all heard that if they self-deport they can get on the list to return legally - and even get a few grand to help them through.



Posted by Lokmar
 - January 12, 2026, 07:02:19 PM
Westboro Baptist needs to protest this stupid whores funeral with "GOD HATES FAGS" signs!